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  • Basketball GURU
    MVP
    • Jul 2010
    • 1287

    #766
    Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

    Originally posted by Bumi
    Quick question. Didn't Durant and Rose play on the same FIBA team?
    Yea, what does that have to do with NBA MVP award?

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    • Pared
      Legen - WAIT FOR IT
      • Feb 2003
      • 39337

      #767
      Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

      We're getting further and further away from the MVP discussion fellas.
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      • PrettyT11
        MVP
        • Jul 2008
        • 3220

        #768
        Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

        Originally posted by iAM-IncReDiBLe-
        Weren't those games against Deron after he got traded to the Nets? Deron didn't shoot good at all with the Nets an ended up facilitating the ball more.
        One of them was with Utah and the other one was with the Nets.

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        • Bumi
          Banned
          • Sep 2010
          • 967

          #769
          Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

          Originally posted by Basketball GURU
          Yea, what does that have to do with NBA MVP award?
          Absolutely nothing.

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          • jeebs9
            Fear is the Unknown
            • Oct 2008
            • 47568

            #770
            Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
            I think "not having the ball in your hands to be effective" is a little overstated....

            especially when Durant is putting up 19 shots a game, only behind Kobe at 20

            not to derail the thread more than it already is lol
            Guys get too caught up in that. Just because Durant runs around screen to get a jumper. Doesn't make him any different from Carmelo, Kobe or LeBron. They are still getting up those shots regardless.
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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #771
              Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

              MVP race in my opinion is

              1.Derrick Rose
              2.LeBron James
              3.Dwight Howard
              4.Kobe Bryant
              5.Dirk
              6.Kevin Durant
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              • Altimus
                Chelsea, Assemble!
                • Nov 2004
                • 27283

                #772
                Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                I think "not having the ball in your hands to be effective" is a little overstated....

                especially when Durant is putting up 19 shots a game, only behind Kobe at 20

                not to derail the thread more than it already is lol
                Unless you're a big man. Howard will always go less noticed compared to ball handers like Rose, LBJ, Wade, etc.

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                • Yeah...THAT Guy
                  Once in a Lifetime Memory
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 17294

                  #773
                  Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

                  Originally posted by jeebs9
                  MVP race in my opinion is

                  1.Derrick Rose
                  2.LeBron James
                  3.Dwight Howard
                  4.Kobe Bryant
                  5.Dirk
                  6.Kevin Durant
                  Switch Dwight with LeBron and I'm good with that.

                  Going back to my spreadsheet real quick, I compared Rose and Westbrooks's games against CP3, DWill, Nash, Tony Parker, Andre Miller, Billups, Ellis/Curry, and each other.

                  Those guys shot 47.3% against Westbrook (Curry and Ellis absolutely destroyed the Thunder by the way). Westbrook shot 45.5% in those games. I think Rose shot 47% while his opponents shot 43%.
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                  • TheMatrix31
                    RF
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 52926

                    #774
                    Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

                    I'd say it's Rose/Howard/Dirk/Durant/LeBron/Ginobili/Kobe

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                    • Bumi
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 967

                      #775
                      Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

                      Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                      Switch Dwight with LeBron and I'm good with that.

                      Going back to my spreadsheet real quick, I compared Rose and Westbrooks's games against CP3, DWill, Nash, Tony Parker, Andre Miller, Billups, Ellis/Curry, and each other.

                      Those guys shot 47.3% against Westbrook (Curry and Ellis absolutely destroyed the Thunder by the way). Westbrook shot 45.5% in those games. I think Rose shot 47% while his opponents shot 43%.
                      Since we're still discussing the two, I thought I'd post this here. Found the stat interesting.

                      Westbrook recently joined a very small club. In the history of the NBA only five players have had 4000+ points, 1500+ assists, 1000+ rebounds, and 300+ steals in their first three seasons. These players are Oscar Robertson, Penny Hardaway, Chris Paul, Lebron James, and now Russell Westbrook.

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                      • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                        Next Miami Great
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 4285

                        #776
                        Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

                        ^^ Not bad

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                        • Basketball GURU
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 1287

                          #777
                          Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

                          Originally posted by Bumi
                          Since we're still discussing the two, I thought I'd post this here. Found the stat interesting.
                          Derrick rose joined an even smaller club, only two players has been able to score 2000 pts and dish out 600 ast in a season prior to turning 23 yrs.the big O was the other guy.


                          just throwing it out there.

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                          • Yeah...THAT Guy
                            Once in a Lifetime Memory
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 17294

                            #778
                            Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

                            Originally posted by Basketball GURU
                            Derrick rose joined an even smaller club, only two players has been able to score 2000 pts and dish out 600 ast in a season prior to turning 23 yrs.the big O was the other guy.


                            just throwing it out there.
                            Really is a golden age of PGs right now
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                            NBA: Bucks
                            MLB: Cubs
                            NCAA: Syracuse
                            Soccer: USMNT/DC United

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                            • cubsball899
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 1744

                              #779
                              Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

                              Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                              Really is a golden age of PGs right now
                              i really kind of wonder if these guys would be as good playing in the 80's 90's without the hand check rule... i'm not close to old enough to remember all that but i hear enough about it lol

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                              • Po Pimp
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2005
                                • 2249

                                #780
                                Re: 2010-11 NBA Regular Season MVP Discussion

                                Originally posted by cubsball899
                                i really kind of wonder if these guys would be as good playing in the 80's 90's without the hand check rule... i'm not close to old enough to remember all that but i hear enough about it lol
                                I think every player would be able to adjust to playing with the hand check rule. Mostly everyone grew up playing pickup ball where no fouls are called anyway.

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