NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

[DC]

1: Introduction: A basic rule, yet a mystery. - http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...n-the-NBA.html

2. NBA Executive: "We really don't reference the rulebook." - http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...Rulebook-.html

3. NBA players on video: What's the rule? - http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...o-Players.html

4. Why traveling is tough to call. - http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...e-to-Call.html

5. Rewrite the rule. - http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...-the-Rule.html

[KG]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

Now that is a well written article.

That hop that Dwade did was hard to tell in real-time but in slow-mo he traveled. I can't blame NBA refs for missing some of the travels since they happen so fast.

[Phillmattic]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

How many people here, when growing up learning to play basketball, where told that the proper way to perform a layup was to take two steps before going up?

I thought that was what you learned from day one.

But the NBA rulebook, and a hundred million basketball fans around the globe, insist players ought to get only one step after picking up their dribble like that.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

They need to do something to enforce this rule over the past 5 years it has gotten ridiculous.

[FSU_Animal]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

How many people here, when growing up learning to play basketball, where told that the proper way to perform a layup was to take two steps before going up?

I thought that was what you learned from day one.

Not me. I was taught that once you pick the ball up, you only get one step. Wade clearly had the ball already gathered, stepped once, then stepped a second time, before finally going up for the shot.

I gather the ball, take one step, followed by a shot or a pass. That's just how I was taught growing up. Even alot of the older players are saying they thought it was one step but in those videos where they asked Greg Oden, Rudy Fernandez, Louis Williams, Channing Frye, Reggie Evans ... notice one recurring theme? They say two steps but old timers are saying that is a travel.

It's the one rule that everyone should know but it's the one rule you ever rarely find it being called. Just ask Michael Jordan what's traveling (yes, I am a Jordan fan).

[FSU_Animal]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

Not me. I was taught that once you pick the ball up, you only get one step. Wade clearly had the ball already gathered, stepped once, then stepped a second time, before finally going up for the shot.

I gather the ball, take one step, followed by a shot or a pass. That's just how I was taught growing up. Even alot of the older players are saying they thought it was one step but in those videos where they asked Greg Oden, Rudy Fernandez, Louis Williams, Channing Frye, Reggie Evans ... notice one recurring theme? They say two steps but old timers are saying that is a travel.

It's the one rule that everyone should know but it's the one rule you ever rarely find it being called. Just ask Michael Jordan what's traveling (yes, I am a Jordan fan).

Had to watch that video of Wade over and over and over because something was just not right about the whole thing.

I think it was mentioned in the article but Wade did have a roaming pivot foot. I was always taught, though I never read the actual rules, that when in possession of the basketball and not dribbling it, that one foot becomes the pivot foot at all times. The first moment you move one foot, the foot that stays planted becomes the pivot foot until you either a) shoot or b) pass. If at any time you are not dribbling and both feet move without one foot being the pivot foot, then you are traveling.

Dwayne Wade spun but did not have a planted pivot foot. He basically spun in the air before landing about 6 inches in front of where he started, took one step with his left foot, then another with his right, and finally pushed upwards for the shot.

[mgoblue]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

Now that is a well written article.

That hop that Dwade did was hard to tell in real-time but in slow-mo he traveled. I can't blame NBA refs for missing some of the travels since they happen so fast.

That article was great, thanks DC!

[Tha_Kid]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

How many people here, when growing up learning to play basketball, where told that the proper way to perform a layup was to take two steps before going up?

I thought that was what you learned from day one.

I think the wording might be confusing some people in their answers. If you're gathering, then that step right before gathering is one step, then another and up. At the same time, its also two steps before you go up. So one step following the gather and two steps before going up are the same thing..

dribble - step/gather - step - basket

is what i mean. Also, many of the hop step travels aren't called, but you have to land on both feet at the same time for it to be a hop step. If one foot comes down before the other, thats just a step and then the other leg is the 2nd. So if you step then hopstep but you don't land on both feet at the same time, that's a travel.

[J.R. Locke]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

This has never bothered me. I think they should take some leeway with moves to the baskets.

I do think they should call more travels when players "explode" out of triple threat/standstill position. So many players move both legs(exchange pivot feet) before they dribble the ball.

[DC]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

The NBA made a rule change for next season that will permit the 'crab dribble', which was made famous by LeBron James.

"We're working on it," Joe Borgia, NBA's vice president of referee operations, told the ESPN.com blog Truehoop recently.

"Our traveling rule we've been discussing for a couple of years," he said. "The game has evolved. I don't think the rule has evolved since the time of Bob Cousy. But we're also going to probably share it with the NCAA and maybe FIBA, because it would be nice if we could all come up with a similar rule. A similar rule would be great for the players, the coaches, and the officials."

http://realgm.com/src_wir...rab_dribble_rule_change/

[Pared]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

Great post.

[KG]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

The NBA made a rule change for next season that will permit the 'crab dribble', which was made famous by LeBron James.

"We're working on it," Joe Borgia, NBA's vice president of referee operations, told the ESPN.com blog Truehoop recently.

"Our traveling rule we've been discussing for a couple of years," he said. "The game has evolved. I don't think the rule has evolved since the time of Bob Cousy. But we're also going to probably share it with the NCAA and maybe FIBA, because it would be nice if we could all come up with a similar rule. A similar rule would be great for the players, the coaches, and the officials."

http://realgm.com/src_wir...rab_dribble_rule_change/

That ish wasn't even a real "crab dribble". That was his trademark step through which is definately a travel.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

About damn time.

[Checmate101]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

aren't you allowed to take two steps? lebron takes 3-4

ahh, baby LeBron got called a few times for traveling?.. It's ok Baby boy You grandpa in David Stern and the rest of the nba is here to save you. Now wipe them tears from your eyes.

In a lil bit Lebron is going to be able to call his own fouls and violations.

[DakkoN]

Re: NBA Traveling: Rewrite the Rule (From The ESPN TrueHoop Blog)

ahh, baby LeBron got called a few times for traveling?.. It's ok Baby boy You grandpa in David Stern and the rest of the nba is here to save you. Now wipe them tears from your eyes.