NBA GM's Survey 2010-2011

[ex carrabba fan]

http://espn.go.com/blog/TrueHoop/post/_/id/20224/gms-picking-against-lebron-james

--However, in this season's GM survey, James received a single vote, out of 28 GMs surveyed, as the player most likely to win MVP. The Thunder's Kevin Durant -- fresh off a stellar performance for Team USA -- was the runaway favorite, winning 67 percent of the vote. Kobe Bryant -- who did not get a single first-place MVP vote last season -- was second with 26 percent. Like James, Dwight Howard received a single vote.

[KG]

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The Heat’s James (68 percent) was named the best small forward.

I'm assuming KD was penciled in at the 3 and not the 2 otherwise WTF.

[ehh]

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Pretty odd Durant is picked as the MVP and the player most GM's would want to start a franchise with but LBJ is picked as the best SF.

The MVP thing makes sense since LBJ will now get the Yankee treatment and struggle to win individual awards. Picking Durant over him to start a franchise is just crazy though IMO.

[rangerrick012]

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Yeah this came out last wk on nba.com

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/10/02/survey-predictions/index.html

Also the GMs were split for Pau/Dirk as best PF, but chose Dirk as best international player over Pau. There's a reason why Barkley says it's easy to be a GM.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Pretty odd Durant is picked as the MVP and the player most GM's would want to start a franchise with but LBJ is picked as the best SF.

The MVP thing makes sense since LBJ will now get the Yankee treatment and struggle to win individual awards. Picking Durant over him to start a franchise is just crazy though IMO.

I'm not surprised Lebron was picked as best SF because right now, he is. Same with the MVP thing. Durant probably is more likely to win it right now. And starting a franchise, I don't know, maybe because of the way Lebron walked away from Cleveland and has the reputation of giving Cleveland a hard time while Durant is just quiet and does his thing? I don't know about that one.

[dossier]

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Most franchises arn't cleveland though. I can't imagine why places like chicago, ny, basically every city besides cleveland would want to start their franchise with him.

[OSUFan_88]

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Most franchises arn't cleveland though. I can't imagine why places like chicago, ny, basically every city besides cleveland would want to start their franchise with him.

To be fair, there were many reasons why it did not succeed in Cleveland that were both hugely LeBron's fault *refusal to commit* and the ownerships fault *hiring awful coaches*

Either way...I don't know, I guess if LeBron gave a long term commitment, I'd pick him. If he didn't, I'd go with someone who would.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Refusing to commit?

He was smart as hell for doing that since the best Robin they could give him his first 5 years was Larry Hughes. Look back at the 2007-2008 team. You have Big Z/Ben Wallace/LBJ/Wally/West. How the EFF did they even take Boston to 7 games that year??

Consistently having 2 or more starters at the level of Ben Wallace/Wally/Moon/Sasha P/Anthony Parker shows how crap a job Cleveland management did with surrounding James with adequate talent.

Sure the team could plow through the regular season but come playoff time that isn't cutting it against Boston's Big 4 or LA's All-Star team.

Ownership deserves a majority of the blame, if not almost all.

I know it's hard to see it that way because of James' foolish act this Summer but once people sit down and look at what James had in his first 6 seasons people will be amazed at how far he took them and how much regular season success they [LeBron] garnered.

[Rocky]

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LBJ is the better player and will likely be the best player in the game throughout his career. He does have alot of baggage....between his entourage, his ambitions, etc. I'm not saying he is a problem, but you know you don't have to necessarily deal with those things with Durant.

[Dice]

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Pretty odd Durant is picked as the MVP and the player most GM's would want to start a franchise with but LBJ is picked as the best SF.

The MVP thing makes sense since LBJ will now get the Yankee treatment and struggle to win individual awards. Picking Durant over him to start a franchise is just crazy though IMO.

I don't think it's crazy. I myself would pick LeBron over Durrant if I was to start a franchise but I'd have no problem if I had to take Durrant. When your talking about starting a franchise, you have to take into account more than just talent. You have to take talent, age and potential. If you just want the best player then there would be several players you take over Durrant. Lebron, Kobe, Howard and probably even Wade to name a few. But for the players I named, how many of them is going to get better than what they are now? Maybe, Lebron might boost his game a little more. But the others, Kobe, Wade, and Howard(yes, him to. See the Howard works out with Olajuwon thread to get my view on Howard's potential) aren't going to get any better than what they are now.

Durrant on the other hand is 22 years old and already an MVP candidate. Sky's the limit for him. If he wins it, he'll tie the record with Wes Useld as the youngest player to win the NBA MVP.

[OSUFan_88]

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Refusing to commit?

He was smart as hell for doing that since the best Robin they could give him his first 5 years was Larry Hughes. Look back at the 2007-2008 team. You have Big Z/Ben Wallace/LBJ/Wally/West. How the EFF did they even take Boston to 7 games that year??

Consistently having 2 or more starters at the level of Ben Wallace/Wally/Moon/Sasha P/Anthony Parker shows how crap a job Cleveland management did with surrounding James with adequate talent.

Sure the team could plow through the regular season but come playoff time that isn't cutting it against Boston's Big 4 or LA's All-Star team.

Ownership deserves a majority of the blame, if not almost all.

I know it's hard to see it that way because of James' foolish act this Summer but once people sit down and look at what James had in his first 6 seasons people will be amazed at how far he took them and how much regular season success they [LeBron] garnered.

Did you ever stop to think that the reason the best the Cavaliers could do was Larry Hughes was because they could never build a team without the cloud of a 3 year contract with LeBron hung over their head?

The team was never given a grace period to build anything around LeBron without the threat of him leaving, thus ownership was always in a "must win" situation all the time. We never had time to build a team, instead it was always "try to give LeBron what he needs."

In retrospect, it's equally LeBron's and ownerships fault for allowing LeBron to have so much power. It hurt the team and the ability of Ferry to build the team.

[boomhauertjs]

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Did you ever stop to think that the reason the best the Cavaliers could do was Larry Hughes was because they could never build a team without the cloud of a 3 year contract with LeBron hung over their head?

Not that he's a superstar, but the uncertainty was the exact reason Trevor Ariza gave for signing with the Rockets instead of the Cavs. He would've been a much better SG than Anthony Parker.

[dossier]

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I meant wouldn't want lebron besides cleveland.

I would pick lebron everytime unless im from cleveland

[rangerrick012]

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To be fair, there were many reasons why it did not succeed in Cleveland that were both hugely LeBron's fault *refusal to commit* and the ownerships fault *hiring awful coaches*

Either way...I don't know, I guess if LeBron gave a long term commitment, I'd pick him. If he didn't, I'd go with someone who would.

Not to mention the fact that he did more recruiting in 2 weeks in Miami (meeting Fisher at the airport) than he did in 6 years in Cle.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Did you ever stop to think that the reason the best the Cavaliers could do was Larry Hughes was because they could never build a team without the cloud of a 3 year contract with LeBron hung over their head?

The team was never given a grace period to build anything around LeBron without the threat of him leaving, thus ownership was always in a "must win" situation all the time. We never had time to build a team, instead it was always "try to give LeBron what he needs."

In retrospect, it's equally LeBron's and ownerships fault for allowing LeBron to have so much power. It hurt the team and the ability of Ferry to build the team.

Never given a grace period? He played three years with trash around him before he signed another three year extension. That first three years isn't grace enough? Please.

Explain to me how he should have gone about signing his first extension?

Also explain to me how signing an extension meant only mediocre pieces could sign there. It's called terrible management.