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  • Brankles
    Banned
    • May 2003
    • 5113

    #16
    Re: Tyreke Evans

    I dunno why anyone pre-draft thought Tyreke would be a bust. He has a great work ethic. support group (his brothers are completely devoted to him) and talent to go along with it.

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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #17
      Re: Tyreke Evans

      Originally posted by Brankles
      I dunno why anyone pre-draft thought Tyreke would be a bust. He has a great work ethic. support group (his brothers are completely devoted to him) and talent to go along with it.
      I thought he would be a bust because I didn't see him having a solid position and I thought he was too much of a volume guy who couldn't make his teammates better if he played the PG.

      Now that we all know he isn't a flop, I think we should pump the brakes on the kid a bit as well. Same with Jennings.

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      • Brankles
        Banned
        • May 2003
        • 5113

        #18
        Re: Tyreke Evans

        Good rookies on bad teams. Jennings/Tyreke remind a bit of Steve Francis and Baron Davis back when they were rooks.

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        • ex carrabba fan
          I'll thank him for you
          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #19
          Re: Tyreke Evans

          Originally posted by Brankles
          Good rookies on bad teams. Jennings/Tyreke remind a bit of Steve Francis and Baron Davis back when they were rooks.
          Exactly. We all have different opinions on those types of Francis/Davis type point guards and how "valuable" they are.

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          • 3rdAnswer
            Regular Cat Records®
            • Sep 2002
            • 10845

            #20
            Re: Tyreke Evans

            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
            Exactly. We all have different opinions on those types of Francis/Davis type point guards and how "valuable" they are.
            Baron Davis didn't average 20, 5, and 5 his rookie season like Tyreke Evans is doing.

            I think he's the real deal.
            -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
            www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
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            • Brankles
              Banned
              • May 2003
              • 5113

              #21
              Re: Tyreke Evans

              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
              Exactly. We all have different opinions on those types of Francis/Davis type point guards and how "valuable" they are.
              More than anything it shows they have the ability to do it. What kept Franchise and BDiddy from becoming stars was their mentality, something I think Tyreke and Jennings might have a better grip on, at least at this point. Those two seem to really love the game.

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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #22
                Re: Tyreke Evans

                Originally posted by 3rdAnswer
                Baron Davis didn't average 20, 5, and 5 his rookie season like Tyreke Evans is doing.

                I think he's the real deal.
                And that means what. Stats bore me.

                Baron was on a playoff team as a youngster if I'm not mistaken.

                He didn't have a fraction of the freedom Jennings has now. He didn't play a fraction of the minutes Jennings does now either.

                Jennings is ahead of the curve for certain, but that doesn't mean diddly.

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                • NYCBred
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                  • Nov 2009
                  • 250

                  #23
                  Re: Tyreke Evans

                  Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                  And that means what. Stats bore me.

                  Baron was on a playoff team as a youngster if I'm not mistaken.

                  He didn't have a fraction of the freedom Jennings has now. He didn't play a fraction of the minutes Jennings does now either.

                  Jennings is ahead of the curve for certain, but that doesn't mean diddly.
                  See this is what I dont understand how can you say stats dont mean anything? 20 5 and 5 as a rookie is pretty obvious that Evans is the real deal. So you are saying their is no difference between 20 5 and 5 and 10 2 and 2? Come on man stop fronting.

                  So if Davis barely played for a playoff Hornets team how does that prove anything? He obviously didnt have a profound impact on the team since they made the playoffs anyway.

                  What exactly are you trying to say?

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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #24
                    Re: Tyreke Evans

                    Originally posted by NYCBred
                    See this is what I dont understand how can you say stats dont mean anything? 20 5 and 5 as a rookie is pretty obvious that Evans is the real deal. So you are saying their is no difference between 20 5 and 5 and 10 2 and 2? Come on man stop fronting.

                    So if Davis barely played for a playoff Hornets team how does that prove anything? He obviously didnt have a profound impact on the team since they made the playoffs anyway.

                    What exactly are you trying to say?
                    Stats bore me. That's what I'm saying. I never said stats don't mean anything you said I did

                    I was questioning his use of "check his stats, he's the real deal".

                    Stats alone bore me.

                    Baron played less than 20 minutes a game his rookie year. Not too many players can average 20, 5 and 5 when you get 20 minutes a game. Baron's numbers rose drastically in his soph year when he got an abundance of PT.

                    Jennings nor Evans would have gotten as many minutes if you put him on that same Charlotte team as a rookie.

                    So if I'm fronting, sorry I'm going to keep fronting

                    My original point about comparing Baron/Francis/Evans/Jennings was that we all have differing opinions on how "good" Baron and Francis were.

                    In my view neither players were winners but they put up good stats. Evans and Jennings to me fit in that mold but it's obviously way too early to tell. My thing was to pump the brakes on praising these kids and believing anything too lofty.

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                    • NYCBred
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 250

                      #25
                      Re: Tyreke Evans

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      Stats bore me. That's what I'm saying. I never said stats don't mean anything you said I did

                      I was questioning his use of "check his stats, he's the real deal".

                      Stats alone bore me.

                      Baron played less than 20 minutes a game his rookie year. Not too many players can average 20, 5 and 5 when you get 20 minutes a game. Baron's numbers rose drastically in his soph year when he got an abundance of PT.

                      Jennings nor Evans would have gotten as many minutes if you put him on that same Charlotte team as a rookie.

                      So if I'm fronting, sorry I'm going to keep fronting

                      My original point about comparing Baron/Francis/Evans/Jennings was that we all have differing opinions on how "good" Baron and Francis were.

                      In my view neither players were winners but they put up good stats. Evans and Jennings to me fit in that mold but it's obviously way too early to tell. My thing was to pump the brakes on praising these kids and believing anything too lofty.
                      So I would like to see how you decide which players are good or not without the use of stats? How is that even possible? Im sorry but if a guy averaging 20 5 and 5 in his ROOKIE season does not impress you then I dont know what will.

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                      • ex carrabba fan
                        I'll thank him for you
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #26
                        Re: Tyreke Evans

                        Originally posted by NYCBred
                        So I would like to see how you decide which players are good or not without the use of stats? How is that even possible? Im sorry but if a guy averaging 20 5 and 5 in his ROOKIE season does not impress you then I dont know what will.
                        Why do you insist on putting words in my mouth?

                        I said I wasn't impressed with Evans? That's news to me.

                        Again, stats alone bore me.

                        For 3rdanswer to compare Baron's and Evan's rookie seasons is pointless. Two completely different era's and situations.

                        In that sense, Evan's stats don't mean that much to me. Of course they're impressive, he's on a great track to move on to bigger and better things. Still waiting to be "wowed" in a sense where I can say he's going to be a good one for years to come i.e. Durant/Melo etc. in their rookie years.

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                        • 3rdAnswer
                          Regular Cat Records®
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 10845

                          #27
                          Re: Tyreke Evans

                          Evans is getting PT because of how important he is to the team. Do you think the Hornets would've been a playoff team if Diddy was playing more minutes? Stats bore me as well, but 20, 5, and 5 in your rookie season while improving your team from the previous season means alot.

                          And this is being done without Kevin Martin.
                          -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
                          www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
                          New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #28
                            Re: Tyreke Evans

                            And if Baron Davis was on this Kings team he would have got the same amount of minutes. In my estimation Baron would have put up similar numbers to Evans.

                            I was just pointing out that it was pointless to say "well Baron never did this in his rookie year.." when the two teams were obviously in very different scenarios.

                            Once again, Evans has obviously shown to be ahead of the curve, I just question what type of player he will turn out to be.

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                            • 3rdAnswer
                              Regular Cat Records®
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 10845

                              #29
                              Re: Tyreke Evans

                              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                              And if Baron Davis was on this Kings team he would have got the same amount of minutes. In my estimation Baron would have put up similar numbers to Evans.

                              I was just pointing out that it was pointless to say "well Baron never did this in his rookie year.." when the two teams were obviously in very different scenarios.

                              Once again, Evans has obviously shown to be ahead of the curve, I just question what type of player he will turn out to be.
                              Considering his size at 6'6" and his strength, I'm confident he will end up a much more valuable player than Baron Davis.
                              -Jay Illestrate, Emcee/Producer/Graphic Artist
                              www.REGULARCATRECORDS.COM
                              New York Giants - Duke Blue Devils - Charlotte Hornets - San Antonio Spurs

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                              • JBH3
                                Marvel's Finest
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 13506

                                #30
                                Re: Tyreke Evans

                                Heading into this season I don't think anyone thought either the Bucks nor the Kings were headed for any success. However, both rookies have really stepped in and povided great production.

                                Why do we have to compare them? All they have in common IMO is they're rookies, essentially combo guards, and while one has slight of frame. The other has a triple that is flat-out deadly in this stage of the game and Jennings is a rookie.

                                Personally I like Jennings.
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