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  • Hassan Darkside
    We Here
    • Sep 2003
    • 7561

    #1

    So...let's talk about technical fouls

    Well one of the bigger topics of discussion this post season is technical fouls. Dwight Howard has 5 because he just got his rescinded. So what I'm wondering is what do you guys think about these technical foul rules? 7 technical fouls and you get suspended? Is rescinding technical fouls even fair?

    In my opinion, I detest the rules. I understand what the league is getting at with the 7 technical foul limit, but like Chuck (or was it Kenny?) said, where did they get the number 7 from? It has no significance, it must be made up. Maybe it has to do with the number of games in a series.

    Also, JVG mentioned tonight that it only penalizes the teams that advance further in the playoffs, which is completely true. It's common sense/math that the longer you play, the more likely you are to pick up an additional T. Another unfair rule.

    And then there's the business of rescinding technical fouls. It's good in principal, along with flagrant fouls, for the league to review. But should the league over rule the current referee crew on the court that decides what's a T and what isn't? And they also have the ability to review in the game. I'm not sure if they consult the monitors for Ts, but I know they do for flagrants.

    And the biggest issue I have with it is rescinding the T itself, but that having no effect on the game. The game penalty of a technical foul is a freethrow for the other team. So let's take Dwight's T last night for example. Mo Williams goes and knocks the FT down, Cleveland gets a free point. What else happens? Lo and behold, the game goes to overtime because it is tied. That one point makes a world of difference. But when you rescind the foul, you don't rescind the point.

    So what they need to rescind the rules themselves. Every player on the court knows dang well how important every point is and most kick themselves after the game after getting one. I think the current consequences are enough.
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  • TheMatrix31
    RF
    • Jul 2002
    • 52929

    #2
    Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

    7 probably comes from the fact that its 16 during the regular season, so if there are 81 games, half of that would be 42. Half of 16 would be 8. Assuming a team goes 7 games all four rounds...that's 28 games.

    I guess it's somewhat proportional.

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    • Hassan Darkside
      We Here
      • Sep 2003
      • 7561

      #3
      Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

      Originally posted by TheMatrix31
      7 probably comes from the fact that its 16 during the regular season, so if there are 81 games, half of that would be 42. Half of 16 would be 8. Assuming a team goes 7 games all four rounds...that's 28 games.

      I guess it's somewhat proportional.
      I'm pretty sure the only math David Stern knows is Kobe+LeBron=ratings. And after reading your post, I think your math skills are on par with David Stern's.

      lol.
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      • FlyRice
        Lillard Time
        • Nov 2008
        • 1280

        #4
        Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

        You know what they should do? If a tech is rescinded, the referee who issued the tech should be fined the amount that the player would have received. Maybe that will stop them from handing out techs like its candy.
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        • mizzta21
          MVP
          • Oct 2003
          • 1135

          #5
          Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

          its simple, technical fouls are given out to well... prevent technical fouls... lol, crazy as it may sound, thats the NBA for ya.
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          • Stumbleweed
            Livin' the dream
            • Oct 2006
            • 6279

            #6
            Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

            I love JVG's idea about the fouls resetting after each series, because to have a guy like Dwight possibly getting suspended for a game of the NBA Finals due to some BS tech that occured 3 series ago, that's just crazy and hurts the sport's level of competition. I also think that the same refs should officiate all games of a given playoff series so that there is more consistency in calls throughout a series (even if it's consistently bad or missed calls, at least the players would know to adjust).

            Right now, the officials have been basically pulling the rug on players in the 4th quarter because they magically decide to tighten up the calls (normally after a tech or a rough play) and then it turns into a FT-filled snoozefest for the last 12 minutes.

            But yeah, there's no way that arguing with officials or the other stuff that people get T'd up for (shoving, taunting, glaring, etc. is PLAYOFF BASKETBALL) should be something that gets them suspended for a playoff game unless it's something that's really eggregious or happens over and over again. I think that 5 techs per series is reasonable -- if you can't control yourself with a generous limit like that, then yeah, go for it.

            But as is stands right now, the NBA just rescinds whichever foul seems the most chinsy to prevent the player from being suspended... it happens over and over. It seems obvious to me -- either don't call that stupid chinsy foul in the first place and let them play because it's the damn playoffs OR change the automatic suspension rule so that it's not almost exclusively punishing teams that go deep into the playoffs. The way it's being handled right now and throughout the playoffs is just a farce.
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            • Brankles
              Banned
              • May 2003
              • 5113

              #7
              Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

              Double dipping on technicals.

              Dwight was suspended a game for elbowing Dalembert in the face. That same technical/flagrant can be used against him later to suspend him for yet another game during in an even more important series.

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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #8
                Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

                Let's talk about how freaking ******** the 7 technical= suspension rule is. I mean what the f'in F? Get outta here with that horse ish.

                Is there any doubt Dwight reaches 7? It's pretty much a done deal IMO, especially when it empowers the clowns like Vereajow to bait him into picking up a cheap one.

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                • Stumbleweed
                  Livin' the dream
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 6279

                  #9
                  Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

                  Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                  Is there any doubt Dwight reaches 7? It's pretty much a done deal IMO, especially when it empowers the clowns like Vereajow to bait him into picking up a cheap one.
                  That's the worst part to me... it's akin to sending in some scrub to hack a star player and injure him... it's anti-competitive and hurts the quality of games. No way should the star player of an NBA Finals team be suspended a game for responding to some ******* baiting him because he knows it only takes one more...

                  I have no problem if a star punched another guy, attacked a ref, etc. and gets suspended -- that's a no-brainer... but to do it for this paltry crap is just insane to me. And yeah, good point about the "double jeopardy" situation with the fouls, Brankles.

                  And this doesn't even address the way the league just rescinds/reduces the techs/flagrants even though it might've resulted in an ejection during an important game. I just hate players being ejected period, but when it's for piddly crap like what most technicals (or flagrants these days.. jeez) are called for, it's crazy. Players should only be suspended for flagrant-2 fouls (AFTER review by a board of officials after the game) or off-the-court behavior (which would be a team decision), and there would have to be multiple flagrant fouls by the same player in a series to make that happen. Technicals should just get fined or something like JVG's "penalty box" idea where they lose playing time but aren't just outright suspended for a game.
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                  • TheMatrix31
                    RF
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 52929

                    #10
                    Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

                    He has 5 on him now?

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                    • Stumbleweed
                      Livin' the dream
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 6279

                      #11
                      Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

                      EDIT: Nevermind...
                      Last edited by Stumbleweed; 05-29-2009, 02:00 PM.
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                      • 55
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 20857

                        #12
                        Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

                        Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                        He has 5 on him now?
                        Correct. They rescinded the 6th one he got whistled for in game four.

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                        • Stumbleweed
                          Livin' the dream
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 6279

                          #13
                          Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

                          And if they care about a competitive Finals, I think we'll see more rescinded technicals from Dwight...
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                          • Hassan Darkside
                            We Here
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 7561

                            #14
                            Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

                            Originally posted by Stumbleweed
                            And if they care about a competitive Finals, I think we'll see more rescinded technicals from Dwight...
                            They do. Which is why you could see 2 Ts on Dwight very soon to ensure LeBron gets there.
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                            A true MC, y'all doing them regular degular dance songs
                            You losin' your teeth, moving like using Kevin Durant comb
                            Royce da 5'9"


                            Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                            How many brothers fell victim to the skeet.........

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                            • mizzta21
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1135

                              #15
                              Re: So...let's talk about technical fouls

                              lol at your avatar^^^
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