Jason Kidd is overrated

**Programmed2Kill** · 06-11-2003, 04:02 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

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Listen, I know you guys hate AI because he’s a black man from the hood and represents that. I can understand you not liking him because of his practice habits and his off the court antics but, to this discredit him, for what he brings to the floor, on the court is plain and blatantly wrong. But if your gonna say some one is better than him, at least say someone that is worth an argument is better than him. Someone like KG, TD, or even Kobe, but Dirk???? Come on you got to be kidding me, he has Finley and Nash and still can’t get to the Finals. Give the little man credit, he’s the only one out of this list to take a team of bench players to the finals. There’s no argument in saying Dirk is better because everyone in this forum, including you know deep down that, that isn’t true.

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............oh my God.

**ZigZag** · 06-11-2003, 04:10 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

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Listen, I know you guys hate AI because he&#8217;s a black man from the hood and represents that. I can understand you not liking him because of his practice habits and his off the court antics but, to this discredit him, for what he brings to the floor, on the court is plain and blatantly wrong. But if your gonna say some one is better than him, at least say someone that is worth an argument is better than him. Someone like KG, TD, or even Kobe, but Dirk???? Come on you got to be kidding me, he has Finley and Nash and still can&#8217;t get to the Finals. Give the little man credit, he&#8217;s the only one out of this list to take a team of bench players to the finals. There&#8217;s no argument in saying Dirk is better because everyone in this forum, including you know deep down that, that isn&#8217;t true.

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Man no one is hating on iverson cause hes balck or hes from the hood. Its just that other people do have different opinions than you. I personally think Iverson is the better player right now but i think Dirk has a brighter future. All that pounding Iverson takes is bound to cathch up to him sooner or later and that might shorten his career. Dirk is 24 and still has not entered his prime. There are a lot of years for him improve and who else in the NBA creates as many mismatch problems than Dirk. For a 7 foor guy who can shoot and dribble like a shooting guard is pretty damn good. Dirk does need to really improve his defense but give him some time before saying he sucks. if u actually watch some Dallas games when he really tries to shut another guy down he usually succeeds. Dirk was also clutch in the playoffs leading his team to victory in both game 7s.

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I’m not saying Nowitzki sucks, I’m just saying right now, he’s not better than AI.

**ZigZag** · 06-11-2003, 04:10 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

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Listen, I know you guys hate AI because he&#8217;s a black man from the hood and represents that. I can understand you not liking him because of his practice habits and his off the court antics but, to this discredit him, for what he brings to the floor, on the court is plain and blatantly wrong. But if your gonna say some one is better than him, at least say someone that is worth an argument is better than him. Someone like KG, TD, or even Kobe, but Dirk???? Come on you got to be kidding me, he has Finley and Nash and still can&#8217;t get to the Finals. Give the little man credit, he&#8217;s the only one out of this list to take a team of bench players to the finals. There&#8217;s no argument in saying Dirk is better because everyone in this forum, including you know deep down that, that isn&#8217;t true.

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Man no one is hating on iverson cause hes balck or hes from the hood. Its just that other people do have different opinions than you. I personally think Iverson is the better player right now but i think Dirk has a brighter future. All that pounding Iverson takes is bound to cathch up to him sooner or later and that might shorten his career. Dirk is 24 and still has not entered his prime. There are a lot of years for him improve and who else in the NBA creates as many mismatch problems than Dirk. For a 7 foor guy who can shoot and dribble like a shooting guard is pretty damn good. Dirk does need to really improve his defense but give him some time before saying he sucks. if u actually watch some Dallas games when he really tries to shut another guy down he usually succeeds. Dirk was also clutch in the playoffs leading his team to victory in both game 7s.

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I’m not saying Nowitzki sucks, I’m just saying right now, he’s not better than AI.

**ZigZag** · 06-11-2003, 04:10 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

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Listen, I know you guys hate AI because he&#8217;s a black man from the hood and represents that. I can understand you not liking him because of his practice habits and his off the court antics but, to this discredit him, for what he brings to the floor, on the court is plain and blatantly wrong. But if your gonna say some one is better than him, at least say someone that is worth an argument is better than him. Someone like KG, TD, or even Kobe, but Dirk???? Come on you got to be kidding me, he has Finley and Nash and still can&#8217;t get to the Finals. Give the little man credit, he&#8217;s the only one out of this list to take a team of bench players to the finals. There&#8217;s no argument in saying Dirk is better because everyone in this forum, including you know deep down that, that isn&#8217;t true.

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Man no one is hating on iverson cause hes balck or hes from the hood. Its just that other people do have different opinions than you. I personally think Iverson is the better player right now but i think Dirk has a brighter future. All that pounding Iverson takes is bound to cathch up to him sooner or later and that might shorten his career. Dirk is 24 and still has not entered his prime. There are a lot of years for him improve and who else in the NBA creates as many mismatch problems than Dirk. For a 7 foor guy who can shoot and dribble like a shooting guard is pretty damn good. Dirk does need to really improve his defense but give him some time before saying he sucks. if u actually watch some Dallas games when he really tries to shut another guy down he usually succeeds. Dirk was also clutch in the playoffs leading his team to victory in both game 7s.

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I’m not saying Nowitzki sucks, I’m just saying right now, he’s not better than AI.

**KillRoy** · 06-11-2003, 04:14 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

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How did this thread become a public lashing of Iverson?? What the hell!?!?!? Iverson would of won a championship with the Nets squad, because they actually have talent. And who said AI couldn&#8217;t do squat when he&#8217;s not scoring?? Nowitzki 41 did you watched that game when AI was struggling against Detroit and almost had a triple double??? I guess not, and also at least AI, can score, even if his jumper isn&#8217;t going for him, Kidd was missing lay-ups!! It&#8217;s good that teams watch AI, because it makes him dishing the ball under the basket that much easier. If Iverson had people to pass to like Jefferson and Kmart he would have been won a championship. Iverson contributes a lot. Iverson contributes in scoring, passing, and steals. I feel that Iverson couldn&#8217;t do just as good if not better with the Nets as Kidd did. Hell, this guy took a bunch of bench players to the finals!!!!! And he can&#8217;t do better???? Go watch an actual game with Iverson playing before judging him and calling him a ball hog. What kills me is that this guy Nowitzki41 says he&#8217;s a ballhog but yet in these playoffs Iverson is number 4 in assist per game and averages more asst. than Steve Nash.

I will take Iverson over kid ANYDAY..

AI can get 30 pts. without taking 25 shot attempts..

Saying that Kidd is a top 5 player in the league is overrating him, and if AI played PG he would be the #1 PG in the league.

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how would Iverson be the #1 point guard in the league? just because he scores more

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actually iverson played PG when he first came into the league. and the coach figured out all he wants to do is shoot the ball so they moved him to the 2 spot.

and i was joking about iverson (just trying to get a rise out of someone) i think he is a very good player.

**KillRoy** · 06-11-2003, 04:14 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

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How did this thread become a public lashing of Iverson?? What the hell!?!?!? Iverson would of won a championship with the Nets squad, because they actually have talent. And who said AI couldn&#8217;t do squat when he&#8217;s not scoring?? Nowitzki 41 did you watched that game when AI was struggling against Detroit and almost had a triple double??? I guess not, and also at least AI, can score, even if his jumper isn&#8217;t going for him, Kidd was missing lay-ups!! It&#8217;s good that teams watch AI, because it makes him dishing the ball under the basket that much easier. If Iverson had people to pass to like Jefferson and Kmart he would have been won a championship. Iverson contributes a lot. Iverson contributes in scoring, passing, and steals. I feel that Iverson couldn&#8217;t do just as good if not better with the Nets as Kidd did. Hell, this guy took a bunch of bench players to the finals!!!!! And he can&#8217;t do better???? Go watch an actual game with Iverson playing before judging him and calling him a ball hog. What kills me is that this guy Nowitzki41 says he&#8217;s a ballhog but yet in these playoffs Iverson is number 4 in assist per game and averages more asst. than Steve Nash.

I will take Iverson over kid ANYDAY..

AI can get 30 pts. without taking 25 shot attempts..

Saying that Kidd is a top 5 player in the league is overrating him, and if AI played PG he would be the #1 PG in the league.

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how would Iverson be the #1 point guard in the league? just because he scores more

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actually iverson played PG when he first came into the league. and the coach figured out all he wants to do is shoot the ball so they moved him to the 2 spot.

and i was joking about iverson (just trying to get a rise out of someone) i think he is a very good player.

**KillRoy** · 06-11-2003, 04:14 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

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How did this thread become a public lashing of Iverson?? What the hell!?!?!? Iverson would of won a championship with the Nets squad, because they actually have talent. And who said AI couldn&#8217;t do squat when he&#8217;s not scoring?? Nowitzki 41 did you watched that game when AI was struggling against Detroit and almost had a triple double??? I guess not, and also at least AI, can score, even if his jumper isn&#8217;t going for him, Kidd was missing lay-ups!! It&#8217;s good that teams watch AI, because it makes him dishing the ball under the basket that much easier. If Iverson had people to pass to like Jefferson and Kmart he would have been won a championship. Iverson contributes a lot. Iverson contributes in scoring, passing, and steals. I feel that Iverson couldn&#8217;t do just as good if not better with the Nets as Kidd did. Hell, this guy took a bunch of bench players to the finals!!!!! And he can&#8217;t do better???? Go watch an actual game with Iverson playing before judging him and calling him a ball hog. What kills me is that this guy Nowitzki41 says he&#8217;s a ballhog but yet in these playoffs Iverson is number 4 in assist per game and averages more asst. than Steve Nash.

I will take Iverson over kid ANYDAY..

AI can get 30 pts. without taking 25 shot attempts..

Saying that Kidd is a top 5 player in the league is overrating him, and if AI played PG he would be the #1 PG in the league.

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how would Iverson be the #1 point guard in the league? just because he scores more

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actually iverson played PG when he first came into the league. and the coach figured out all he wants to do is shoot the ball so they moved him to the 2 spot.

and i was joking about iverson (just trying to get a rise out of someone) i think he is a very good player.

**KillRoy** · 06-11-2003, 04:20 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

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Listen, I know you guys hate AI because he&#8217;s a black man from the hood and represents that. I can understand you not liking him because of his practice habits and his off the court antics but, to this discredit him, for what he brings to the floor, on the court is plain and blatantly wrong. But if your gonna say some one is better than him, at least say someone that is worth an argument is better than him. Someone like KG, TD, or even Kobe, but Dirk???? Come on you got to be kidding me, he has Finley and Nash and still can&#8217;t get to the Finals. Give the little man credit, he&#8217;s the only one out of this list to take a team of bench players to the finals. There&#8217;s no argument in saying Dirk is better because everyone in this forum, including you know deep down that, that isn&#8217;t true.

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Man no one is hating on iverson cause hes balck or hes from the hood. Its just that other people do have different opinions than you. I personally think Iverson is the better player right now but i think Dirk has a brighter future. All that pounding Iverson takes is bound to cathch up to him sooner or later and that might shorten his career. Dirk is 24 and still has not entered his prime. There are a lot of years for him improve and who else in the NBA creates as many mismatch problems than Dirk. For a 7 foor guy who can shoot and dribble like a shooting guard is pretty damn good. Dirk does need to really improve his defense but give him some time before saying he sucks. if u actually watch some Dallas games when he really tries to shut another guy down he usually succeeds. Dirk was also clutch in the playoffs leading his team to victory in both game 7s.

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I’m not saying Nowitzki sucks, I’m just saying right now, he’s not better than AI.

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i`ll tell you what... if i HAD TO choose between iverson and nowitski right now... i would choose Dirk, cuz he is much more difficult to match up against than iverson. iverson`s got good speed but at times he is very inconsistent. dirk is a more complete player than iverson.

**KillRoy** · 06-11-2003, 04:20 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

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Listen, I know you guys hate AI because he&#8217;s a black man from the hood and represents that. I can understand you not liking him because of his practice habits and his off the court antics but, to this discredit him, for what he brings to the floor, on the court is plain and blatantly wrong. But if your gonna say some one is better than him, at least say someone that is worth an argument is better than him. Someone like KG, TD, or even Kobe, but Dirk???? Come on you got to be kidding me, he has Finley and Nash and still can&#8217;t get to the Finals. Give the little man credit, he&#8217;s the only one out of this list to take a team of bench players to the finals. There&#8217;s no argument in saying Dirk is better because everyone in this forum, including you know deep down that, that isn&#8217;t true.

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Man no one is hating on iverson cause hes balck or hes from the hood. Its just that other people do have different opinions than you. I personally think Iverson is the better player right now but i think Dirk has a brighter future. All that pounding Iverson takes is bound to cathch up to him sooner or later and that might shorten his career. Dirk is 24 and still has not entered his prime. There are a lot of years for him improve and who else in the NBA creates as many mismatch problems than Dirk. For a 7 foor guy who can shoot and dribble like a shooting guard is pretty damn good. Dirk does need to really improve his defense but give him some time before saying he sucks. if u actually watch some Dallas games when he really tries to shut another guy down he usually succeeds. Dirk was also clutch in the playoffs leading his team to victory in both game 7s.

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I’m not saying Nowitzki sucks, I’m just saying right now, he’s not better than AI.

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i`ll tell you what... if i HAD TO choose between iverson and nowitski right now... i would choose Dirk, cuz he is much more difficult to match up against than iverson. iverson`s got good speed but at times he is very inconsistent. dirk is a more complete player than iverson.

**KillRoy** · 06-11-2003, 04:20 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

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Listen, I know you guys hate AI because he&#8217;s a black man from the hood and represents that. I can understand you not liking him because of his practice habits and his off the court antics but, to this discredit him, for what he brings to the floor, on the court is plain and blatantly wrong. But if your gonna say some one is better than him, at least say someone that is worth an argument is better than him. Someone like KG, TD, or even Kobe, but Dirk???? Come on you got to be kidding me, he has Finley and Nash and still can&#8217;t get to the Finals. Give the little man credit, he&#8217;s the only one out of this list to take a team of bench players to the finals. There&#8217;s no argument in saying Dirk is better because everyone in this forum, including you know deep down that, that isn&#8217;t true.

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Man no one is hating on iverson cause hes balck or hes from the hood. Its just that other people do have different opinions than you. I personally think Iverson is the better player right now but i think Dirk has a brighter future. All that pounding Iverson takes is bound to cathch up to him sooner or later and that might shorten his career. Dirk is 24 and still has not entered his prime. There are a lot of years for him improve and who else in the NBA creates as many mismatch problems than Dirk. For a 7 foor guy who can shoot and dribble like a shooting guard is pretty damn good. Dirk does need to really improve his defense but give him some time before saying he sucks. if u actually watch some Dallas games when he really tries to shut another guy down he usually succeeds. Dirk was also clutch in the playoffs leading his team to victory in both game 7s.

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I’m not saying Nowitzki sucks, I’m just saying right now, he’s not better than AI.

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i`ll tell you what... if i HAD TO choose between iverson and nowitski right now... i would choose Dirk, cuz he is much more difficult to match up against than iverson. iverson`s got good speed but at times he is very inconsistent. dirk is a more complete player than iverson.

**ShaKobe** · 06-11-2003, 04:25 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

Same here. I would pick Dirk. That's not saying AI is bad or anything, but it's just that Dirk is much harder to defend against. Both are great players tho.

**ShaKobe** · 06-11-2003, 04:25 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

Same here. I would pick Dirk. That's not saying AI is bad or anything, but it's just that Dirk is much harder to defend against. Both are great players tho.

**ShaKobe** · 06-11-2003, 04:25 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

Same here. I would pick Dirk. That's not saying AI is bad or anything, but it's just that Dirk is much harder to defend against. Both are great players tho.

**scbond3** · 06-11-2003, 06:30 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

I looks like to me the only reason you are a AI fan is because he is black and from the "hood". That's why he gets away with so much here in the philly area anyway. No matter what AI does,its everyone elses fault. All I remember, is with 14 SECONDS in game 6 against the pistons, AI could not beat Tayshawn Prince off the dribble to create a shot and instead ended up passing it to DC with no time on the clock. AI has a hard time scoring when everyone knows he is going to shoot it.

**scbond3** · 06-11-2003, 06:30 PM

Re: Jason Kidd is overrated

I looks like to me the only reason you are a AI fan is because he is black and from the "hood". That's why he gets away with so much here in the philly area anyway. No matter what AI does,its everyone elses fault. All I remember, is with 14 SECONDS in game 6 against the pistons, AI could not beat Tayshawn Prince off the dribble to create a shot and instead ended up passing it to DC with no time on the clock. AI has a hard time scoring when everyone knows he is going to shoot it.

Jason Kidd is overrated

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