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  • Vince
    Bow for Bau
    • Aug 2002
    • 26017

    #1

    Rick Adelman...

    Chip or no Chip, can we say that considering his success with his past stops like Portland and Sacramento and what he continues to do with a depleted Rox roster, he has a great case to be in the upper echelon of top 3-5 coaches in the league?

    I think so.
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  • J0nnD0ugh
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 16602

    #2
    Re: Rick Adelman...

    I was going to post a thread like this earlier, but was too lazy @ the time.

    Consider who he lost championships to: Repeat champions Detroit. Repeat champions Chicago. Repeat champions LA. Considering how he went down to LA w/Sacramento, I think he has been the most underrated NBA coach in the last 30 yrs. You don't see his face on the TV all the time, begging for attention. He's not going to give you the bulletin board quote. He just sits back & wins. I'd put him below Pop. But after that, in x's & o's, I think he's better than Phil & nearly the equal of Larry Brown.
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    -August 17, 1960
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    • Court_vision
      Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 8290

      #3
      Re: Rick Adelman...

      Great coach...and he's had great offensive squads (Portland, Sac) and now a great defensive squad in Houston. He can play either way.

      His cameo in Office Space as one of the Bobs was great also

      Yeah...okay, he doesn't look much like Bob...but, for some reason, I always think of Office Space whenever I see Coach Adelman , Must be the hair



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      • amra01
        Pro
        • Sep 2002
        • 688

        #4
        Re: Rick Adelman...

        One of the best coaches out there his teams had character and played basketball the right way...

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        • ehh
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2003
          • 28962

          #5
          Re: Rick Adelman...

          JVG called him a HOFer during Game 6.
          "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #6
            Re: Rick Adelman...

            Originally posted by ehh
            JVG called him a HOFer during Game 6.
            If the Rox pull off the upset he's a HOF coach for sure. It'll be cemented in stone. The guy is vastly underrated I think. A lot of people thought of him as just an offensive guru before this year but he's really shown he can coach a defensive style and the players all buy into what he says.

            He's definitely an elite level coach IMO.
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            • ex carrabba fan
              I'll thank him for you
              • Oct 2004
              • 32744

              #7
              Re: Rick Adelman...

              He's in my top 5

              Pops
              Adelman
              Sloan
              Nate
              Last spot: Phil or Mike Brown

              Besides Brown, those 5 up there have been my top 5 for a while now

              Just missed:
              Karl
              LB

              Oh and I doubt Adelman makes the Hall.. if he wins one ring then he'd have a strong case.

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              • Vince
                Bow for Bau
                • Aug 2002
                • 26017

                #8
                Re: Rick Adelman...

                I've felt that Karl has been tuned out by the Nuggets players for a while..Even last year they don't really listen to him...Chauncey is the coach of that team...I think Karl really showed how good of a coach he was with Seattle and Milwaukee, but Denver im not so sure...
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                • Court_vision
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 8290

                  #9
                  Re: Rick Adelman...

                  Originally posted by Vince
                  I've felt that Karl has been tuned out by the Nuggets players for a while..Even last year they don't really listen to him...Chauncey is the coach of that team...I think Karl really showed how good of a coach he was with Seattle and Milwaukee, but Denver im not so sure...
                  I think Coach Karl is doing a hell of a good job...and showing that he's matured by allowing Chauncey to run the team at times, as you said. Great combo.

                  Denver coach George Karl has gotten his team into the Western Conference Finals, but has deferred a majority of the credit to Chauncey Billups.

                  "There's a nice spirit to what's going on," said Karl. "I'll just try to stay out of the way and not mess it up."

                  Karl has even passed some of the offensive control over to Billups, because of the point guard's ability to make adjustments when needed.

                  "You don't understand how good he is at running the team, you don't understand how good he is at cerebrally making sure things are going the right way," Karl said. "He's a head coach a lot. He overrides me a lot."

                  Billups appreciates the confidence that Karl has shown in him in just their first season together.

                  "Sometimes he'll give me the leeway and say, 'OK, run what you like,' " Billups said. "And sometimes he'll say, 'No, this is what I like.' It's all for the good of the team. It's never anything personal ... Some coaches in this league are maybe a little too stubborn or want to run the show — want to call every single play and just dominate the game. George is not like that."

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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #10
                    Re: Rick Adelman...

                    Regarding Karl

                    It all starts and ends with Melo and Iverson.

                    Up until the Olympics I think it was fairly apparent that Melo wasn't mature enough to be a leader, especially by example.

                    After going through the Olympic process I believe he learned invaluable lessons from Kidd, LBJ, and even Kob.. the coaches etc. etc.

                    Also the only thing I'll say regarding Iverson is that it was a major addition by subtraction. Hell even if they don't acquire Billups I'd bet they'd look much better than last year.

                    One last thing, I'd be interested to hear how much Karl has influenced JR Smith. It's no secret Smith has had trouble with coaches in the past but this season Smith has looked incredible. He's like a head screwed on straight Ben Gordon.

                    In short if Melo doesn't go through the Olympics and if Iverson was still there Karl would have already lost before the season even started.

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                    • PrettyT11
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3220

                      #11
                      Re: Rick Adelman...

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      One last thing, I'd be interested to hear how much Karl has influenced JR Smith. It's no secret Smith has had trouble with coaches in the past but this season Smith has looked incredible. He's like a head screwed on straight Ben Gordon.
                      I saw an interview this mourning with JR on NBA Tv with Aldridge and Snow and he gave ALL the credit to BILLUPS. He was talking about his leadership and attitude and how it greatly improved him on and off the court. He made ZERO mention of Karl in his improvement. So I guess according to JR Billups has far more influence.

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                      • Streets
                        Supreme
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 5787

                        #12
                        Re: Rick Adelman...

                        Sounds like Billups has a career as a head coach after he's done as a player (hopefully).

                        As far as Adelman is concerned, if he wins this game 7, it will go along way in boosting his legacy (slim chance of that happening).

                        Still, I'd love to see what he could do with a full roster since it seems like every year Houston is cursed with huge injuries (this year obviously being the worst yet).

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                        • J0nnD0ugh
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 16602

                          #13
                          Re: Rick Adelman...

                          Isn't it to Karl's credit that he recognizes when to take a step back? How many coaches, especially w/a rep for a domineering personality like Karl, would defer to someone else when he sees that one has a better handle on things? HC's want to micromanage everything, especially when failure means they lose their job. I think what Karl did was good coaching.
                          Originally posted by VP Richard M. Nixon
                          I always remember that whatever I have done in the past, or may do in the future, Duke University is responsible one way or the other.
                          -August 17, 1960
                          Thanks, dookies!

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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #14
                            Re: Rick Adelman...

                            Agreed..being a leader is also recognizing when to let those around you that can help you do so. He'd be a fool not to allow his PG to be his on floor extension

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                            • The Chef
                              Moderator
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 13684

                              #15
                              Re: Rick Adelman...

                              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                              He's in my top 5

                              Pops
                              Adelman
                              Sloan
                              Nate
                              Last spot: Phil or Mike Brown

                              Besides Brown, those 5 up there have been my top 5 for a while now

                              Just missed:
                              Karl
                              LB

                              Oh and I doubt Adelman makes the Hall.. if he wins one ring then he'd have a strong case.
                              There is no way in hell that Nate belongs in the top 5 coaches, no way. Sure, Portland made the playoffs but its not like he took an average team and made them better, he took a good team and lost in the first round to Houston. My top coaches are the following...

                              Greg Popovich
                              Jerry Sloan
                              Rick Adelman
                              Phil Jackson

                              After that I see a drop off to the second tier guys like Mike Brown, George Karl, Larry Brown etc.
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