Who was a better PF?

[Bornindamecca]

Re: Who was a better PF?

What Cebby said.

[Dewie12]

Re: Who was a better PF?

And it's not like he played a bunch of bums either.

Starbury, Matrix, Amare, Penny, Joe Johnson Suns
Shaq/Kobe Lakers
Dirk, Finley, and Nash Mavs
Kidd, KMart, and Jefferson Nets

Say what???? The early 2000's the NBA lacked talent so bad.

Those New Jersey Nets teams were the worst teams ever in the finals.

Tim Duncan had a great year but he has never really played the PF position. He was/is and always will be a center. Especially when you look at it from a 00's vs. 80's offensive sets, defensive sets etc.....

I think Tim Duncan stats look better but a healthy McHale against a healthy Duncan is basically a draw. Too bad Parish would have been guarding Duncan anyway.....

[ak47jared]

Re: Who was a better PF?

Tim Duncan is the Best PF ever.

Best quote I ve ever seen. GO SPURS!

[wwharton]

Re: Who was a better PF?

Say what???? The early 2000's the NBA lacked talent so bad.

Those New Jersey Nets teams were the worst teams ever in the finals.

Tim Duncan had a great year but he has never really played the PF position. He was/is and always will be a center. Especially when you look at it from a 00's vs. 80's offensive sets, defensive sets etc.....

I think Tim Duncan stats look better but a healthy McHale against a healthy Duncan is basically a draw. Too bad Parish would have been guarding Duncan anyway.....

Huh? Duncan has been successful in the center role but his game is very much the prototypical PF, with both a back to the basket and face up game. There's a reason that the Spurs have continued to put another big body on the floor with him to man the center spot.

[The15thunter]

Re: Who was a better PF?

i agree with wwharton.

6'11, 250 with a slender build is pretty much how the power forward position has been filled in the modern era. just because he has the skills to move over into the center position if needed and play it at a high level does not make him a center.

[X*Cell]

Re: Who was a better PF?

34-2 poll... worst hypothetical ever???

A better question would have been...

93 Barkley vs. 97 Mailman vs. 03 Duncan

[Jeffx]

Re: Who was a better PF?

Tim Duncan is the Best PF ever.

Nope, that honor goes to Elvin Hayes. Duncan is up there though.

[The15thunter]

Re: Who was a better PF?

Nope, that honor goes to Elvin Hayes. Duncan is up there though.

please defend that statement.

[LingeringRegime]

Re: Who was a better PF?

Tough call, both are so fundamentally sound. But, I have to go with the "Big Fundamental." Frankenstein was great, but Timmy was greater.

[yankeesgiants]

Re: Who was a better PF?

Duncan vs Elvin Hayes is actually a good one. Very similiar players. To close to call on that one. Great rebounders who could step out to 12 feet and knock it down. Again it's the Man to man defense era vs the zone defense era. Wouldn't be disapointed with either player.

[Jeffx]

Re: Who was a better PF?

Duncan vs Elvin Hayes is actually a good one. Very similiar players. To close to call on that one. Great rebounders who could step out to 12 feet and knock it down. Again it's the Man to man defense era vs the zone defense era. Wouldn't be disapointed with either player.

Now I love Duncan - he's a throwback and plays basketball the way it should be played. But I saw 'E' in his prime, and I'm telling you, the cat was a one-man wrecking crew. Led the league in scoring as a rookie, 12 time All-Star, 4th all-time in minutes per game, 4th all-time in rebounds, 7th all-time in points, went to three Finals(winning in 1978), and only missed nine games in 16 seasons. I'm partial to the old skool cats, so I'll give him a slight edge over TD.

[X*Cell]

Re: Who was a better PF?

Now I love Duncan - he's a throwback and plays basketball the way it should be played. But I saw 'E' in his prime, and I'm telling you, the cat was a one-man wrecking crew. Led the league in scoring as a rookie, 12 time All-Star, 4th all-time in minutes per game, 4th all-time in rebounds, 7th all-time in points, went to three Finals(winning in 1978), and only missed nine games in 16 seasons. I'm partial to the old skool cats, so I'll give him a slight edge over TD.

Duncan went to 4 finals and won all of them. Won 2 MVP's, Made the All-NBA 1st team 9 times, and made the All-Defensive 1st team 9 times as well. In his 13 year career, he has never ONCE been excluded from an all-star game. His Defensive Rating for his career is only 2nd to Elmore Smith. Duncan is 687-290 (W-L) for his career.

Big E was great, but not as good as Duncan. Duncan beats him in Career Per (25-18) & TS% (.553 to .490). The one thing Hayes had going for him was like you said... he could play all-day everyday. 45 minutes per game would destroy my lungs lol.

Next time you rattle off a player's accolades, remember to include the other player to rid you of your biased decisions.

[AlexBrady]

Re: Who was a better PF?

Duncan vs Elvin Hayes is actually a good one. Very similiar players. To close to call on that one. Great rebounders who could step out to 12 feet and knock it down. Again it's the Man to man defense era vs the zone defense era. Wouldn't be disapointed with either player.

Hayes isn't even remotely close to the player that Duncan is. He shot turnaround jumpers, could block shots, and he was a good rebounder. But, his passing and handle were pathetic, his man defense was despicable, and his choking was legendary. The only reason he ever won squat is because he played with the great Wes Unseld.

[sammy g]

Re: Who was a better PF?

As a Mavs fan it kills me to say it, but i'd have to take Tim Duncan.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: Who was a better PF?

I think who has a better post game would be a better debate