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  • Cebby
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    • Apr 2005
    • 22327

    #46
    Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

    Originally posted by Brankles
    This is also a sign he will take his opponents lightly because he doesn't think they're on his level.
    That is absurd.

    All of his teammates in Cleveland look scared of him, in a bad way. Not in a "you're our leader" type of way, but in a "if I have a falling out with you, I'll get traded" kind of way.
    Maybe they should grow up and stop sucking.

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    • Brankles
      Banned
      • May 2003
      • 5113

      #47
      Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

      Originally posted by Cebby
      That is absurd.
      Then why won't he shake hands with the Magic players? Put LeBron in a time machine, have him play the Lakers from the 80s or Bulls from the 90s, and I bet you he shakes Magic's and Jordan's after a loss. In that video Ehh posted of the end of the Magic game, I'm pretty sure I saw him shake Big O's hand on the way out towards the locker room. SBJ doesn't respect Dwight Howard. He doesn't need to congratulate the lesser Dwight Howard. He doesn't feel he's on his level. Dwight Howard doesn't deserve to touch the sweet shooting right hand of the Akron Assassin. LeBron takes D12 lightly.

      Maybe they should grow up and stop sucking.
      All hail the King

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      • dragon4ever
        Pro
        • Sep 2003
        • 735

        #48
        Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

        LeBron not shaking hands with the Magic players is bush league. I understand that he was upset, but he should have at least shown some respect regardless. I played high school sports and no matter what sport, we were taught by our coaches to always show a sign of respect to our opponents. It's the classy thing to do, even more-so in hands of defeat. It just shows good character and helps build good sportsmanship, which seems to be lacking in sports these days.

        Even MMA fighters after they royally get their *** beat show a sign of respect to their fellow competitor, which is much more on a grander scale than a basketball game. I like LeBron and think that he's the best player in NBA, but his lack of sportsmanship leaves a lot to be desired. Maybe all this criticism will make LeBron realise what he did was in bad judgement. I'm sure that he'll get his act together.
        Last edited by dragon4ever; 06-02-2009, 01:12 AM.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #49
          Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

          Brankles, no offense but you're not making any sense with what you're saying and this is coming from someone who ragged on Lebron almost all of the time but not for every single error and mistake he's made.

          SBJ doesn't respect Dwight Howard. He doesn't need to congratulate the lesser Dwight Howard. He doesn't feel he's on his level. Dwight Howard doesn't deserve to touch the sweet shooting right hand of the Akron Assassin. LeBron takes D12 lightly.
          One of the dumbest things i've read on here and I highly doubt Dwight is going to look at Lebron any differently because of this ONE ******* moment where he didn't shake his hand but ignore the other 20 times they did shake hands.

          We understand you don't like Lebron, as you made it known during the series, but I guess you felt the need to take a shot at him, every chance you get.

          Not only further disrespect of opponents, but of teammates as well. All of his teammates in Cleveland look scared of him, in a bad way. Not in a "you're our leader" type of way, but in a "if I have a falling out with you, I'll get traded" kind of way. This is also a sign he will take his opponents lightly because he doesn't think they're on his level.
          Keep reaching because that's all you're doing.

          Not to mention the shockwave he's sending throughout through his position as a role model and trend setter for children.
          Yes, all little kids will never shake hands with the other team again and will now drop out of school at age 9 and resort to selling drugs because the great "King James" did not want to shake hands with the opposing team.

          Man can the Finals hurry up and get here so folks actually have something IMPORTANT to talk about lol.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #50
            Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

            Oh and CV, I never not one time quoted any of your posts specially. I took what was being said by other posters as well and put it into one post.

            But if you can't have a discussion without labeling people(which you did in the other thread, which included labeling me twice)then it's probably best you just stop posting if you're going to keep doing that. If you wanna put me on ignore then be my guest, I just won't do that because I have a bigger issues to worry about then what someone is saying bad about me on a message board.

            Sorry to take this off topic but the other thread was locked for me to post in there.
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            • Brankles
              Banned
              • May 2003
              • 5113

              #51
              Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
              Brankles, no offense but you're not making any sense with what you're saying and this is coming from someone who ragged on Lebron almost all of the time but not for every single error and mistake he's made.
              Where have I hated on LeBron James? And how long has this been going on? It's news to me that I hate this guy.

              One of the dumbest things i've read on here and I highly doubt Dwight is going to look at Lebron any differently because of this ONE ******* moment where he didn't shake his hand but ignore the other 20 times they did shake hands.
              Dwight didn't like that LeBron did that. He said so in an interview. That alone is enough to tell you that Dwight looks at SBJ differently.

              We understand you don't like Lebron, as you made it known during the series, but I guess you felt the need to take a shot at him, every chance you get.
              Again, show me these times I've hated on LeBron throughout the series, before the playoffs, or in the entirety of his career. The only negative mention of LeBron I think I've ever made is about the fouls he got and what he did late Saturday night, only two days ago.

              Keep reaching because that's all you're doing.
              Reaching? That's ironic. See below.

              Yes, all little kids will never shake hands with the other team again and will now drop out of school at age 9 and resort to selling drugs because the great "King James" did not want to shake hands with the opposing team.

              Man can the Finals hurry up and get here so folks actually have something IMPORTANT to talk about lol.
              This is what you call a reach ^

              Clearly there's been an impact on kids already, as JBH3 mentioned in the Orl/Cle thread when his wife heard the children she teaches saying they would do the same thing LeBron did, not shake hands with the team that beat them. If it's happening in one classroom, it's happening in thousands. It's the idea that bad sportsmanship is a cool thing to do, that what LeBron did is no big deal.

              If you don't want to talk about it, fine. No need to twist my words, exaggerate them, then tell me I'm blowing it out of proportion. Never seen you act like that on here before. If you really think this discussion is below you, then simply don't get involved. It's that easy.

              As a guy that volunteer coaches youth, I try my best to teach my players 1) To always try to improve themselves, 2) Never give up on anything and 3) Show respect and good sportsmanship. Stuff like what LeBron did is very disappointing to see, and I hope the next group of kids I coach aren't going to be affected by his actions the way JBH's wife's students were. This is why this is important to me, and this is why I'm having this conversation with people.

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              • Bornindamecca
                Books Nelson Simnation
                • Jul 2007
                • 10919

                #52
                Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

                ^^^When you talk about coaching youth, this is where I really agree.

                Yes, it means a lot, because if you raise kids to be good sportsman, you have to now point at Lebron's actions as wrong. My little brother is ten years younger than me, and was one of the fastest kids in NYC in high school. When he lost a big race, he flat out couldn't handle it. I had to teach him how to lose, and how to use losing as a tool to make you more of a winner. I also had to teach him the value of honor and that losing happens to everyone, and that champions understand how to remain strong, and not lose their identity in defeat.

                So yeah, when someone tries to justify a lack of sportsmanship and honor, it's wrong to me. It doesn't make Lebron a bad person, but to me he is dead wrong.
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                • DC
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 17996

                  #53
                  Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

                  Why are some of you constantly saying that "Orlando doesn't care." And........so?
                  Concrete evidence/videos please

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                  • rockchisler
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 8290

                    #54
                    Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

                    His teammates congratulated the Magic, why not him.
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                    • KG
                      Welcome Back
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 17583

                      #55
                      Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

                      Originally posted by Altimus
                      However, seeing how him and Dwight are friends, he should have done something.

                      I remember in the High School championships my friend on the other team hit the buzzer beater against us and I just walked off the floor disgusted with my performance. Sometimes you just want to get away from it all.
                      IMO losing to a friend hurts much more. The fact that he's somewhat close to D12 has to make this hurt that much more. I'll give him LBJ a pass because he has handled the pressure very well from Day 1.

                      I don't get as up in arms over sportsmanship as some of ya'll do.
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                      • sportyguyfl31
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 4745

                        #56
                        Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

                        Originally posted by Cebby
                        Lebron was too good for college.

                        Had he gone to college, he would have outscored UCONN in the chip by himself.

                        No he wouldnt. College Baksetball is a different animal. The coach is the king, and he'd have some damn fool coach like Rick Barnes, insisting that he plays "within the system"

                        Plus there are all kinds of garbage, gimmick defense that you can play, and the referees arent intimidated by college kids.

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                        • JBH3
                          Marvel's Finest
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 13506

                          #57
                          Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

                          Originally posted by ehh
                          And the kicker of it all is that this is basically the only thing people can rip LeBron about.
                          NO...you're wrong, it's because he's held to a higher standard.

                          Whether or not you as an athlete want to take the Charles Barkley "I'm not a role model" is irrelevant to the fact that by DEFUALT you ARE a role model.

                          You HAVE a responsibility whether you decide to accept it or not.

                          We ALL have a responsibility as adults to be a role-model for children, not just OUR OWN. If you fail to realize that then you are part of the problem as well.

                          As a Marine I was always held to a higher standard than other servicemen. It wasn't my choice, it was because of my responisbility to the Corps, it's virtues, and the people of this great nation. The same concept is given to us as adults, and to those in positions such as Lebron.

                          It's your responsiblity whether you like it or not, and whether you decide accept it or not; and quite a few chose to NOT accept it - which is why this country is spiraling into a ME ME ME society and there is no community.

                          Lebron, being an even more polarizing figure, has a enormous amount of responsibility. Jordan understood this, other great athletes did, and they were positive role-models; at least during our childhood.

                          Having walked off the court is one thing, BUT THEN to make a statement to the media basically reinterating he believes himself to be right and seemingly justifying his actions w/ some BS about being a competitor...is "THE KICKER".

                          Sending a freaking email to congratulate Dwight? That's a bitch move. You confront the man who just defeated you w/ humility, and you show him the proper respect. You take that inside, hold on to that feeling of defeat, and unleash it the next time you face off.

                          You don't storm off the court, talking to no one if you're presumably the face of the franchise, and then days later make statements about how "I'm a winner, I'm a competitor"...So what? Dwight isn't? Countless others aren't? What the guys who shake hands are sissy's?

                          It's funny how some are trying to justify it that way as if to make themselves feel better because they're what? Essentially the that Lebron has proven to be? ....TWICE.


                          Originally posted by Moses Shuttlesworth
                          Court_vision, that's a damn good article.
                          Yes...it was. And who cares who wrote it, and what their track record is (as Ehh so pointed out). It doesn't diffuse the article as being any less true.

                          Originally posted by Court_vision
                          All season, the Cavaliers acted too entitled, too arrogant for a team that’s won nothing. They ran out demanding that Mo Williams(notes) be made an All-Star, when the truth bore itself out in the playoffs: Cleveland has one All-Star. Nevertheless, Williams still embarrassed the Cavs with foolish proclamations and guarantees his middling talent couldn’t deliver.

                          Nevertheless, James distanced himself in losing again, after a season in which he sold himself as all for one, and one for all. James had been an MVP until the very final moments of the basketball season, and then, he embarrassed himself and acted like a petulant kid. In a world where everyone in his life is too fearful or too dependent, LeBron James goes into the summer believing his own nonsense that he walked out of this season a winner.

                          As usual, there’s no one to tell him.

                          Except maybe now, Kobe’s puppet.
                          Those two paragraphs are very good.

                          "I'm a Witness."

                          Originally posted by Brankles
                          You know what's blown out of proportion? The number of people who are saying "this is blown out of proportion."
                          Agreed.

                          Originally posted by Cebby
                          Of course Lebron left the playoffs a loser. So will all but 12 players.
                          Dur de Dur.

                          Originally posted by Hawaii_Stars
                          I am surprised of James actions after the loss. I thought he was better than what he has showed. Like they say, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. He knew his team was going to lose with time running out, he could have at least walked past his "friend" Dwight Howard and said something if he didn't want to shake his hand. Still he had another opportunity to right his wrong action. But he didn't address the media after the game. I suppose he let his teammates out to dry to face the media as he feels they left him out to dry. Then the next day, when you think he'd come to his senses about what he did, he justifies himself. Then he says he emailed Dwight. A frecking email, are you kidding me? You telling me he couldn't pick up the phone and say it to him? That is being a coward to me. I hope LeBron never gets a title with his attitude. Maybe one day he will grow up and be a man on the inside, instead of just looking like one.
                          That just is laughable IMO, and the folks dismissing Lebron see nothing wrong in that? Nothing "female"?

                          Originally posted by DCAllAmerican
                          Why are some of you constantly saying that "Orlando doesn't care." And........so?
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                          Last edited by JBH3; 06-02-2009, 07:42 AM.
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                          • KG
                            Welcome Back
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 17583

                            #58
                            Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

                            Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                            No he wouldnt. College Baksetball is a different animal. The coach is the king, and he'd have some damn fool coach like Rick Barnes, insisting that he plays "within the system"

                            Plus there are all kinds of garbage, gimmick defense that you can play, and the referees arent intimidated by college kids.
                            This isn't 1985 anymore.

                            Look at what Durant did at Texas in your psuedo "college system". Lebron competed at a near all-star level his rookie year playing the world's best. You are probably alone thinking that he wouldn't have dominated amateur athletes.
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                            • sportyguyfl31
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 4745

                              #59
                              Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

                              Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                              ^^^When you talk about coaching youth, this is where I really agree.

                              So yeah, when someone tries to justify a lack of sportsmanship and honor, it's wrong to me. It doesn't make Lebron a bad person, but to me he is dead wrong.

                              I agree with this. I dont dislike LEbron, or think he's "bad", but I think he slipped up here. That's all.

                              Like I said a few pages back, I honestly think that he got more and more caught up in himself as the series went on, and with sycophants like Stuart Scott, constantly on bended knee.

                              He began talking and acting, as if he was the world revolved around him, and I think he got himself off center and out of character.

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                              • sportyguyfl31
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 4745

                                #60
                                Re: How do you feel about congratulating your opponent after a loss?

                                Originally posted by kgx2thez
                                This isn't 1985 anymore.

                                Look at what Durant did at Texas in your psuedo "college system". Lebron competed at a near all-star level his rookie year playing the world's best. You are probably alone thinking that he wouldn't have dominated amateur athletes.

                                Oh, he would have put up numbers, That's not what I meant.

                                It's more of, there is no way to say he would have just blitzed through a college season and won a championship, the way college basketball is, Heck, Durant and Beasley didnt get past the 2nd round.

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