12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

[Dewie12]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

You really comparing that to the Baron Davis situation where he came in overweight 3 years in a row? Andre Miller is an iron man. It's ridiculous how little games he's missed. He has an old-man's game, his condition should never come into question.

Miller's style doesn't call for him to be in fantastic condition and from what I can recall the drill Miller didn't pass was just dumb. I'm sure if he ran it again he would have made the time.

My logic is pretty clear and simple: They told him he would start and yet they didn't. Now if Miller came into camp in absolute atrocious shape and it was apparent he hadn't done a damn thing to be ready to produce and help the team right away, that's a different story.

Wow. I think you just like one player and don't like another. Which is fine. But Baron Davis and Andre Miller do the same thing every year. Come into camp not in the best of shape. Start slow. Have stretches where they look dominant. Throw a hissy fit because the coach does something they don't like. In the end they are average to above average PG's.

But maybe Dre would have three point range if he had more legs and was in better shape? Maybe he could get back on defense? Yeah he doesn't get hurt but has he ever won anything in the NBA?

[Subversion]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

If the Knicks isolated Amare more, he'd have 50 and theyd have blown out the Celtics. But Chandler and fields had to chuck the ball every time they touched it. The pick and roll was weak with Amare. He mainly scores on isolation on this new team.

Also, there should have been .6 on the clock.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

Wow. I think you just like one player and don't like another. Which is fine. But Baron Davis and Andre Miller do the same thing every year. Come into camp not in the best of shape. Start slow. Have stretches where they look dominant. Throw a hissy fit because the coach does something they don't like. In the end they are average to above average PG's.

But maybe Dre would have three point range if he had more legs and was in better shape? Maybe he could get back on defense? Yeah he doesn't get hurt but has he ever won anything in the NBA?

Actually I like Baron Davis a ton more than Andre Miller.

You keep arguing different points than ones that I initially bring up. One point guard got paid franchise player money while the other was told he would be the starter and got paid like 7 or so mill a year. There is a difference whether you believe it or not, you certainly didn't bring up any valid points.

I'll drop it here.

[Dewie12]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

Actually I like Baron Davis a ton more than Andre Miller.

You keep arguing different points than ones that I initially bring up. One point guard got paid franchise player money while the other was told he would be the starter and got paid like 7 or so mill a year. There is a difference whether you believe it or not, you certainly didn't bring up any valid points.

I'll drop it here.

So we are talking about differences in 6 mil a year? Okay. So players that make a certain amount of money can show up out of shape and complain when they don't get a starting job.....or basically play like crap all year like Miller did in L.A.....just like Baron Davis.

Franchise money.....like Joe Johnson

[Dewie12]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

If the Knicks isolated Amare more, he'd have 50 and theyd have blown out the Celtics. But Chandler and fields had to chuck the ball every time they touched it. The pick and roll was weak with Amare. He mainly scores on isolation on this new team.

Also, there should have been .6 on the clock.

KG shut him down in the end though. He stopped him twice on isolations in the last 2-3 minutes. He crowded Amare more down the stretch than the beginning of the game.

But the Knicks run such good offense. Players in positions to make plays. As opposed to teams like the Bucks who basically never use Boguts post passing ability or Brandon Jennings speed.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

http://nba-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cb...48484/26470007

So stupid. EVERYTHING should be reviewable. If something needs to be reviewed, there shouldn't be a stupid rule that excludes it from being reviewed. This goes for all sports.

[LingeringRegime]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

I'm happy for Felton. Larry Brown's system kept him in handcuffs. We really miss him down here. I see that he still has the knack of hitting those quarter ending buzzer beaters.

[airjoca]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

Me too but I don't want J.R. Smith.

I say we somehow morph Korver and Brewer into one good player.

If Korver was a starter as he should be, he would get much better looks because the defence is concentrated on other players like Rose and Boozer.

When he plays with the rest of the bench guys, he never gets open looks. And hes the best shooter on that team.

[roadman]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

Holy crap, Ginobili traveled like CRAZY.

That is what Skiles said too after he saw the replay several times. I see Ginobili still flops and get's the benefit of the doubt. Bogut stood his ground like a frozen rope and they give it to Ginobili. Bogut also said his arm was mauled under the basket on the Bucks possession. I think the Spurs had some home cooking towards the end of the game.

Still, Bucks need to get a better shot at the end.

[Chrisksaint]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

Didn't actually watch the Hornets game last night, wasn't aware they were down by 22 at one point. Solid win then hopefully they can build on this. Marcus Thornton looked very explosive from all the highlight I saw, and judging by the minutes he had his defense must not have sucked that bad

[Beantown]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

That extra .2 seconds on the Amare shot would've made it incredibly close. .8 or .9, as Ray Allen said, and that's in without a doubt. .6, though, would've been the epitome of a buzzer beater, because Amare didn't miss the .4 by some ridiculous close margin, he was about .2 behind it.

Oh well, what an incredible game...the offensive explosion by both teams in the fourth where the teams scored 22 points in 2 minutes was awesome to watch. The Knicks are going to be a tough out in the playoffs this year and, as much as I hate any team that comes out of New York, they're fun to watch.

[JerseySuave4]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

And then the refs decided to choke back their whistle in the final minutes of the game. Felton gets taken down driving to the hoop = no call (which leads to a 3 at the other end). Stoudemire rises over Pierce who pushes him = no call.

I didn't notice any consistent bias from the refs.

I would have like to have seen NY win but gotta give it a rest about the .2 seconds after the refs gave Gallinari that foul call on the 3 point play. Gallo initiated the contact (if you can even call it contact), then acted like there was contact and got the call. So the Knicks got one there.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I just saw the Suns highlights from last night. Nash is doing pretty damn good without Amare even though a lot of people seem to not notice. Having one of his best FG% of his career while his 3PT% is down. Also one of his best scoring seasons of his career at this point.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

I think people notice just fine.

He will be an All-Star again this year.

Who has been more of a dud.. Ariza or Turk? SMH.

Also it's a darn shame Utah didn't keep Wes Matthews

[da ThRONe]

Re: 12/13-12/19 Game Discussion Thread

I just saw the Suns highlights from last night. Nash is doing pretty damn good without Amare even though a lot of people seem to not notice. Having one of his best FG% of his career while his 3PT% is down. Also one of his best scoring seasons of his career at this point.

Why would anybody think Nash scoring #'s would go down with A'mare departure? If anything he would have to score more points. My question would be his APG's not his PPG's.