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  • King_B_Mack
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    • Jan 2009
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    #136
    Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

    Originally posted by da ThRONe
    He won with the best PG's at the time in a PG driven league. His sucess is linked to his floor general's not his coaching. I cant speak too much to his time in New Jersey but as the Hornets coach he was terrible ,and an a**hole to boot.
    If you can't speak to his time in Jersey then why are you basically boiling it down to having the best PG at the time? The fact is he turned the Hornets from a joke in the West to legit championship contenders in three years same as he did with the Nets. I don't see how you're placing blame for where the Hornets are now completely in his lap.

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    • Starlin4Prez
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      • May 2010
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      #137
      Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

      With the Nets he did it in 1 year....

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      • Starlin4Prez
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        • May 2010
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        #138
        Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

        P.S. I find it funny that OSU_Fan now has a Byron Scott avatar....

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        • DieHardYankee26
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          • Feb 2008
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          #139
          Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

          Originally posted by Starlin4Prez
          P.S. I find it funny that OSU_Fan now has a Byron Scott avatar....
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          • Bornindamecca
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            • Jul 2007
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            #140
            Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

            For those saying that Scott only won because he had the best PG, neither Paul nor Kidd have been as far without Scott. Not even close, actually.
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            • ProfessaPackMan
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              • Mar 2008
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              #141
              Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

              Kidd has actually made it to the 2nd round a few times since he and Scott split while Byron has only advanced there once. Of course that isn't saying much but I think Kidd has shown he can still be somewhat successful without Scott.
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              • RayAllen20
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                • Jun 2009
                • 1825

                #142
                Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

                How as the Hornets coach was Scott terrible? They got deep into the playoffs and were legitimate championship contenders with a team that wasn't that talented. He won coach of the year that year also. The next year they got to the playoffs. Without him this year, they sucked. Also, CP3 was very fond of Scott and was upset at his hiring.
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                • King_B_Mack
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                  • Jan 2009
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                  #143
                  Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  Kidd has actually made it to the 2nd round a few times since he and Scott split while Byron has only advanced there once. Of course that isn't saying much but I think Kidd has shown he can still be somewhat successful without Scott.
                  True, but the second round ain't the Finals and considering those teams were more talented than the ones that were in the Finals and Larry Frank couldn't do jack with them, I think that speaks a tad bit more to what Scott was able to do there right? As opposed to the way he's just been completely thrown under the bus as getting where he did cause he had an elite PG.

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                  • ProfessaPackMan
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                    • Mar 2008
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                    #144
                    Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

                    I'm just responding to what he said in that Kidd hasn't done much with Scott. Hell, Frank did the best he could despite not even being able to improve the team at all because the cheap *** bastard he worked for didn't want to spend a penny on improving the team at all, while Scott had the benefit of having an owner who at least TRIED to spend money to bring in players while he was here.

                    I would've LOVED to see Scott or ANY Coach for that matter be able to do what he did(go to B2B Finals) despite working for a guy who didn't want to spend a dime at all.
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                    • Bornindamecca
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                      • Jul 2007
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                      #145
                      Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      I'm just responding to what he said in that Kidd hasn't done much with Scott. Hell, Frank did the best he could despite not even being able to improve the team at all because the cheap *** bastard he worked for didn't want to spend a penny on improving the team at all, while Scott had the benefit of having an owner who at least TRIED to spend money to bring in players while he was here.

                      I would've LOVED to see Scott or ANY Coach for that matter be able to do what he did(go to B2B Finals) despite working for a guy who didn't want to spend a dime at all.
                      I didn't say that Kidd hasn't done much. I said he hasn't gone as far, and the 2nd round isn't as far as the playoffs. Not poo-pooing Kidd or CP3's non-Scott career, but the case is pretty plain: if you have talent, Byron can take you very far with that talent, and perhaps even maximize that talent. Sure, he'll wear thin, but Bron will probably sign a three year deal, so that's perfect for the Byron Bad Attitude timetable.
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                      • CougarMVP
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                        • May 2010
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                        #146
                        Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

                        All this NBA talk upsets me because Seattle doesn't have a time anymore but I wish Scott the best.
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                        • OSUFan_88
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                          • Jul 2004
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                          #147
                          Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

                          Originally posted by Starlin4Prez
                          P.S. I find it funny that OSU_Fan now has a Byron Scott avatar....
                          I find it more funny that you missed the insult on my avatar.
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                          • da ThRONe
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                            • Mar 2009
                            • 8528

                            #148
                            Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

                            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                            If you can't speak to his time in Jersey then why are you basically boiling it down to having the best PG at the time? The fact is he turned the Hornets from a joke in the West to legit championship contenders in three years same as he did with the Nets. I don't see how you're placing blame for where the Hornets are now completely in his lap.
                            I said I cant speak too much because I dont have the same amount of knowledge about that team at that time like I do when he was with the Hornets. I was able to watch his New Orleans team being that I lived in New Orleans way more than when he was at New Jersey.
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                            • Vince
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                              • Aug 2002
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                              #149
                              Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

                              Originally posted by RayAllen20
                              How as the Hornets coach was Scott terrible? They got deep into the playoffs and were legitimate championship contenders with a team that wasn't that talented. He won coach of the year that year also. The next year they got to the playoffs. Without him this year, they sucked. Also, CP3 was very fond of Scott and was upset at his hiring.
                              LOL, The Hornets were never championship contenders. They had the 2nd best point guard in the world, an all star and a team full of scrubs.
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                              • da ThRONe
                                Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 8528

                                #150
                                Re: Cavaliers to hire Byron Scott as HC? Updated Pg 6

                                Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                                For those saying that Scott only won because he had the best PG, neither Paul nor Kidd have been as far without Scott. Not even close, actually.
                                Do you realise Scott has been CP's coach his entire career? So how would he do anything without him?

                                Brown has many of the same accolades as Scott does.

                                Finals apperances Scott has 2. Coach of the year award both not being deserving IMO. Brown has back-to-back 60+ win regular season. You could agrue the Cavs suck outside of LBJ so does that make Brown a great coach? How much has LBJ done without Brown?

                                IMO basketball is the one team sport where one player can have the biggest impact. Both Brown and Scott are products of having guys how are top 3 impact guys of the league at the time of their success. This does not make them good coaches just because they were riding these guys coattails.
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