AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

but are u still pushing hard for the playoffs or are you looking at next year?

That question has been answered numerous times and if you've watched the Pistons this season then the answer should be more than obvious.

Not trying to be a smart *** or anything but if the team is shutting down Iverson for the year and benching Rasheediot, then it's obvious they're looking towards the future. But Kruza basically explained why they're going with that move and also why they're doing it too.

[Jukeman]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

That question has been answered numerous times and if you've watched the Pistons this season then the answer should be more than obvious.

Not trying to be a smart *** or anything but if the team is shutting down Iverson for the year and benching Rasheediot, then it's obvious they're looking towards the future. But Kruza basically explained why they're going with that move and also why they're doing it too.

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to realise a True big will play better with a True PF....Before you had a PF who thinks he is a SF playing C with a undersize PF mainly controlling the post....

Anyways, why are they not starting maxiel or johnson along with brown? If they are looking towards next year it shouldnt matter if mcdyess is playing good or not....they have no direction right now... sorry

We as fans can easily sit here and say "oh, they are building for the future"(guys were saying this the first 5 games with A.I.) but what are the Pistons really thinking behind close doors...Im super sure they wasnt thinking this at 5-0 and sure wasnt thinking it when they brought in A.I.(yea his contract, but they wanted his fire power aswhile; dont see how this downhill finish is A.I.'s fault when A.I was even A.I with this team)

from day one when Billups left(the leader who runs the team) Curry didnt have a clue wat to do offensively....I remember in a interview he(Curry) said " I dont call plays, I let Stucky run the offense" really? Also Pre A.I.(pre season to be exact) he(Curry)said he want the offense to run thru Prince?...The Stuckey comment was back at the start of the season so I dont know if things changed but from me watching many Piston games this year, I cant tell....Again maybe Dumars has a master plan and he will dish out some "attribute" points to Curry's coaching with his cap room....

[daflyboys]

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Iverson should go West. The East has his number and his halfcourt game isn't as it used to be.

Nah...he should go east..... like Japan.

Actually, if I were his next coach, I'd make him come off the bench....







.....during practice!!

[ronyell]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

T-Mac probably out until December after microfracture surgery, could come off of bench but still get 30-35 mpg if T-Mac is returns early. A.I. would be a great addition for the Rockets.

He could even play for the Heat at the PG position if he and Wade could share the ball with wade. (problem here is that they are a young aspiring team like the Bobcats & they probably wouldn't want to maess up their continuity)

IMO he will be retiring if he's serious because there just isn't a place for him where they would be willing to give ANYTHING longer that a 2 year deal with an option; MAX... especially a contender!

[Muzyk23]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

The guy averaged 25 and 7 last season. He couldn't have got old within 6 months. He still got it. I still believe.

[Tha_Kid]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

The guy averaged 25 and 7 last season. He couldn't have got old within 6 months. He still got it. I still believe.

This.

Pistons should've took today's game though. Rasheed was pretty off but if Kwame Brown plays like that and Rasheed shoots like he did his first game back, the Pistons could still give someone trouble. Regardless of how they smashed the Cavs, the Magic have problems with the Pistons.

[Mo_Magic]

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This.

Pistons should've took today's game though. Rasheed was pretty off but if Kwame Brown plays like that and Rasheed shoots like he did his first game back, the Pistons could still give someone trouble. Regardless of how they smashed the Cavs, the Magic have problems with the Pistons.

Yup. Because of Sheed. He forces Dwight out onto the perimeter more often than not and keeps him from altering shots near the basket/rebounding the hell out of the ball.

AI is the type of player that NEEDS to be iso'd. He's small and doesn't have the shooting ability to make up for it. Because of this, he needs to be iso'd so he can have 1 on 1 situations against opposing players and take them off the dribble to either get open looks or slashes to the basket.

The only team that's ever used him right was the 6ers', surrounding the man with ONLY defensively talented players that could hold teams to respectable ppg numbers and letting Iverson beat teams on offense. It was effective, and I believe he hasn't fallen off as hard as people have said, he just isn't being used right.

[Kruza]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

It doesnt take a rocket scientist to realise a True big will play better with a True PF....Before you had a PF who thinks he is a SF playing C with a undersize PF mainly controlling the post....

Anyways, why are they not starting maxiel or johnson along with brown? If they are looking towards next year it shouldnt matter if mcdyess is playing good or not....they have no direction right now... sorry

We as fans can easily sit here and say "oh, they are building for the future"(guys were saying this the first 5 games with A.I.) but what are the Pistons really thinking behind close doors...Im super sure they wasnt thinking this at 5-0 and sure wasnt thinking it when they brought in A.I.(yea his contract, but they wanted his fire power aswhile; dont see how this downhill finish is A.I.'s fault when A.I was even A.I with this team)

from day one when Billups left(the leader who runs the team) Curry didnt have a clue wat to do offensively....I remember in a interview he(Curry) said " I dont call plays, I let Stucky run the offense" really? Also Pre A.I.(pre season to be exact) he(Curry)said he want the offense to run thru Prince?...The Stuckey comment was back at the start of the season so I dont know if things changed but from me watching many Piston games this year, I cant tell....Again maybe Dumars has a master plan and he will dish out some "attribute" points to Curry's coaching with his cap room....

Starting Amir Johnson and Jason Maxiell is a bad idea as both players are not consistent defensive rebounders. Not to mention doing this would kill the team's half-court offense as neither player has a polished and reliable low post game or even a mid-range jumper at the moment. Despite being in transition phase, the Pistons still want to play competitively every game out. You don't have to play garbage lineups and deliberately tank a season in order to develop young players.

What do you think coach Byron Scott does for Chris Paul? What coach Pop does for Tony Parker? What coach Rick Carlisle does for Jason Kidd? What coach Larry Brown does for D.J. Augustin? Most head coaches prefer to allow their point guards to handle the playcalling duties and run the offense unless they absolutely have to step in, and it turns out that Michael Curry is one of those guys. This decision can make a positive difference for teams. For example, the Grizzlies didn't really blossom offensively this season until the new interim coach had decided to give the reins to his point guards, O.J. Mayo and Michael Conley Jr., to call the plays. The team's offense was struggling on most nights under former coach Iavaroni when he was calling just about evey play. The Mavericks didn't really get things going offensively until Carlisle learned to stop calling majority of the team's plays and trust Kidd to run the team.

As for the Pistons plans this year... the initial plan was to have AI and Stuckey take turns running the half-court offense while the Pistons started those 3-guard lineups early in the season. However, both players had difficulties getting the Pistons into the half-court sets, so coach Curry anointed Tay to do it until those guys got familiar with doing it themselves. Then another major problem that occcured: The 3-guard lineup was getting killed on the boards on both ends of the floor. So it was decided by the coaching staff that one of the three guards had to come off the bench. Stuck is the player who has to be developed as the PG of the future, so he got the nod to remain as starter. Rip had the groin injury which allowed AI to be the other starting guard by default for a while. Once Rip became healthy enough to play he came off the bench while AI continued to start. The team continued to struggle. Next, Rip became starting SG and AI come off the bench, and then the rest is history. What goes on now is that Stuck unquestionably runs the offense and Will Bynum does the same as backup PG.

This.

Pistons should've took today's game though. Rasheed was pretty off but if Kwame Brown plays like that and Rasheed shoots like he did his first game back, the Pistons could still give someone trouble. Regardless of how they smashed the Cavs, the Magic have problems with the Pistons.

I couldn't believe it when I see coach Curry had decided to play both Sheed and Dice at the same time late in the 4th quarter against the 76ers. That is not going to work if no one on the team is knocking down jumpers, which is exactly what happened when the Sixers packed the lane. And neither player protected the basket defensively against Andre Miller and Lou Williams driving to the cup. Kwame had played really well this game on both ends of the floor and should've been out there during crunch time. Or Curry could've gone to Amir, who had a good game against the Sixers just last week when the Pistons secured a win playing during crunch time.

Anyway, this Pistons team is way too inconsistent to even be in a discussion as being capable of winning a single playoff series against any of the East's Big 3. This season has been a wash from the get-go, and I actually wouldn't mind if we miss the playoffs altogether.

Kruza

[GSW]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

Allen Iverson is a quitter.

I cannot beleive yall are givng him a free pass and nobody has brought this up.

that used to be my dude right there... but refusing the come off the bench, then using a back as an excuse, then quitting is bottom of the barrel, give me my ball im going home type of stuff.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

Dead Man Walking on OS GSW lol.

[DC]

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Will bynum

[GSW]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

Dead Man Walking on OS GSW lol.

hes dead to me for his latest actions, that some borderline carebear stuff right there man..

[o_capone]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

allen iverson didn't ask for the pistons, the pistons asked for allen iverson... why the hell would you trade for a man, knowing his game, and expect him to change... he has been the sam AI his whole career.... the detroit pistons did allen iverson wrong, he did not do them wrong...

[Stumbleweed]

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Agreed. They gave him big minutes and were winning at the same percentage early in the season, but Curry scuttled that and now they just did him dirty starting Stuckey and Rip instead of AI/Rip. It's clear that it was a salary cap move, but they honestly should've just cut him if this is what they had planned -- they're paying the $21 mil for this season anyway...

He could've handled it better, but he's always said that he'd retire before he falls off the #1 or #2 spots on the scouting report. He's a prideful guy who knows that he's worked his *** off every game he's played, played hurt, etc. and now he's getting trashed like he's just a spoiled crybaby. The back issue was legitimate, but there's no way to know if he's healthy now or not -- those things come and go, and it might've limited his effectiveness where he knew that he wouldn't play at a high enough level to get more than 20 minutes through the playoffs. I don't think it was a "take my ball and go home" kind of thing -- the whole situation mututally wasn't working out at this point in the year, the Pistons are just seeing dollar signs coming off the books, and AI feels (rightfully) that he's been disrespected. Just a bad situation all-around... hope he finds a good spot next year.

[GSW]

Re: AI would rather retire than come off the bench?

he refused to come off the bench man.

then he quit.

why are you sticking up for him.