Brandon Jennings is the Truth

[sportyguyfl31]

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But Imagine if the Knicks had Jennings now. I know alot of players would want to play with him not some big man named Jordan Hill. Lets face who do the Knicks have right now to lore anybody to MSG. Maybe Gallinari but thats about it.

So what if the Knicks had him now?

They may be a 20-25win team, instead of a 15-20 win. Yippee.

Some kid isnt going to entice anyone, $$$ will.


Next year, if the Knicks do their job right, he'd have to learn to adjust to being a 3rd wheel behind 2 all star type players.

Now if the Knicks are sitting here, next season with Jermaine O'Neal, Tracy McGrady, and Eddie House on their roster...forget I said anything.

I'll be storming MSG with pitchfork and torch, along with every other Knick fan in america.

Jennings looks like he is going to be at worst "good"..but I have a hard time getting excited about random scoring explosions, especially early in a nba season.

Ive seen too many of them, by guys who are average players, or who we barely ever hear from again.

Jamal Crawford, and his 3 50 point games

Todd Day's 30 point half

Flip Murray averaging 24 a game when Ray Allen was recovering from surgery.

and on, and on, and on.

Give him a pat on the back, and some props, but lets not do any anointing quite yet.

[PrettyT11]

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I guess some people value points more than others.

I would take 30+ points and 9 asts with a win over a title contender over 55 points against a team that has obviously mailed it in anyday.

But that wasn't the case in that game. That game was tight all the way to the end. It wasn't like he was just running up the score in a blowout. They needed every one of those 55 points to get the win. So he put his team on his back and took them to a victory. That is more impressive.

[o_capone]

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You can't simply look at stats and determine who's a distributor or a scorer. Iverson has averaged over 7 assists in 5 separate seasons...I guess he's more of a distributor as well.

Anyway, back to what I was saying. Rose has the mentality of a distributor. He looks to get his teammates involved first. He's been that way since HS, and even his one year at Memphis. The reason his numbers are down is because he missed all of pre-season and Vinny was playing him less than 30 minutes/game the first 5 games of the season. He only takes 13 shots/game.

Also, as a person who has watched every Bulls game for the past few years, I can tell you that last year, the Bulls ran a lot of iso plays. Gordon, while I miss him on the team, would iso by himself and put up a shot rather than playing off Rose. This year, are scoring is completely down due to a lack of shooters to space the floor. There's no room for Rose to drive if defenders aren't staying home on the shooters, and he can't get assists if his teammates can't make shots. Our coaching is horrid, and we win games despite Vinny and not because of him.

well IMO the good distributors in the league's assist numbers show it... people always wanna throw the you can't look at stats thing around, but the fact is, the league's best distributors have high assist numbers... I know you didn't say he is the best distributor, but at the same time, if his hype and potential are based on his distributing then he has a LOOOONG way to go...

[NYCBred]

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So what if the Knicks had him now?

They may be a 20-25win team, instead of a 15-20 win. Yippee.

Some kid isnt going to entice anyone, $$$ will.


Next year, if the Knicks do their job right, he'd have to learn to adjust to being a 3rd wheel behind 2 all star type players.

Now if the Knicks are sitting here, next season with Jermaine O'Neal, Tracy McGrady, and Eddie House on their roster...forget I said anything.

I'll be storming MSG with pitchfork and torch, along with every other Knick fan in america.

Jennings looks like he is going to be at worst "good"..but I have a hard time getting excited about random scoring explosions, especially early in a nba season.

Ive seen too many of them, by guys who are average players, or who we barely ever hear from again.

Jamal Crawford, and his 3 50 point games

Todd Day's 30 point half

Flip Murray averaging 24 a game when Ray Allen was recovering from surgery.

and on, and on, and on.

Give him a pat on the back, and some props, but lets not do any anointing quite yet.

That is not what I meant. So you mean to tell me these big time free agents are going to want to come here(NY) when there is nobody on the team. Your joking right?

I said that if the Knicks would have taken Jennings and not Hill that will at least be one player the Knicks would have already in place. Next year the Knicks will not have enough money to sign to All Stars and some good role players, so I am sorry if you think that way.

Dont sit there and say that just becuase the Knicks have money free agents are going to want to come here. The Nets will have cap room and they have a better supporting cast than the Knicks.

Most of the teams next year that have cap room will have more to offer than the Knicks. The Bulls, Cavs, Heat, Mavericks, Nets etc. will all have cap room next year and all of those teams have something better to offer than the Knicks.

[o_capone]

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So
Jamal Crawford, and his 3 50 point games

Flip Murray averaging 24 a game when Ray Allen was recovering from surgery.

you never heard of jamal crawford again? wow, I thought he was puttin in work as a winning team's 6th man....

Flip Murray's situation declined that season because a better player was playing in front of him, and he has not been a situation like the start of 05 since then... once ray allen came back he only ended up averaging 24 mpg... last year he averaged 24 mpg too, but he still put up 12 ppg off the bench...

[dossier]

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So what if the Knicks had him now?

They may be a 20-25win team, instead of a 15-20 win. Yippee.

Some kid isnt going to entice anyone, $$$ will.


Next year, if the Knicks do their job right, he'd have to learn to adjust to being a 3rd wheel behind 2 all star type players.

Now if the Knicks are sitting here, next season with Jermaine O'Neal, Tracy McGrady, and Eddie House on their roster...forget I said anything.

I'll be storming MSG with pitchfork and torch, along with every other Knick fan in america.

Jennings looks like he is going to be at worst "good"..but I have a hard time getting excited about random scoring explosions, especially early in a nba season.

Ive seen too many of them, by guys who are average players, or who we barely ever hear from again.

Jamal Crawford, and his 3 50 point games

Todd Day's 30 point half

Flip Murray averaging 24 a game when Ray Allen was recovering from surgery.

and on, and on, and on.

Give him a pat on the back, and some props, but lets not do any anointing quite yet.

I can tell you now they wouldn't be 1-9, but thats a what if argument and doesn't completely count.

And how exactly won't a kid like Jennings entice a player? I bet just about any superstar (Kobe, Wade, LeBron, etc.) would take a a pay cut to have a better shot at winning

[NYCBred]

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I can tell you now they wouldn't be 1-9, but thats a what if argument and doesn't completely count.

And how exactly won't a kid like Jennings entice a player? I bet just about any superstar (Kobe, Wade, LeBron, etc.) would take a a pay cut to have a better shot at winning

Exactly. Lebron Wade and these guys are going to want go to team that gives them the best chance at winning. The Knicks do not give them that oppurtunity and them picking Hill over Jennings is just another example of why things are like that.

[JBH3]

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I'm pulling for the youngster. Love his game thus far.

EDIT: Didn't know this was a Knicks thread.

[sportyguyfl31]

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you never heard of jamal crawford again? wow, I thought he was puttin in work as a winning team's 6th man....

Flip Murray's situation declined that season because a better player was playing in front of him, and he has not been a situation like the start of 05 since then... once ray allen came back he only ended up averaging 24 mpg... last year he averaged 24 mpg too, but he still put up 12 ppg off the bench...

Dont twist what I said please.

Jamal Crawford and Flip Murrary have been average players at their positions for their entire careers..outside of scoring streaks that they never have proven to be able to maintain.

[NYCBred]

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Dont twist what I said please.

Jamal Crawford and Flip Murrary have been average players at their positions for their entire careers..outside of scoring streaks that they never have proven to be able to maintain.

Um didnt Jamal Crawford lead your knicks in scoring more than once?

[o_capone]

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Dont twist what I said please.

Jamal Crawford and Flip Murrary have been average players at their positions for their entire careers..outside of scoring streaks that they never have proven to be able to maintain.

over the past 6-7 years crawford averaged less then 17 ppg only once... i'd hardly say he is an average scorer... i doubt you can average 20 ppg playing alongside stephon marbury if you have scoring streaks you can not maintain...

[stateprop]

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I thought the same thing.

Also the other guy who said "it's no big deal we picked Hill instead of Jennings".. right. You sound like you're in denial.

Just because "your plan was to buy your way back to the top" doesn't mean you purposely screw up your lottery pick. You don't pick a guy like Hill when Jennings is there everyone knows this. Most Knick fans know this. Your logic makes no sense.

You could have LBJ or Wade or Bosh with Jennings instead of Hill, who should have been picked in the 20's. I actually also kind of wouldn't be that upset if NY didn't get a superstar just to laugh at their fans.

Dude on draft day when i saw the knicks had a chance to pick up this kid. I had my fingers cross, walking back and forth saying please pick jennings and when they pick hill of all people, im just give up even isiah thomas wouldnt pick hill at that spot. Im not lying to yall, i so was so happy when ricky rubio got pick and curry so i was like yes man we got jennings. Man now we pick a potential D-league player in 3-4 years on the 10th spot i mean come on ma Thnx u walsh.

We could of lure Lebron to NY man(sry cleveland fans, no im not). Im on the jennings bandwagon and im glad he is doing well.

[o_capone]

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Knicks fans will be happy with Hill, I guarantee that... I watched him play in college, and he is a warrior...

[Bornindamecca]

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Jennings looks awesome. He was far from a sure thing, and I didn't see a single reputable scouting report guaranteeing his success. There was almost no film of him in competition and the only people really talking about him were those that saw him in practice.

So I ain't mad at Donniw Walsh.

But The Plan better be worth it! Otherwise...

Walsh had an impossible job coming in. If getting a solid big man rather than seeing the future in the unpredictable Jennings is his worse sin, then he gets a pass from me. Hopefully Jordan Hill pans out, but I admit that his personality worried me on draft day, and I have heard nothing great about him since then. Came into the summer out of shape, came into camp out of shape, has one of those BS laid back personalities and hasn't shown that he wants to be great.

So I hope they knew what they were doing. Way too early to tell on Hill for sure.

[NYCBred]

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Knicks fans will be happy with Hill, I guarantee that... I watched him play in college, and he is a warrior...

We will never know If he dosent get playing time. And the Knicks dont seem as if they're going to give him any.