Brandon Jennings

[capp34]

Re: Brandon Jennings

Kobe was begging for a trade to the bulls not too long ago, It didn't get done but he wanted the same thing lebron wants. people seem to forget that

Do people honestly believe that Kobe wanted to be traded to a team that was WORST then the Lakers at the time. That was Kobe's way of making management/ownership speed up the process of building a winner, and it worked by the way.

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Re: Brandon Jennings

No one is blaming Lebron for wanting help. I think the arguments have gone on long enough and been repeated enough that we all know that isn't the point. Most of the arguments about other places Lebron could have gone include him teaming up with one or two other All Stars.

If I had a marquee player on my team, I'd definitely want him to demand better starters than Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Luke Walton. This is not the same situation Lebron is in. No one is saying Kobe is perfect, or even perfect by comparison, but there is a contrast in their resepective situations. Please lets not dig up this old tired Kobe debate. There was a lot more going on with that franchise besides him demanding better players and everyone knows it.


KDRE, I'm not saying you're doing it on purpose, but your responses seem disproportionate. Lebron by all accounts did one of the coldest things to his city ever to be recorded in sports after quitting on his team in the playoffs. If you're going to be digging up YouTube videos, there is reference pertinent to the current situation. Kobe's old mistakes don't make Lebron's current mistakes any better or any more excusable. You seem outraged by Kobe demanding better teammates, but not so much by Lebron's current actions.

I simply made a point and Its just the truth. The only ones in here that seem outraged are the people claiming for LeBron's head and scolding his family as if theyre some kind of war enemies.

Im not the one who continues to bring up Kobe as some kind of a standard. Its others in here. I've seen people say some of the dumbest things in here, and referencing Kobe because they want to hate on LeBron but come on, he has nothing to do with what LeBron did.

There are many more points of reasoning going on moreso than the whole media disaster. I dont think any of us cared for that garbage, but im reading quite a few trains of thought that are all mixed up into the conversations.

Im also not excusing what LeBron did as I stated, and again stated I was the very first one in here making a deal about the 3 guys dragging the free agency on when they already knew what they wanted anyway, let alone a few argued me down about it only to see them announce an espn special a couple of hours later.

Main thing of that post for CV is that had Kobe been a free agent he would've left too, and as a signed player he did some of the most despicable things to LA anyone could've done and yep he was allowed certain allowances as well.

Point being, he's no moral standard in this case, and if you want not like LeBron because of what he did, then do that, but there is no need for the overkill.

[JVal3208]

Re: Brandon Jennings

This kid grew up during the season. He has Scott Skiles as a mentor and has even said that he appreciates Skiles as a coach because he played PG.

You don't see his name in the paper under police reports or having a entourage surrounding him. He said he doesn't need that.

Is this really what we've come to? A guy is incredibly mature because he appreciates his coach and hasn't been arrested? SMH.

[roadman]

Re: Brandon Jennings

Is this really what we've come to? A guy is incredibly mature because he appreciates his coach and hasn't been arrested? SMH.

Please tell us how he is immature.

[da ThRONe]

Re: Brandon Jennings

No one is blaming Lebron for wanting help. I think the arguments have gone on long enough and been repeated enough that we all know that isn't the point. Most of the arguments about other places Lebron could have gone include him teaming up with one or two other All Stars.

If I had a marquee player on my team, I'd definitely want him to demand better starters than Smush Parker, Kwame Brown and Luke Walton. This is not the same situation Lebron is in. No one is saying Kobe is perfect, or even perfect by comparison, but there is a contrast in their resepective situations. Please lets not dig up this old tired Kobe debate. There was a lot more going on with that franchise besides him demanding better players and everyone knows it.


KDRE, I'm not saying you're doing it on purpose, but your responses seem disproportionate. Lebron by all accounts did one of the coldest things to his city ever to be recorded in sports after quitting on his team in the playoffs. If you're going to be digging up YouTube videos, there is reference pertinent to the current situation. Kobe's old mistakes don't make Lebron's current mistakes any better or any more excusable. You seem outraged by Kobe demanding better teammates, but not so much by Lebron's current actions.

What Kobe did was worse. He was still under contract. LeBron was a free agent and went some where else. Kobe may not have had an Hour special but he was on ESPN more than enough giving up and crying to be traded.

[DIESEL]

Re: Brandon Jennings

What Kobe did was worse. He was still under contract. LeBron was a free agent and went some where else. Kobe may not have had an Hour special but he was on ESPN more than enough giving up and crying to be traded.

Be careful. Lightning may strike you if you dare speak ill Kobe.

This thread's a joke. Thread title should be "Brandon Jennings agrees with what I think Leborn should have done."

[BaselineBakes]

Re: Brandon Jennings

http://www.seattlepi.com/basketball/195189_sonx14.html

"If Kobe doesn't see he needs two and a half good players to be a legitimate playoff contender or win a championship in about a year or two he'll be calling out to Jerry Buss that 'We need some help in here,' or 'Trade me,' " Allen said. "And we'll all be saying, 'I told you so,' when he says that."

Jesus?

[ParisB]

Re: Brandon Jennings

I simply made a point and Its just the truth. The only ones in here that seem outraged are the people claiming for LeBron's head and scolding his family as if theyre some kind of war enemies.

Im not the one who continues to bring up Kobe as some kind of a standard. Its others in here. I've seen people say some of the dumbest things in here, and referencing Kobe because they want to hate on LeBron but come on, he has nothing to do with what LeBron did.

There are many more points of reasoning going on moreso than the whole media disaster. I dont think any of us cared for that garbage, but im reading quite a few trains of thought that are all mixed up into the conversations.

Im also not excusing what LeBron did as I stated, and again stated I was the very first one in here making a deal about the 3 guys dragging the free agency on when they already knew what they wanted anyway, let alone a few argued me down about it only to see them announce an espn special a couple of hours later.

Main thing of that post for CV is that had Kobe been a free agent he would've left too, and as a signed player he did some of the most despicable things to LA anyone could've done and yep he was allowed certain allowances as well.

Point being, he's no moral standard in this case, and if you want not like LeBron because of what he did, then do that, but there is no need for the overkill.

That's the way it goes in sports. Jordan beat up teamates, criticized many, had gambling problems, and an expensive divorce because he cheated on his wife many times. Luckily, the media wasn't as prevalent back then and people will chose who to love and who to hate. Winning cures all in your hometown.

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Re: Brandon Jennings

That's the way it goes in sports. Jordan beat up teamates, criticized many, had gambling problems, and an expensive divorce because he cheated on his wife many times. Luckily, the media wasn't as prevalent back then and people will chose who to love and who to hate. Winning cures all in your hometown.

Please man the media was big enough.

Listen to enough people and they blame Jordan for ESPN and players today lacking fundamentals.

The man was known worldwide in the media.. thats just a joke in itself to say that. You cant have it both ways

[Shinyhubcaps]

Re: Brandon Jennings

I guess I don't get it. Is he condoning LeBron James for betraying Cleveland? I mean, am I the only person not outraged by what James did? He was drafted by a team, played with that team, and, except for the criticisms about this year's playoffs, tried his hardest to help his team win. Then he became a free agent and did what was in his own best interests. He followed the rules of NBA player movement fully (except I would have signed outright, but the sign-and-trade is permissible).

Anyway, as a Bucks fan, Jennings strikes me as a hotshot young kid still (I'm 21 and I'm older than him, so maybe that's part of it) without a ton of maturity. If he wants to comment on the situation, that's fine. But, LeBron had a business relationship with those fans, not a personal one. LeBron may be seen as running away from problems, but they weren't his own. It's Cleveland's fault for having the best talent in basketball and failing to utilize it fully.

[ParisB]

Re: Brandon Jennings

Please man the media was big enough.

Listen to enough people and they blame Jordan for ESPN and players today lacking fundamentals.

The man was known worldwide in the media.. thats just a joke in itself to say that. You cant have it both ways

lol

what I said was true about Jordan

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

Re: Brandon Jennings

That's the way it goes in sports. Jordan beat up teamates, criticized many, had gambling problems, and an expensive divorce because he cheated on his wife many times. Luckily, the media wasn't as prevalent back then and people will chose who to love and who to hate. Winning cures all in your hometown.

I don't really understand what your point here is. The only thing that has anything to even do with basketball or his career is the beat up teammates and criticize thing. And I would have much rather seen Lebron criticize his organization to get some more talent instead of just throwing a chance at an amazing career away to hang with his pals

[23]

Re: Brandon Jennings

I dont understand what it is either....lol

[ParisB]

Re: Brandon Jennings

I don't really understand what your point here is. The only thing that has anything to even do with basketball or his career is the beat up teammates and criticize thing. And I would have much rather seen Lebron criticize his organization to get some more talent instead of just throwing a chance at an amazing career away to hang with his pals

lol

the point is people overlook things when its a player from their team. Jordan fanboys hate on Lebron or Kobe, and try to point out all these things to criticize them on or off the court. Lebron and Kobe at one point criticized their teamates, Kobe cheated on his wife etc. But Jordan did things like that too, yet people idolize him like a god and overlook all that.

[ILLSmak]

Re: Brandon Jennings

You can't compare what anyone did to what LeBron did because they aren't LeBron. I am surprised but only because he had a chance to not only go down as GOAT but really push his 'brand' to the next level. Unfortunately, with these moves he really missed the chance.

Playing with Bosh would have been OK, I think, but playing with Wade... a player who some might argue is better than LeBron (not me, but I'm just saying) is not good for him.

Cleveland didn't have a bad team. They were almost there. And, as has been said, one ring in Cleveland would have deified LeBron. Now even if he wins a bunch... will it matter? He won't go down as an all time great, but the Heat may go down as an all time great team. I don't think LeBron thinks the same way Kobe or MJ does... I don't think he cares as much. He's not obsessively devoted.

LeBron is kind of like Shaq where he's just gifted... it's too bad that he had to go to the Heat. He could have gone anywhere else... even Chicago... and he would have still had a chance at GOAT.

-Smak