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  • Muzyk23
    MVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 4192

    #121
    Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

    Originally posted by muggins


    Not near the ball at all, and another reason why the NBA has garbage ratings.
    Maybe in the States, but believe me in Europe nobody cares about other American sports, i.e. baseball or football.
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    • mKoz26
      In case you forgot...
      • Jan 2009
      • 4685

      #122
      Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

      Originally posted by ehh
      There was no wind up and no follow through from Rondo. The only reason there was blood is because he caught Miller in the mouth, which there is no mention in any rulebook that "facial contact is a flagrant foul."

      I really can't believe so many people think this was a flagrant foul.
      Lol he definately followed through.
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      • mKoz26
        In case you forgot...
        • Jan 2009
        • 4685

        #123
        Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

        Originally posted by Altimus
        It was a flagrant. Why? Because Charles Barkley said so.
        Correct. Those turrible knucklehead refs.


        ^That video does contain a swear word.
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        • SpacemanSpiff
          MVP
          • Mar 2005
          • 1279

          #124
          Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

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          • Altimus
            Chelsea, Assemble!
            • Nov 2004
            • 27283

            #125
            Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

            In all honesty this is a dead issue and is taking the heat of the real problem.

            Vinny's lack of coaching in OT. The bigger question is why was there no change in defense when Pierce kept doing the same play over and over. Why no double team? Make players the Allen and Marbury make the shot.

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            • Gibbz
              All Star
              • Aug 2005
              • 8240

              #126
              Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

              It was clearly a flagrant foul, and I don't know how even a Celtics homer could dispute it.

              I don't really care about this series, but with the Celtics seriously struggling against a .500 rookie-led Bulls team I don't see them getting out of round 2.

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              • yvesdereuter
                Banned
                • Jun 2007
                • 1688

                #127
                Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

                Originally posted by Altimus
                In all honesty this is a dead issue and is taking the heat of the real problem.

                Vinny's lack of coaching in OT. The bigger question is why was there no change in defense when Pierce kept doing the same play over and over. Why no double team? Make players the Allen and Marbury make the shot.
                Why does he not save a timeout for the end of the game twice in a row?

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                • ezekiel55
                  Th*s F*c* C*sh*s Ch*cks
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 2156

                  #128
                  Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

                  That was clearly a flagrant...yes, I'm a Bulls fan, but if the tables were turned and Rose did that to Big Baby or Perkins and the refs missed the call I would've felt it was cheap. I dont let my fandom blind me from the reality of the situation.

                  It happened, there's nothing we can do about it, so I'm just gonna drop it.

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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28959

                    #129
                    Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

                    Just got a text alert from ESPN saying Rondo will not be fined or suspended.
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                    • Beantown
                      #DoYourJob
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 31523

                      #130
                      Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

                      Originally posted by ehh
                      Just got a text alert from ESPN saying Rondo will not be fined or suspended.
                      Yeah, they said the same thing on ESPNNews a few minutes ago.

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                      • Po Pimp
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 2248

                        #131
                        Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

                        I'm glad Rondo wasn't suspended (nor did I think he would), and I'm a Bulls fan.

                        Yeah, it was a flagrant, but so what? We had our chances and blew it, despite the uneven officiating.

                        The only reason this is even an issue to me is because they were ready to EJECT Brad Miller for that Big Baby flop, but when Rondo smacks him in the face from behind, its just a foul.

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                        • ezekiel55
                          Th*s F*c* C*sh*s Ch*cks
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 2156

                          #132
                          Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

                          Originally posted by Po Pimp
                          I'm glad Rondo wasn't suspended (nor did I think he would), and I'm a Bulls fan.

                          Yeah, it was a flagrant, but so what? We had our chances and blew it, despite the uneven officiating.

                          The only reason this is even an issue to me is because they were ready to EJECT Brad Miller for that Big Baby flop, but when Rondo smacks him in the face from behind, its just a foul.
                          For sure....I didnt see any malice on Rondo's part, he got beat and his last option was fouling hard.

                          It was a clear that it was a flagrant but if the league suspend him posthumously, ala Dwight, I would've been pissed.

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                          • J0nnD0ugh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 16602

                            #133
                            Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

                            Originally posted by BTB
                            You guys are ridiculous if you are really pointing out that intent is not in the rule book. The rule posted indicates that the contact must be "unnecessary". That leaves HUGE room for interpretation. It literally only depends on what the refs calling the game determine to be necessary contact. If they thought Rondo was swiping for the ball, in other words had INTENT to hit the ball, then they might not deem the foul unecessary and therefore flagrant. Therefore a) intent matters because it determines necessity and b) if the refs concluded he was going for the ball then they would not call a flagrant on it.
                            How does "necessary" judge "intent"? They have nothing to do w/each other.

                            Originally posted by ehh
                            Brilliant picture, showing the tail end of the play.
                            So that split second made Rondo miss the ball by 3 feet? Come on, ehh. You're better than that.

                            Originally posted by ezekiel55
                            For sure....I didnt see any malice on Rondo's part, he got beat and his last option was fouling hard.

                            It was a clear that it was a flagrant but if the league suspend him posthumously, ala Dwight, I would've been pissed.
                            Agreed. He intended to foul. It was worse than he wanted. It was a mistake. It shouldn't carry over to the next game. Though, w/NBA officials, it will.
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                            • Woodcutta
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 164

                              #134
                              Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

                              Ok, for all of those that don't think it was a flagrant foul. If it had been reversed and Miller had smacked Rondo in the face while not even attempting to go for the ball do you think it would have been called a flagrant foul? Remember this was in Boston.

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                              • HMcCoy
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8212

                                #135
                                Re: Brad Miller: Celtics are cheap headhunters...

                                Kudos to Rondo for pretending to track the ball while he slapped at Miller, lol.

                                I doubt he meant to slap dude so hard, or in his face...he prolly thought he'd just get off a desperation club to the side of his head...but he was looking directly at Millers noggin as he was gathering his jump. That was an obvious hack, and a hack above the shoulders is a flagrant by rule. Rondo was in no way playing that ball.

                                You can't apologize for a play that may have saved the season, tho. Considering the C's were getting KILLED by the officiating the entire game, that blown call was karma.
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