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  • ZB9
    Hall Of Fame
    • Nov 2004
    • 18387

    #1

    All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)




    First Team:
    G: Kobe Bryant 88.2
    G: Chauncey Billups 76.1
    F: Dirk Nowitzki 95.4
    F: Tim Duncan 91.5
    C: Shaquille O’Neal 86.1

    2nd Team:
    G: Steve Nash 70.0
    G: Ray Allen 66.3
    F: Kevin Garnett 86.8
    F: LeBron James 76.9
    C: Ben Wallace 60.8

    3rd team:
    G: Tracy McGrady 63.4
    G: Jason Kidd 59.5
    F: Shawn Marion 72.4
    F: Paul Pierce 69.1
    C: Amare Stoudemire 54.1

    what do ya'll think of their list and the formulas used to make it?...what would your list look like?
    Last edited by ZB9; 07-25-2009, 03:14 PM.
  • Cebby
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    • Apr 2005
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    #2
    Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

    Terrible formula

    Kidd being third team and AI not listed is horrible

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    • ProjectRipCity
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      • Aug 2008
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      #3
      Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

      Kidd should be on the first...As much as I do not like KG he deserves to be past Dirk. Abysmal.

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      • ex carrabba fan
        I'll thank him for you
        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #4
        Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

        I refuse to believe Ben Wallace is a top 15 all decade player.

        Pau>Wallace period

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        • Cebby
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          • Apr 2005
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          #5
          Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

          I have crafted my own formula that looks much better.

          It is a 6 point scale.

          6 points for MVP (Finals and regular season)
          5 points for each first team All NBA appearance
          4 points for being a top 3 player on a championship team (use discretion)
          3 points for each second team All NBA appearance, being a top 3 player on a runner up, or DPOTY
          2 points for top 3 player on a WCF team, 3rd team All NBA, or first team All Defense
          1 point for All Star appearance, 2nd team All Defense, or being a top 3 player on an ECF team

          Add them up and divide the total score by 37 (to make it look scientific)

          My list looks much, much better (I obviously didn't do everyone, so there could be someone I didn't calculate for)

          Just the guards for now

          1. Kobe 2.729
          2. Nash 1.405
          3. Kidd 1.270
          4. AI 1.081
          5. Billups 0.865
          6. Wade 0.811
          7. TMac 0.757
          8. Parker 0.730
          9. Allen 0.514
          10. Manu 0.351

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          • ZB9
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            • Nov 2004
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            #6
            Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

            Originally posted by ProjectRipCity
            Kidd should be on the first...As much as I do not like KG he deserves to be past Dirk. Abysmal.
            why does KG deserve to be past Dirk?

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            • ZB9
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              • Nov 2004
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              #7
              Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
              I refuse to believe Ben Wallace is a top 15 all decade player.

              Pau>Wallace period
              Pau is a much better player than Wallace right now and has been for the past few seasons obviously. He's probably always been a better player, but throughout the decade Wallace had pretty large regular season and playoff WS% numbers. Gasol's WS numbers were hurt being on the Grizzlies obviously.
              Last edited by ZB9; 07-25-2009, 04:16 PM.

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              • Cebby
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                • Apr 2005
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                #8
                Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

                Originally posted by ZB9
                why does KG deserve to be past Dirk?
                The defense puts him over the top

                KG 2.000
                Dirk 1.405

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                • ZB9
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Nov 2004
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                  #9
                  Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

                  Originally posted by Cebby
                  I have crafted my own formula that looks much better.

                  It is a 6 point scale.

                  6 points for MVP (Finals and regular season)
                  5 points for each first team All NBA appearance
                  4 points for being a top 3 player on a championship team (use discretion)
                  3 points for each second team All NBA appearance, being a top 3 player on a runner up, or DPOTY
                  2 points for top 3 player on a WCF team, 3rd team All NBA, or first team All Defense
                  1 point for All Star appearance, 2nd team All Defense, or being a top 3 player on an ECF team

                  Add them up and divide the total score by 37 (to make it look scientific)

                  My list looks much, much better (I obviously didn't do everyone, so there could be someone I didn't calculate for)

                  Just the guards for now

                  1. Kobe 2.729
                  2. Nash 1.405
                  3. Kidd 1.270
                  4. AI 1.081
                  5. Billups 0.865
                  6. Wade 0.811
                  7. TMac 0.757
                  8. Parker 0.730
                  9. Allen 0.514
                  10. Manu 0.351
                  seems like a good formula Ceb

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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #10
                    Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

                    Originally posted by ZB9
                    Pau is better than Wallace right now and for the past three seasons obviously...but throughout the decade Wallace had pretty large regular season and playoff WS% numbers
                    Pau was always right there with Wallace in terms of overall ability.

                    Wallace has put up large rebounding numbers.
                    Pau has put up good to great numbers scoring and rebounding wise.

                    Pau led a Grizzlie team to the playoffs 3 straight seasons with 50, 45 and 49 win seasons. The Grizzlies. The fact that they were swept out doesn't help his case of course, but just by getting into the playoffs in a hard West says something.

                    Both have titles.

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                    • AlexBrady
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3341

                      #11
                      Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

                      Originally posted by ZB9
                      why does KG deserve to be past Dirk?
                      KG is the far better perimeter and post defender. KG is a better and more willing passer. KG is a primal attacker on the backboards. Dirk is the better scorer, free throw shooter, and 3 point shooter. Neither has a killer instinct and neither has done much in the clutch. Although, Nowitzki could easily have a ring if he played with Allen and Pierce (since they have the killer instinct Dirk lacks). Garnett is the more well rounded player in my estimation and is therefore better suited to be a member of a championship team.
                      Last edited by AlexBrady; 07-25-2009, 04:22 PM.

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                      • ZB9
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                        #12
                        Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

                        Originally posted by Cebby
                        The defense puts him over the top

                        KG 2.000
                        Dirk 1.405
                        too bad that defense didnt work when Garnett was going against Dirk in the playoffs

                        I can see what you are saying though. There is certainly a valid argument for KG over Dirk, especially now that KG got a championship...I just want to hear reasons

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                        • ProjectRipCity
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                          #13
                          Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

                          Originally posted by AlexBrady
                          KG is the far better perimeter and post defender. KG is a better and more willing passer. KG is a primal attacker on the backboards. Dirk is the better scorer, free throw shooter, and 3 point shooter. Neither has a killer instinct and neither has done much in the clutch. Although, Nowitzki could easily have a ring if he played with Allen and Pierce (since they have the killer instinct Dirk lacks). Garnett is the more well rounded player in my estimation and is therefore better suited to be a member of a championship team.
                          Thanks for answering the question for me. lol.

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                          • ProjectRipCity
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                            #14
                            Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

                            Originally posted by ZB9
                            too bad that defense didnt work when Garnett was going against Dirk in the playoffs

                            I can see what you are saying though. There is certainly a valid argument for KG over Dirk, especially now that KG got a championship...I just want to hear reasons
                            Better defensively. Period. Dirk is slightly better than KG offensively...And he spreads out the defense. But KG's defense is just as important as offense. So yeah he is the better player.

                            Personally I would rather have Dirk because he is not a ignorant taunting fool. But there is no doubt KG is better than Dirk.

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                            • ZB9
                              Hall Of Fame
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                              #15
                              Re: All Decade Team, the 2000s (basketball-reference.com)

                              Originally posted by AlexBrady
                              Neither has a killer instinct and neither has done much in the clutch.
                              lol I have no idea where you get that BS Alex.

                              If Dirk hasnt been clutch in his career, then there havent been many "clutch" players in the league.

                              why dont you list some players that have been more clutch than Dirk. There shouldnt be more than a handful on your list
                              Last edited by ZB9; 07-25-2009, 04:40 PM.

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