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  • dieselboy
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    • Dec 2002
    • 18040

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    The 2003 All-Overated Team

    "Most Overrated Guarantee: Atlanta Hawks
    OK, that was low-hanging fruit, but I figured I'd start with something we can all agree on before I got to the controversial stuff.

    Most Overrated All-Star: Antoine Walker
    He's a great passer and a tough defender, and a deadly force in transition. But between all the bricks and all the turnovers, he's also an unrivaled empty-trip machine. Walker ran out of gas in the second half and his numbers crashed, but even before that it was a sad commentary on the Eastern Conference that a guy who gets 20 points on 39 percent shooting was selected as one of its 12 best players.

    Most Overrated Free Agent-To-Be: Michael Olowokandi
    It's been suggested all year that somebody might want to give him a maximum contract this summer. You can't be serious. The guy had one good month against a bunch of bad teams in March 2002 and still wants to get paid like a perennial All-Star for it, despite doing nothing up to that point and snoozing through 12 months since. In addition to his usual indifferent defense, he shot a career-low 42.7 percent in 2002-03, and nearly led the team at 2.7 turnovers a game despite ranking just fifth in scoring. Basically, he's Joe Barry Carroll without the offense.

    Most Overrated Announcer: Bill Walton
    Sunday's Blazers-Lakers game was a typical effort; if you weren't watching the score you would have thought L.A. was up by 25 from the way Walton was gushing about the Lakers. I can't wait to hear him cheer on his favorite team through the playoffs. Seriously, can anyone figure out how, with a nation of 250 million people to choose from, they ended up with this guy as the lead analyst on national telecasts?

    Most Overrated Coach: Rudy Tomjanovich
    Tomjanovich just took a leave from the team in order to battle bladder cancer, so you might think I'm a horrible person for saying this, but the cruel truth is that no team was out to lunch on more nights this year than the Rockets, and that was the main reason a team with Steve Francis and Yao Ming goes into the final week needing to play well just to stay above .500. The press has given Rudy a free pass since he won back-to-back titles in the mid-90s, but his unique strategy of freezing out the 7-foot-5 guy is one of many reasons to think his work has slipped since then.

    Most Overrated MVP Vote: Jason Kidd in 2002
    When the results come in for 2003, think about this: Kidd had a better year in nearly every category than he did in 2001-02, and may again get the top seed in the East for the Nets even though his team traded two starters for the remnants of Dikembe Mutombo. In other words, there is absolutely no question that he was a more valuable player this year than he was a year ago, and yet, because he isn't The Big Story anymore, he's not going to be within shouting distance of the top after finishing a close second in 2002. Am I the only one who finds this troubling?

    Most Overrated Rising Star: Darius Miles
    Here's an idea: Can we hold off on putting the guy on magazine covers until he gets his scoring average in double figures? Would that be too hard? Miles has been hurt by knee problems and the lack of competent coaching by the Clippers and Cavs, but he's also victimized himself by practicing the fists-to-head move after his rare baskets more than he practices his dreadful jump shot. He was a better player three years ago.

    Most Overrated Healthy Coach: Doug Collins
    All the focus on Michael Jordan and Kwame Brown took the focus off Collins' daily juggling act with the lineup and his near-total mistrust of any player under the age of 30. Playing Kwame Brown didn't cost them the playoffs; but giving so many minutes to veteran dead wood like Bryon Russell and Charles Oakley might have.

    Most Overrated Defender: Gary Payton
    A subtle word of advice for the electorate: Stop voting Payton for the All-Defense team. Please. Well, I can always hope that the fact that his arrival in Milwaukee didn't improve their defense one bit will give the voters some ideas. Payton is tough and physical but can't stay in front of quick guards anymore, and the last two years his reputation has earned him completely undeserved All-Defense selections at the expense of guys like Eric Snow.

    Most Overrated MVP Candidate: Ben Wallace
    Look, I love the guy's defense too, but offensively he makes his team play 4-on-5 every night, so it's a bit rich to suggest that he deserves MVP. Besides, if his team was in the West and heading into the postseason as the No. 6 or No. 7 seed, nobody would care what he's done. Just ask Utah.

    Most Overrated Trendy Finals Pick: New Orleans
    Can anyone figure out why such an ordinary team keeps getting props as a contender? Thankfully, this will be put to rest in 2004 when Charlotte enters the league and kicks the Hornets to the West, but given their lack of a superstar, paper-thin bench and injury-prone key players, it's amazing this team is even in the playoffs, much less marching through them."

    (Articles in quotes from sports illustrated sports column by John Hollinger)

    I agree with quite a few of these. I'll start from the top:
    -The Hawks are such a disappointment this year. What happened? They need to make some trades a re-assemble. Didn't they promise all season ticket holders full refund if they dont make they playoffs?

    -I don't like Antoine Walkers game at all. His first 2 years in the league, he played PF, got 9.5 boards per game, and shot a little over 200 3's a year. While having a good scoring average, and his FG% better than recent years. Now, he puts up 600 3's a year, and this year grabbed only 7.2 boards. Sure he was hurt, but the only thing he has really improved on, is his assists, but with that, his turnovers have gone up too. When your 6'9, you shouldn't be shooting 39%. And whats with the not rebounding thing? As for playing Hts and Wts, he is the same size as BEN WALLACE, and they both in the East, and look what he can do on defense.

    -As for the Kandi Man, I thought about this last off-season, when his agent was saying he would look for the maximum. What??? He has been in the league for 5 years, and hasn't shown much improvement at all. He is shooting 43% for his career....I don't know what people see in this guy. Rumor is, hes headed for Miami.

    -Well for Ol' Bill....I think there is a thread bashing his announcing skills already.

    -As for Rudy, I didn't see too many Rocket games...but I understand Ming was tired, because he had been playing basketball for like 2 years straight.

    -Kidd's #'s have improved, but last year he led a team no one had heard of to the Finals. Impressive still.

    -Darius Miles has never really impressed me, and this year just underlined the fact that he hasn't lived up to the hype. Sure he is young, 21, but the 3rd year in the league for High School players, is usually the break out year. And this season, was Miles worst season to date. His minutes are up, but his great FG% of the 2 previous years is down to 41%. The kid still doesn't kno how to shoot a FT or a 3PT....but he does play for the Cavs.

    -Doug Collins should of stuck with commentating...thats all i can say.

    -GP isn't close to the defensive player he was in the 90's, but you gotta love Gary.

    -Ben Wallace shouldn't even be considered for this award. But at this rate, DPY, every season.

    -I havent heard much about the Hornets to win the East....but its gonna be funny to see how a REAL east team does in the west. I mean, there is always sayings like "Oh, well they are only in the playoffs because they are in the East" or "Well if Utah or Minnesota was in the East, they would be a # BLANK seed..."

    What you guys think?
  • sense
    Pro
    • Dec 2002
    • 591

    #2
    Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

    Are these your opinions or they just based on what the guy in the article said???????
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    • sense
      Pro
      • Dec 2002
      • 591

      #3
      Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

      Are these your opinions or they just based on what the guy in the article said???????
      OS Madden league (360) Giants: 0-0
      Gamertag: YoungPaiMei

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      • dieselboy
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        • Dec 2002
        • 18040

        #4
        Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

        I said at the top I agree wit a lot of it. And im not stating the same stuff or reasoning behind them...so they would be my ideas.

        And i didnt agree wit all. The hornets, Rudy, etc.

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        • dieselboy
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          • Dec 2002
          • 18040

          #5
          Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

          I said at the top I agree wit a lot of it. And im not stating the same stuff or reasoning behind them...so they would be my ideas.

          And i didnt agree wit all. The hornets, Rudy, etc.

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          • 3rdAnswer
            Regular Cat Records®
            • Sep 2002
            • 10845

            #6
            Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

            You are wrong about New Orleans. Baron Davis is a potent All-Star, as well as Jamal Mashburn.

            They don't have a paper-thin bench. Thy have one of the deepest benches in the East, as a matter of fact.
            -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
            www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
            New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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            • 3rdAnswer
              Regular Cat Records®
              • Sep 2002
              • 10845

              #7
              Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

              You are wrong about New Orleans. Baron Davis is a potent All-Star, as well as Jamal Mashburn.

              They don't have a paper-thin bench. Thy have one of the deepest benches in the East, as a matter of fact.
              -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
              www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
              New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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              • bigeastbumrush
                My Momma's Son
                • Feb 2003
                • 19245

                #8
                Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

                That`s not a fair assessment of what Ben Wallace brings to the table night in and night out!

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                • bigeastbumrush
                  My Momma's Son
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 19245

                  #9
                  Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

                  That`s not a fair assessment of what Ben Wallace brings to the table night in and night out!

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                  • killspeed52
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 60

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                    Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

                    I saw that in SI as well, and thought it was an interesting read. You're always going to tick someone off if you're willing to step out and take a stance. I think he's on target with most of his jabs.

                    Walker: I tend to agree. The Celtics really need Walker to rediscover his inside game and bring it every night. They already have more than enough perimeter shooting. The "39% shooting" tag is a little misleading though, because of all the 3s he takes and makes. His adjusted FG% is .450, which isn't nearly as bad. Adjusted FG% isn't a perfect stat, but it's more accurate for perimeter shooters than just looking at regular FG%. However, because of his reluctance to pound it inside, he gets to the line an embarassingly low number of times for a star player.

                    Olowokandi: I'm not even sure I'd give Olowokandi my mid-level exception, let alone the max. To suggest that he deserves or will get a max deal is just ludicrous, though I'm not sure I've seen many people seriously entertaining that idea. Still, if the Nuggets fail to get Gilbert Arenas and everyone else at the top of their free-agent wishlist, they may just be dumb enough to give Olowokandi something close to the max.

                    Walton: I find myself agreeing with nearly everything the critics say about Walton, yet I still enjoy watching his games because of his genuine love for the game and because he's just plain funny to listen to and great to make fun of.

                    Miles: Easy target. Does anyone, I mean anyone, consider this guy a rising star anymore?

                    Collins: Another easy target, and even more misguided. Afraid to go after Jordan, who is far more responsible for what happened in Washington this year, he jumps on Doug Collins.

                    Wallace: I like Ben Wallace too, but where is Hollinger wrong here? A one-way player shouldn't be considered for MVP of the league. He's a great one-way player, but he is a liability on the offensive end. Nobody's disrespecting him, he just doesn't deserve to be league MVP. Hollinger is completely right about the East/West thing. If the Pistons or any other top East team were in the West, they'd be in the 7 or 8 spot and totally ignored.

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                    • killspeed52
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 60

                      #11
                      Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

                      I saw that in SI as well, and thought it was an interesting read. You're always going to tick someone off if you're willing to step out and take a stance. I think he's on target with most of his jabs.

                      Walker: I tend to agree. The Celtics really need Walker to rediscover his inside game and bring it every night. They already have more than enough perimeter shooting. The "39% shooting" tag is a little misleading though, because of all the 3s he takes and makes. His adjusted FG% is .450, which isn't nearly as bad. Adjusted FG% isn't a perfect stat, but it's more accurate for perimeter shooters than just looking at regular FG%. However, because of his reluctance to pound it inside, he gets to the line an embarassingly low number of times for a star player.

                      Olowokandi: I'm not even sure I'd give Olowokandi my mid-level exception, let alone the max. To suggest that he deserves or will get a max deal is just ludicrous, though I'm not sure I've seen many people seriously entertaining that idea. Still, if the Nuggets fail to get Gilbert Arenas and everyone else at the top of their free-agent wishlist, they may just be dumb enough to give Olowokandi something close to the max.

                      Walton: I find myself agreeing with nearly everything the critics say about Walton, yet I still enjoy watching his games because of his genuine love for the game and because he's just plain funny to listen to and great to make fun of.

                      Miles: Easy target. Does anyone, I mean anyone, consider this guy a rising star anymore?

                      Collins: Another easy target, and even more misguided. Afraid to go after Jordan, who is far more responsible for what happened in Washington this year, he jumps on Doug Collins.

                      Wallace: I like Ben Wallace too, but where is Hollinger wrong here? A one-way player shouldn't be considered for MVP of the league. He's a great one-way player, but he is a liability on the offensive end. Nobody's disrespecting him, he just doesn't deserve to be league MVP. Hollinger is completely right about the East/West thing. If the Pistons or any other top East team were in the West, they'd be in the 7 or 8 spot and totally ignored.

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                      • LHayes37
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1311

                        #12
                        Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

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                        You are wrong about New Orleans. Baron Davis is a potent All-Star, as well as Jamal Mashburn.

                        They don't have a paper-thin bench. Thy have one of the deepest benches in the East, as a matter of fact.

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                        One of the deepest benches in the East...Well yipee...That's like saying one of the best teams in the East, which means about the 7th or 8th best in the league and no shot at winning the title. When New Orleans moves to the West in a few years any chance of them reaching the finals goes flying out the window.

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                        • LHayes37
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1311

                          #13
                          Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

                          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                          You are wrong about New Orleans. Baron Davis is a potent All-Star, as well as Jamal Mashburn.

                          They don't have a paper-thin bench. Thy have one of the deepest benches in the East, as a matter of fact.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          One of the deepest benches in the East...Well yipee...That's like saying one of the best teams in the East, which means about the 7th or 8th best in the league and no shot at winning the title. When New Orleans moves to the West in a few years any chance of them reaching the finals goes flying out the window.

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                          • Bad_Intentions
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 5392

                            #14
                            Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

                            ok, whoever wrote this article is full of it. NO does have one of the deepest benches in the league. They can sub in anybody from their bench to contribute. Thats not saying there the best team but to say they have a "paper thin" bench is absurd. We arent talkin about how good they will be in the west. As of now they are in the EAST and will be in the EASTERN conference playoffs and believe it or not they do have a shot at making the finals. Dont automatically count them out as not having a chance in the west. I do believe this year they were the best eastern conference team against western conference teams. Who knows what kind of team they will have in 2 years, maybe better maybe worse but they can compete.

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                            • Bad_Intentions
                              All Star
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 5392

                              #15
                              Re: The 2003 All-Overated Team

                              ok, whoever wrote this article is full of it. NO does have one of the deepest benches in the league. They can sub in anybody from their bench to contribute. Thats not saying there the best team but to say they have a "paper thin" bench is absurd. We arent talkin about how good they will be in the west. As of now they are in the EAST and will be in the EASTERN conference playoffs and believe it or not they do have a shot at making the finals. Dont automatically count them out as not having a chance in the west. I do believe this year they were the best eastern conference team against western conference teams. Who knows what kind of team they will have in 2 years, maybe better maybe worse but they can compete.

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