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  • NC State-31 UNC-27
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    • Nov 2007
    • 1525

    #16
    Re: Michael Jordan in this media era?

    yea golf is freaking huge.

    It's a great topic. And one that could be about a lot of people I'm sure.

    But to be honest.....Alex Rodriguez cheated on his wife. And did steroids. His image is fine IMO.

    Hate to bring this up again...but Shaq is/was banging Gilbert Arenas' fiance/baby moms. I understand it's not 100% confirmed, but still. Plus Shaq has cheated before.

    I think what it comes down to is the big accident i.e. Tigers very very mysterious car crash at 2:30 am on Thanksgiving. Thats what sparked the interest and the investigating and the "ah ha!" when we started uncovering details.

    Unless MJ runs into something like that I think he ends up being fine.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #17
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      Me personally, I think the media is overreacting with this whole Tiger mess. But yea, I'd be lying if I said I didn't think what MJ did wouldn't be a big deal in today's TMZ-dominated society.
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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #18
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        Originally posted by HMcCoy
        The "accident heard 'round the world" is responsible for the sensationalism attached to the story. Even today, no one would really care if MJ was getting some on the side as long as there wasn't this big attention-grabbing occurance.

        MJ's afairs were pretty common knowledge, but both his wife, and concubines stayed out of the limelight...and all parties were probably encouraged financially to do so. Rumor also has it that MJ's marriage was set up, and Jaunita knew going in that MJ would be out there. If that's true, Tiger should have followed that blueprint, lol.

        Another big problem for Tiger that wouldn't impact MJ as much is his marketing position. MJ's most lucrative sponserships weren't aimed at the same upper middle class "family guy" demographic Woods is pitched to. Nike and Gatorade marketed MJ to the streets. MJ banging strippers didn't hurt his street cred whatsoever.
        Its not a rumor, it was a pure business deal from his young years that his agent encouraged for his image. This was in a book named Michael Jordan back in the very early 90's.

        Thing is, calling out MJ when most of the guys you know at this level does the exact same thing.

        Magic did it, Shawn Kemp did it, Shaq did it, and a host of other people including actors all do it too. I dont see anyone sweatin Heidi Fleis for her book of stars that were clients for her girls. This lady dogging tiger is nothing more than a bootleg Heidi because she wants the attention.

        Its the thing of why everyone is acting as if theyre so shocked is what gets me. Man's biggest weakness always was women, but in this case these people run in the same circles together and they all know how it runs.

        Comparing the life of an average guy to the lifestyle these guys live is far from the same thing.

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        • Bornindamecca
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          • Jul 2007
          • 10919

          #19
          Re: Michael Jordan in this media era?

          Originally posted by 23
          Its the thing of why everyone is acting as if theyre so shocked is what gets me. Man's biggest weakness always was women, but in this case these people run in the same circles together and they all know how it runs.

          Comparing the life of an average guy to the lifestyle these guys live is far from the same thing.
          This is what gets me. Normal men don't know what it's like to have to actively refuse most of the women they meet. There is so much hypocrisy and celebrity worship in these scandals. Men in the media cheat and they know that the athletes cheat. So when they host their shows and act aghast for the sake of the naive couch potatoes, it really makes me sick. I constantly have to remind myself that this is not how people really are, otherwise the interest and feigned interest in these topics would really have me looking at people funny.

          The media has orchestrated this news spike and when they decide it is no longer news, the lemmings will obey and move on to something else. Just once I'd like to see a great mass of people just ignore these "stories". Just change the channel. Don't buy the paper. You don't really ****ing care. They are just telling you that you care. This will be forgotten about right on schedule.
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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #20
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            I completely agree Born... im pretty sick of it myself.

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            • Muzyk23
              MVP
              • Feb 2003
              • 4192

              #21
              Re: Michael Jordan in this media era?

              Originally posted by kgx2thez



              Probably one of the most incorrect posts in a while. Golf isn't just big in the States. Do you realize sponsors and tournaments from around the world have paid him millions to show up in places like Dubai, India, and other countries? Tiger Woods is probably the most popular athlete in the world right now.
              Incorrect by your standards, not mine. States, Dubai, India, certain group\class of people playing the sport. Globally golf is not as popular as basketball. Niche. It is not big in Europe. Woods is not the most popular.
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              • daflyboys
                Banned
                • May 2003
                • 18238

                #22
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                Originally posted by Court_vision
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                Personally, I don't care if Tiger or MJ cheated 100 times. They are sports players, not a politician who has based his image on being a family guy etc.
                Where the heck have you been? Politicians at any level haven't set the bar for this either!!

                Idk about how he would do in this media era....probably ok... but you have to shake off a little Charlie Sheen first. I mean wtf is up with that?!?

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                • KG
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                  • Sep 2005
                  • 17583

                  #23
                  Re: Michael Jordan in this media era?

                  Originally posted by Muzyk23
                  Incorrect by your standards, not mine. States, Dubai, India, certain group\class of people playing the sport. Globally golf is not as popular as basketball. Niche. It is not big in Europe. Woods is not the most popular.
                  He's been the top earning sports figure in the world for some time now. Yes, golf is a niche sport to play, but you don't have to play or like a sport to know who someone is. This isn't a popularity contest between the sports but Tiger has a name that transcends sports. Hell, his 2nd biggest endorsement was with Accenture, an international/global consulting firm.

                  If you don't think he's the most popular athlete in the world then I'd like to hear who you think is.

                  Current athletes only.
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                  • KG
                    Welcome Back
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 17583

                    #24
                    Re: Michael Jordan in this media era?

                    Originally posted by 23
                    I completely agree Born... im pretty sick of it myself.
                    I've pretty much ignored all of it but I have been checking out the ladies who are all of a sudden coming out all over the place.
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                    • Porschebenz2001
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 3628

                      #25
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                      Was that whole thing about his first retirement being about his gambling problems bs?

                      If that came out now he'd be crucified in the press.
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                      • Court_vision
                        Banned
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 8290

                        #26
                        Re: Michael Jordan in this media era?

                        Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                        The media has orchestrated this news spike and when they decide it is no longer news, the lemmings will obey and move on to something else. Just once I'd like to see a great mass of people just ignore these "stories". Just change the channel. Don't buy the paper. You don't really ****ing care. They are just telling you that you care. This will be forgotten about right on schedule.
                        It's not quite as simple as "media orchestrated" though.

                        Modern sports mega stars are manipluating the media to present an image that is often not true. If that image then gets shattered, the media is naturally enough going to jump on it. Tiger Woods was in Australia recently and was hosted by the Premier of Victoria. They did a live press conference together where Tiger (trying to promote his products) was going on about Christmas coming up and the importance of family...i..e "all you kids out there, go and buy Dad some of my products".

                        Sports guys could solve a lot of these problems by not manipulating their familes / "gee i love my wife and kids" type BS to try and capture a certain market.

                        No one cares about Charles Barkley's whoring days because Charles (to his credit) never tried to sell himself as anything else than who he was.

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                        • PrettyT11
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 3220

                          #27
                          Re: Michael Jordan in this media era?

                          Originally posted by Muzyk23
                          Incorrect by your standards, not mine. States, Dubai, India, certain group\class of people playing the sport. Globally golf is not as popular as basketball. Niche. It is not big in Europe. Woods is not the most popular.
                          I am by no means a golf person or a golf fan at all but you should just stop typing about this now because it is obvious you don't know what you are talking about. If golf is nothing in Europe care to explain the Ryder Cup then?? Or how about the PGA European Tour?? The euro tour is by far and away the second biggest tour in golf behind the PGA. In fact half of the top 10 golfers in the world are full time members of the PGA European Tour. You should also know that the big tourny in Dubai is under the euro tour. You ask Ernie Els if golf isn't big in Europe. He has made almost as much money playing on European Tour as he has on the PGA tour with both totals being over 30 million. Sounds pretty big to me.

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                          • Muzyk23
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 4192

                            #28
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                            Originally posted by PrettyT11
                            I am by no means a golf person or a golf fan at all but you should just stop typing about this now because it is obvious you don't know what you are talking about. If golf is nothing in Europe care to explain the Ryder Cup then?? Or how about the PGA European Tour?? The euro tour is by far and away the second biggest tour in golf behind the PGA. In fact half of the top 10 golfers in the world are full time members of the PGA European Tour. You should also know that the big tourny in Dubai is under the euro tour. You ask Ernie Els if golf isn't big in Europe. He has made almost as much money playing on European Tour as he has on the PGA tour with both totals being over 30 million. Sounds pretty big to me.
                            golf is nothing when compared to football, basketball, volleyball, boxing..come on.. Europeans not interested in golf do not care who Tiger Woods is..they care who C.Ronaldo or L.Messi are..they are crazy about their basketball, football(soccer) or volleyball teams..

                            only select few give a damn about golf so this leads to a conclusion that even though he is the richest sportsperson only those select few give a damn about him or golf in that matter
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                            • Muzyk23
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 4192

                              #29
                              Re: Michael Jordan in this media era?

                              Originally posted by kgx2thez
                              He's been the top earning sports figure in the world for some time now. Yes, golf is a niche sport to play, but you don't have to play or like a sport to know who someone is. This isn't a popularity contest between the sports but Tiger has a name that transcends sports. Hell, his 2nd biggest endorsement was with Accenture, an international/global consulting firm.

                              If you don't think he's the most popular athlete in the world then I'd like to hear who you think is.

                              Current athletes only.
                              I look at it this way - he is the most popular athlete in the world when you talk about money, because that's when his name gets thrown around in the news in EUROPE BUT as golf is a niche sport with a small group of followers he is not the most popular one out there
                              Last edited by Muzyk23; 12-15-2009, 06:30 PM.
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                              • bubbachuck
                                Pro
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 912

                                #30
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                                MJ would have beat that game too!

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