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  • lilbiggio
    MVP
    • Jun 2004
    • 2105

    #481
    Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

    2010 Miami Heat = 1997 Lakers

    Team good enough to win a lot of games, a team with very skilled individual players. A team leaning towards running through one player to get the job done. So-So coach....

    2010 Celtics - 1997 Jazz.

    I think Boston's is going to over come the Miami chemistry come playoff time. It'll be Miami's East for a long time but this year I don't think they can out Celtic the Celtics at their own gameplan.

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #482
      Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by OSUFan_88
      I guess that depends.

      Our defense was plenty good enough to win a title.

      Our offense was not. And that was about 50% LeBron's fault because of his LeIso where he ignores everyone and just dribbles.
      Also the fault of a disappearing Mo Williams

      A Coach who had to let his assistant take over as he panicked on the sideline

      and it could go on and on, but they didnt have enough to win it all.


      Im not knocking CLE though, Just the ridiculousness of that post and somehow tying it into Miami.

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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #483
        Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Fiasco West
        Damp is a FA, it was a verbal agreement and was called off since Brooks got hurt (and Lowry is dealing with back issues) so they may need to hang onto Jermaine Taylor and that Houston is not looking like a playoff team so Dampier probably changed his mind as well.
        I thought he wa signed already... Thanks for the update though...Didn't know that.
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        • TMagic
          G.O.A.T.
          • Apr 2007
          • 7550

          #484
          Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

          I'd honestly be a little worried if I were a Heat fan.

          What stands out to me is that they are only 1-4 against playoff teams; i.e. "Good" teams in the league.

          That does not look good no matter how you look at it.

          They can can beat up on the lesser teams all they want. But if they can't beat the better teams in the league now, it's definitely not happening in the playoffs.
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          • ex carrabba fan
            I'll thank him for you
            • Oct 2004
            • 32744

            #485
            Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

            It's the third week though TMagic.

            Of course you get the random Laker fan posts of 'LeBron still doesn't have enough talent'. Not surprised by that BS as we are only in the third week of the season.

            I will say though Miami's problems are not going away anytime soon. It's going to be a puzzle to figure out because unless Wade/LBJ are going to the rack non-stop and getting fouled or converting, they can't space the floor well at all.

            Chris Bosh is looking anemic on both ends of the floor, I don't care that he has two dominant ball handlers as teammates, if you're an All-Star and a top 3-5 PF, you figure it out. That is a piss poor excuse for him to be playing the way he has been.

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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #486
              Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

              Ex... I just heard this comment from a co-worker... If you put Pau Gasol in Chris Bosh place. He would do much better than him" ..... What's your reaction?
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              • TMagic
                G.O.A.T.
                • Apr 2007
                • 7550

                #487
                Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

                I'm with you Ex.

                But why is it that Miami gets a pass for it being early in the season?

                It's not as if Miami is the only team that will get better as the season goes on. Most teams will get better as the season progresses. So I wouldn't expect it to get that much easier for them, especially as teams start to find better ways to play the Heat as they get more games under them. Teams will see what works against the Heat, and what doesn't as the season goes on.

                Like I said, I'd only be a "little" worried right now. No need to panic now, but if they continue losing to playoff teams, Heat fans should be biting their nails ala LeBron.
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                • da ThRONe
                  Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 8528

                  #488
                  Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by TMagic
                  I'm with you Ex.

                  But why is it that Miami gets a pass for it being early in the season?

                  It's not as if Miami is the only team that will get better as the season goes on. Most teams will get better as the season progresses. So I wouldn't expect it to get that much easier for them, especially as teams start to find better ways to play the Heat as they get more games under them. Teams will see what works against the Heat, and what doesn't as the season goes on.

                  Like I said, I'd only be a "little" worried right now. No need to panic now, but if they continue losing to playoff teams, Heat fans should be biting their nails ala LeBron.
                  I know this question wasnt address to me ,but Miami has the highest ceiling out of the teams. So you expect them to make the biggest improvement as their team gels.
                  You looking at the Chair MAN!

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #489
                    Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

                    Highest ceiling? Howso?

                    Because JVG said they'll win 70 games?

                    I can say they definitely need that legit threat in Mike Miller back on the perimeter but someone inside is going to have to get mean.

                    Thats going to sting in the playoffs. Truthfully LeBron should've worked on his post moves because he could be a pretty scary threat from the inside and opening up space. Bosh will never be that.... Im starting to think Miami would've been better off offering that dough to Dirk instead of Bosh

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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #490
                      Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by jeebs9
                      Ex... I just heard this comment from a co-worker... If you put Pau Gasol in Chris Bosh place. He would do much better than him" ..... What's your reaction?
                      I have no idea, real life isn't like a video game where you can just plug different players in and expect A, B and C to happen. I don't want to act like Pau would look worlds better, because right now that offense is in disarray, however Bosh just looks completely inept.

                      Pau's skill set has developed and he is much more versatile than Bosh is. Even though Pau still shows flashes of being soft, I would have to assume he'd look better than Chris does right now. At least Pau has a back to the basket game and has toughened up so he's an above average rebounder on both ends.
                      Originally posted by TMagic
                      I'm with you Ex.

                      But why is it that Miami gets a pass for it being early in the season?

                      It's not as if Miami is the only team that will get better as the season goes on. Most teams will get better as the season progresses. So I wouldn't expect it to get that much easier for them, especially as teams start to find better ways to play the Heat as they get more games under them. Teams will see what works against the Heat, and what doesn't as the season goes on.

                      Like I said, I'd only be a "little" worried right now. No need to panic now, but if they continue losing to playoff teams, Heat fans should be biting their nails ala LeBron.
                      They aren't getting a pass from me. I'm saying making snap judgments after three weeks is pointless. So there is definitely no need to panic. They need a feeling out period, it was silly to ever think the team was going to snap off the bat.

                      Like Born said their two best players are not jumpshooters. That is a major factor. They're gonna need Mike Miller to come back ASAP.

                      On the flipside, they are one of the best defensive teams in the league to start. Unfortunately their bigs are not playing to par on defense. They need to make some adjustments because toughness doesn't really come overnight.

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                      • TMagic
                        G.O.A.T.
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 7550

                        #491
                        Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

                        True. I can see that.

                        I guess I'm just a bit skeptical of much they really can "gel" right now based on what I've seen.

                        Right now, it just doesn't look like the big three are a good "fit" with each other. Their games just aren't complimenting each other well at all.

                        We'll just have to see if that changes anytime soon.
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                        • BlueNGold
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 21817

                          #492
                          Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

                          About the Heat, I know a lot of us expected them to run wild through the league right off the hop. Obviously that isn't the case. It's going to take time for them to find their identity.

                          All 3 of those superstars have to almost completely change the way they've been playing for the last 7 years or so. Wade has the least change to make, but LeBron and Bosh have to completely re-model their games. That's gonna take time.

                          Like its already been mentioned, it's only the third week of the season. I don't expect them to beat a well-oiled machine like Boston this early. I think they can beat Boston, but they need to have everyone's roles completely defined at that time.

                          I won't be surprised though if within the next month or 2, Spoelstra takes a little boat ride Fredo-style and Riles takes over. It's only a matter of time IMO.

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                          They're right in there with Orlando, Portland, Boston and Phoenix. I might be inclined to chuck OKC in there as well, and Boston can be laughably entertaining some nights, but I like my power rankings there.
                          I'm not much of a fan of Miami's either. They just annoy me for some reason.
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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #493
                            Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

                            On another note, it's been apparent since last year that Ty Lawson just makes the Nuggets that much more dangerous.

                            I'm not saying start him, but they need to seriously consider playing this guy wayyyyyy more.

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                            • da ThRONe
                              Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 8528

                              #494
                              Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by 23
                              Highest ceiling? Howso?

                              Because JVG said they'll win 70 games?

                              I can say they definitely need that legit threat in Mike Miller back on the perimeter but someone inside is going to have to get mean.

                              Thats going to sting in the playoffs. Truthfully LeBron should've worked on his post moves because he could be a pretty scary threat from the inside and opening up space. Bosh will never be that.... Im starting to think Miami would've been better off offering that dough to Dirk instead of Bosh
                              They have the most room for growth ie their ceiling is higher. I'm not saying they are clear cut the best team ,but we know what were getting from all the other preseason contenders.
                              You looking at the Chair MAN!

                              Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                              • Stumbleweed
                                Livin' the dream
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 6279

                                #495
                                Re: 11/8-11/14 Game Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                                On another note, it's been apparent since last year that Ty Lawson just makes the Nuggets that much more dangerous.

                                I'm not saying start him, but they need to seriously consider playing this guy wayyyyyy more.
                                Especially because Chauncey seems tired from the Summer or something... just doesn't have his legs yet it seems like. His %s are HORRIBLE right now and his defense is very suspect against anyone with some speed... I'd like to see them basically split time there, especially while they're trying to play smallball for long stretches until K-Mart and Bird get back.

                                That Ty, Afflalo, JR, Forbes, Harrington lineup tore the Lakers apart last night and really bothered them on defense... loved watching that. I want more of those unorthodox lineups and less of the unorthodox Chauncey + Ty lineup, which I still pretty much hate.
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