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  • Brankles
    Banned
    • May 2003
    • 5113

    #286
    Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

    Originally posted by o_capone
    how is your opinion any more right than my opinion? just because you think you are right?
    What world do you live in where it's acceptable to undermine your leader and coach at the very first instance of adversity? Where it's better to go behind their back than talk to them man to man? Where an opinion of one small situation has higher priority than teammates and the organization?

    I dunno if you played organized sports or not before, but this is frowned upon at every level. From under-8 basketball to the NBA to 50-and-up church leagues. This is looked down as both a business practice and as a social norm. The only reason people may think this is acceptable is just because they don't know any better and they don't understand how to handle challenges at this level.

    What AI did was last resort. It's something you might hear from a player 2 games out of the playoffs with 4 games left, after a season of the coach not listening or adjusting. It's what you might hear from a player on a team that's up 3-2 in the playoffs that just dropped game six. This is not something you hear from a player in the third game of the season on a rebuilding team that is looking for leadership. Frustration and whiny-ness of this level should not be occurring one week into the season from a veteran of Iverson's caliber.

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    • o_capone
      Banned
      • Apr 2009
      • 1270

      #287
      Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

      what world to you live in where you are convinced that your opinion is "right" and someone elses is "wrong" in a situation where neither person can be proved right or wrong?

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      • P2K
        Banned
        • Aug 2006
        • 8845

        #288
        Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

        Beating Around The Bush 101

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        • J.R. Locke
          Banned
          • Nov 2004
          • 4137

          #289
          Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

          For all you people that think AI just has people that "hate on him" you are missing all the people that love the dude.

          He is polarizing. People love or hate him. He is an iconoclast. He is someone that so profoundly changed the NBA that there is no doubt that people are going to have a strong opinion about him, one way or the other.

          But the issue isn't about what Iverson was, it is what he is now and more importantly what he means to the Memphis Grizzlies. Unfortunately Iverson doesn't get that and that is where a lot of the criticism comes from.

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          • Brankles
            Banned
            • May 2003
            • 5113

            #290
            Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

            Originally posted by o_capone
            what world to you live in where you are convinced that your opinion is "right" and someone elses is "wrong" in a situation wherand ae neither person can be proved right or wrong?
            I live in the real world where social and communication skills matter.

            There is no worse reaction to this situation that what Allen Iverson did. If you can name something worse than what AI did after his first game as a Grizzly that is not a mass murder-suicide, I would be surprised. Therefore, your defense of Allen Iverson's actions is wrong.

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            • o_capone
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 1270

              #291
              Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

              Originally posted by Brankles
              I live in the real world where social and communication skills matter.

              There is no worse reaction to this situation that what Allen Iverson did. If you can name something worse than what AI did after his first game as a Grizzly that is not a mass murder-suicide, I would be surprised. Therefore, your defense of Allen Iverson's actions is wrong.
              lmao... no worse reaction? i can think of plenty things he could have done that's worse then say his butt hurts and he wants to play...

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              • Brankles
                Banned
                • May 2003
                • 5113

                #292
                Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                Originally posted by o_capone
                lmao... no worse reaction? i can think of plenty things he could have done that's worse then say his butt hurts and he wants to play...
                Have you played organized sports before? Serious question.

                If yes, would you have done what Iverson did?

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                • o_capone
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1270

                  #293
                  Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                  Originally posted by Brankles
                  Have you played organized sports before? Serious question.

                  If yes, would you have done what Iverson did?
                  yes I have played organized sports... but that has nothing to do with this...

                  if you are being interviewed, say whatever you wanna say that won't get you fined... i am all for it... to you what he did is SOOOOOO bad... to me it's nothing, not a big deal... obviously the difference of opinion here will cause us to never agree on this subject... talking about playing time is not a forbidden topic... he didn't get fined or suspended for conduct detrimental to the team... he didn't alienate anyone... all he did is make it clear he wants to be playing...

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                  • Brankles
                    Banned
                    • May 2003
                    • 5113

                    #294
                    Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                    There's more than being right or wrong in life and a lot of people don't understand that. Iverson is one of those people and will attempt to be right at the expense of everyone around him.

                    I usually agree to disagree, but this isn't one of those cases. I don't see anything acceptable with what Iverson did.

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                    • o_capone
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1270

                      #295
                      Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                      Originally posted by Brankles
                      There's more than being right or wrong in life and a lot of people don't understand that. Iverson is one of those people and will attempt to be right at the expense of everyone around him.

                      I usually agree to disagree, but this isn't one of those cases. I don't see anything acceptable with what Iverson did.
                      yea man... sounds like u have some resentments you need to let go of... i don't see why it's such a big deal to you...

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                      • Brankles
                        Banned
                        • May 2003
                        • 5113

                        #296
                        Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                        Originally posted by o_capone
                        yea man... sounds like u have some resentments you need to let go of... i don't see why it's such a big deal to you...
                        lol I can say the same thing

                        Why are you defending this guy tooth and nail for actions that are selfish and detrimental to his team?

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                        • o_capone
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1270

                          #297
                          Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                          Originally posted by Brankles
                          lol I can say the same thing

                          Why are you defending this guy tooth and nail for actions that are selfish and detrimental to his team?
                          the media and guys on forums are making it bigger than it really is... guys get fined for doing things that are detrimental, even suspended... those things were never even an issue for what iverson said... he is being crucified not by his team, but by the media and other people outside of the organization... even the coach said allen has the right to say whatever he wants about his playing time...

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                          • P2K
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 8845

                            #298
                            Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                            Originally posted by o_capone
                            the media and guys on forums are making it bigger than it really is... guys get fined for doing things that are detrimental, even suspended... those things were never even an issue for what iverson said... he is being crucified not by his team, but by the media and other people outside of the organization... even the coach said allen has the right to say whatever he wants about his playing time...


                            .........yeah.



                            **unsubscribes**

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                            • Vince
                              Bow for Bau
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 26017

                              #299
                              Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                              Developping MCJr is essential to the Grizz being a playoff team. They picked him too high for him to just be second fiddle to A.I.

                              Who cares if Iverson is mad already.
                              @ me or dap me

                              http://twitter.com/52isthemike

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                              • o_capone
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 1270

                                #300
                                Re: Guess who already sounds upset in Memphis

                                Originally posted by Vince
                                Developping MCJr is essential to the Grizz being a playoff team. They picked him too high for him to just be second fiddle to A.I.

                                Who cares if Iverson is mad already.
                                his future does not look so bright.... they should have used that second pick on one of the many point guards who were available, and never signed Iverson...

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