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  • Fiasco West
    MVP
    • Oct 2008
    • 2820

    #16
    Re: Are we headed for...

    We'll see what happens to Portland when all those young players want their big pay check.

    As for the Cavs and Lebron...we'll see if he's even on the Cavs and i'd wait until he actually leads his team to a chip before talking about a potential dynasty.

    28 other teams could make huge moves from now to then...I mean no one had the Celtics winning 2007/08 in 2006.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #17
      Re: Are we headed for...

      There's always that one person who refuses to read or comprehend anything mentioned.

      The last 2 posters(Fiasco,PrettyT)I couldn't agree with more and that was my original point I was trying to make. There's too many things to take into consideration to consider either of these two potential dynasties.
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      • OSUFan_88
        Outback Jesus
        • Jul 2004
        • 25642

        #18
        Re: Are we headed for...

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        Also gotta take into account the current economy since it seems that it's having a significant impact on Owners and their pocketbooks.
        Both Gilbert and Allen are not going to be in any financial problems any time in the foreseeable future.

        As to the point, I'm fully aware that

        A)LeBron could leave

        B)Kobe could keep playing at a high level for 4 years

        C)Oden keeps on channeling his inner Bowie.

        But, right now, it seems that those two teams have the brightest future, IN MY OPINION.

        Now, maybe dynasty is too strong of a word to use, but I would say at some point in the next 3 years, those two teams will meet in the finals.
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        • Streets
          Supreme
          • Aug 2004
          • 5787

          #19
          Re: Are we headed for...

          I'll definitely give you Cleveland, assuming that LeBron stays. I think that there is no superstar in the league that needs less around him to be successful. LeBron has a good team, but not nearly as good as good as Kobe's Lakers. And he doesn't have a system in place as good as Timmy's Spurs.

          LeBron just needs one great or a couple good pieces to make the Cavs a legit force for years.

          Portland however has a lot of nice young pieces and some cap room but that's because their young pieces are on rookie contracts I believe. Once they're all demanding huge contracts, Portland will no longer be a "buyer" and your stuck with what you have. While they will mature into a nice team, I don't see dynasty in their future. They still play in the West. I see them reaching Jazz/Hornets/Mavs level of success at most.

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          • Rocky
            All Star
            • Jul 2002
            • 6896

            #20
            Re: Are we headed for...

            Originally posted by Fiasco West
            We'll see what happens to Portland when all those young players want their big pay check.

            As for the Cavs and Lebron...we'll see if he's even on the Cavs and i'd wait until he actually leads his team to a chip before talking about a potential dynasty.

            28 other teams could make huge moves from now to then...I mean no one had the Celtics winning 2007/08 in 2006.
            Yeah, I don't see Blazers going out a getting a big named veteran or star player. They need to keep their Big 3 of Roy, Aldridge, and Oden intact and then fill the gaps with solid role players. Some of that talent they got, they won't keep.

            I don't see a dynasty with this current Cavs team. They are dangerous, but I said all along that they needed to take the pain of getting young talent to grow with Lebron....even if that meant not being a contender for a couple of years. They got Mo Williams, which you already see made a huge difference. They just need to get or develop a few quality big men. It's too late to try to build a dynasty around Z and Ben Wallace.
            "Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."
            -Rocky Balboa

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            • Cebby
              Banned
              • Apr 2005
              • 22327

              #21
              Re: Are we headed for...

              In the East:

              1. If Lebron leaves, Cleveland is dead

              2. If Cleveland makes a stupid free agent move the next two years, they could be supremely ****ed (Odom and pretty much every 76ers move with AI are the best examples of this off the top of my head).

              3. Even if Cleveland makes the right moves, New York is still there. Regardless of what Cleveland does, if NY gets Bosh, Wade, and another great player, it may not be over, but it'll be very tough.

              West:

              1. The Lakers are significantly better than Portland now, with a single person over the age of 30. Barring an ego problem, they'll be the top dog in the West for 5 more years. The Lakers are better at 4/5 positions on the floor and almost the entire bench, and nobody is really "old"

              2. Portland has proven nothing. OMG GREG ODEN!!!! Yeah, no. The 9/7/1 wasn't the hype I signed up for.

              3. The amazing Portland team will have to actually keep its team together, which will be much more difficult than the Lakers. I don't see Pau or Odom as egos, and Bynum should be ready to be the man at the same time Kobe is relinquishing it. Roy, Aldridge, Fernandez, Outlaw, and Oden are all within three years of each other. All will probably think they're the **** when it comes to contract negotiations.

              Fact is, that core is breaking up, and there won't be the money to sign outside talent.

              Did people learn nothing from the Bulls, Nuggets, Rockets, and even the Baron Davis/Elton Brand dynasties from the last 2-3 years?

              The fact is, it's more likely that Lebron, Wade, and Bosh take the league minimum to play in Washington in 2010 than it is that Portland and Cleveland both become dynasties next year.

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              • Kashanova
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2003
                • 12695

                #22
                Re: Are we headed for...

                Lebron is going to be a Knick so i dont see CAvs being a dynasty with out him.

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #23
                  Re: Are we headed for...

                  Gonna be some disappointed Knicks Fans if Lebron doesn't end up in a Knicks jersey.
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                  • ZB9
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 18387

                    #24
                    Re: Are we headed for...

                    why would the Blazers and Cavs "be the ONLY two buyers in a sellers market"? That doesnt make sense

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                    • SpacemanSpiff
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 1279

                      #25
                      Re: Are we headed for...

                      I can see the argument for the Cavs having dynasty potential if LeBron stays but to crown the Blazers as a future dynasty is silly.
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                      • OSUFan_88
                        Outback Jesus
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 25642

                        #26
                        Re: Are we headed for...

                        Originally posted by ZB9
                        why would the Blazers and Cavs "be the ONLY two buyers in a sellers market"? That doesnt make sense
                        Because at this point, not many owners are going to want to add salary with the cap getting ready to drop.

                        And yes, there are going to be a lot of disappointed Knick fans if they think LeBron will be in NYC in 2010.
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                        • ZB9
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 18387

                          #27
                          Re: Are we headed for...

                          Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                          Because at this point, not many owners are going to want to add salary with the cap getting ready to drop.

                          And yes, there are going to be a lot of disappointed Knick fans if they think LeBron will be in NYC in 2010.
                          That is true. I agree that Portland and Cleveland are going to be in good shape and will be aggressive buyers, and opportunistic with the situation...but I dont think they will be the ONLY buyers in the league. I bet there are more teams that will be aggressive buyers (although your right imo, certainly not many teams)
                          Last edited by ZB9; 02-22-2009, 11:49 AM.

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                          • OSUFan_88
                            Outback Jesus
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 25642

                            #28
                            Re: Are we headed for...

                            Originally posted by ZB9
                            That is true. I agree that Portland and Cleveland are going to be in good shape and will be aggressive buyers, and opportunistic with the situation...but I dont think they will be the ONLY buyers in the league. I bet there are more teams that will be aggressive buyers (although your right imo, certainly not many teams)
                            I could see a few owners, especially Presti and others way below the Cap, making some moves, but not many over the cap are going to make moves unless it's to drop cap.
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                            • KG
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                              • Sep 2005
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                              #29
                              Re: Are we headed for...

                              Portland isn't doing anything out West until the Spurs & Lakers are done. Aldridge and Roy are going to have their contracts expire in '10. They will both most likely get max deals so Portland will have to choose which one to keep because you're gonna have Oden coming up shortly after that too.
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                              • tehova
                                b**-r*y
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 3694

                                #30
                                Re: Are we headed for...

                                sooo we just gone act like the grizzlies and the thunder don't have money under the cap, young cores and multiple first round picks.

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