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  • Dice
    Sitting by the door
    • Jul 2002
    • 6627

    #1

    Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

    WELL, here's one of those 'old time' players that didn't do the *LeBron* in a quest to win a championship.




    BOSTON – Reggie Miller had come to his old friend’s neighborhood gym in the Malibu Hills, searching for a voice to trust, an honest assessment on this most tantalizing proposition. The Boston Celtics had asked Miller to come out of a two-year retirement in the summer of 2007 and chase a championship with Kevin Garnett(notes), Paul Pierce(notes) and Ray Allen(notes). The shots dropped out of the sky at the Calabasas Community Center, out of all those years past, and it barely mattered that Miller was the ungodly age of 42.

    “My suggestion to him was, ‘Go for it,’ ” his old Pacers point guard, Mark Jackson, says now. “He had it in his tank to play again.”

    Eventually, Allen would’ve passed Miller’s 3-point record, but Miller could’ve created a greater gulf in the 2007-08 season. Over and over, Miller believed he was close to picking up the phone, calling Boston general manager Danny Ainge and telling him he wanted to do it. He had gone into the gym long and hard that summer and tried to get back into shape to ultimately make the call on the comeback. Here was an old boxer returning to the heavy bag to see what was left in those legs, in that flick of a wrist.

    With the way he was working, with the glowing reports from Garnett, Miller’s workout partner in Malibu, Ainge had come to believe Miller was destined to play for the Celtics.

    “I thought there was a good chance he was coming to come play for us,” Ainge says. “He was going hard at it with two-a-days and really working to make it happen. We were very serious. …We wanted him.”

    Looking back, Miller has never been clear on the reason he turned down the job offer – except that he had come to the cusp of accepting it. Even now, Ainge isn’t sure. Miller declined to discuss it, but Jackson never believed it was because Miller couldn’t still play, or that the desire was gone.

    “It was not wanting to wear another uniform, and not wanting to feel like somebody else got him a ring,” Jackson says.

    To his core, Miller had such deep love and loyalty to those 18 years with the Indiana Pacers. The Celtics hadn’t been the first team to offer him a chance to return to the NBA. Mark Cuban called him to play with Dirk Nowitzki(notes). Cleveland Cavaliers GM Danny Ferry wanted him to play with LeBron James(notes). To Miller, it never felt right for his legacy. He did the rare thing: He retired when he was still an outstanding player, and he couldn’t be lured back when Mark Jackson and Garnett were working out with him, telling him he still could make a difference.

    “I knew Reggie wouldn’t do it unless he felt he could still contribute,” Ainge says. “But you know, I think Reggie was probably wise in turning it down. A lot of players hang on too long and start playing against the guys of the next generation and they end up just remembering the 42-year-old Reggie Miller – and not the guy who was one of the best players in the game for almost two decades.”

    The Celtics never did get Miller, but they ended up with his worthy heir: Allen. He’s one 3-pointer short of tying the record of 2,560, and it could come on the immense stage of a Celtics-Los Angeles Lakers game on Thursday night at the Boston Garden. Miller will be courtside, calling the game on cable television. Ainge marvels over Allen, over the way he’s playing his best basketball as a Celtic beyond his 35th birthday. “He’s still the Ray of when he first got here, and maybe even better than his first season because he was coming off ankle surgery,” Ainge says.

    He isn’t simply running to the 3-point line, catching and shooting. He’s scoring every way possible, and this doesn’t happen with NBA shooting guards at such an advanced age. Allen will play well into his late 30s barring a major injury, but that NBA title in ’08 probably means he’ll never be faced with the fortysomething temptations of Miller to come out of retirement and keep shooting.

    After all those years in Milwaukee and Seattle, Boston has represented so much for Allen’s career. Here, he won a title. He made himself an undeniable Hall of Famer. He’ll be remembered as a Celtic, and no one would’ve thought that when the Big Three was thrown together in 2007. Who knows how Miller would’ve impacted those Celtics in that season, how the chemistry would’ve been affected. Miller stayed away, kept pure his Pacers legacy, and now he comes to the Garden to watch Allen pass his record.

    “I know he could’ve helped,” Jackson says of Miller. “And I don’t think he would’ve been stealing a ring. He would’ve contributed.”

    Whatever the case, Reggie Miller will still have to stop, take a peek to the rafters and see that 17th championship banner dangling and privately ask himself: What if?
    I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X
  • HHHRVD55
    Pro
    • Jul 2004
    • 522

    #2
    Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

    I remember that summer and all the rumors of him coming back and joining the Celtics. I think it would have been a shame if he had. He might have had some good work outs and all but once he got into an NBA game and tried playing even fifteen minutes a night for 82 games, his body would have given out on him.

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    • JB32
      Banned
      • Aug 2010
      • 160

      #3
      Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

      Good for Reggie. I'm glad he didn't go against what he believes in just to win a ring.

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      • Noles4ever
        MVP
        • Apr 2010
        • 1675

        #4
        Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

        good for him. I always thought he'd retire as a pacer with or without a ring, didn't seem to be the one like Karl Malone, Gary Payton type.

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        • mvspree8
          Pro
          • Mar 2007
          • 580

          #5
          Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

          I don't necessarily believe that he decided to stay retired out of love for the Pacers. If he really loved them, he wouldn't have started working out with the Celtics. I think he was away from the game for too long (was it 3 or 4 years?) and he just couldn't get to the point where he'd feel valuable as a role player. He just couldn't get his body where it needed to be.

          And this is nothing like LeBron's situation, OP. LeBron abandoned his team in the prime of his career. I have nothing against veterans on their last legs trying to go out as winners. I wouldn't have held it against Reggie if he worked his *** off, signed with the Celtics, and won a championship while playing 10mpg. I'm sure that wouldn't have been his first preference, but I'd rather get one that way than not at all. Totally different from LeBron, who decided to form the Miami Backstreet Boys through very suspicious, borderline collusion.

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          • BATMON
            Banned
            • Oct 2010
            • 1445

            #6
            Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

            Originally posted by mvspree8
            And this is nothing like LeBron's situation, OP. LeBron abandoned (fufilled the contract) his team in the prime of his career.
            Another LeBron thread?

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            • z Revis
              Hall Of Fame
              • Oct 2008
              • 13639

              #7
              Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

              Yeah, I remember this. I wouldn't have blamed him or held it against him if he came back to win a ring. His legacy would still live in Indiana. I actually would've been happy for him and definitely would've rooted for the Celtics that year.
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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47565

                #8
                Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

                ^^I totally agree ^^

                But I remember this too... What I wonder is how he would of fit on that team. He wasn't too defensive as the crew they had. I don't know where he would of fit. That group was a very defensive group outside of Eddie House.
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                • Kashanova
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 12695

                  #9
                  Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

                  why are people calling it the lebron? why not the gary payton? the karl malone?

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                  • iAM-IncReDiBLe-
                    Next Miami Great
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 4285

                    #10
                    Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

                    Recent memory makes it easier to say LeBron then Payton or Malone.

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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #11
                      Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

                      Originally posted by Kashanova
                      why are people calling it the lebron? why not the gary payton? the karl malone?
                      Just another way to take a shot I guess, because it has nothing to do with him or his situation...

                      We could rattle off a huge list of veterans at the end of their career who joined a contender to get that elusive ring....and that would be applicable..

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                      • HHHRVD55
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 522

                        #12
                        Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

                        Miller is different than Malone or Payton tho. In Malone's case, he could still play basketball at a high level and after Stockton left, he wanted to win a ring so he went to the best place to win that ring. Miller, tho, had been out of the game for a few years, and there is no way he could've played a full season at a high level.

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                        • travis72
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1491

                          #13
                          Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

                          I'm glad Reggie stayed retired but I would have been happy for him if he would have decided to join the Celtics for a ring as I do like the celtics as well and root for them when they are not playing my Pacers. Reggie's a loyal guy and I think putting on another uniform jsut did not suit him in the end.

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                          • BATMON
                            Banned
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1445

                            #14
                            Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

                            I would have no problem if Reggie was persuaded out of retirement right AFTER he retired.

                            But to be asked after a couple of seasons seemed to forced IMO. Reggie did workout to see if he could do it, but realized the long season would render him ineffective.

                            As much as folks love to cheer for those lone loyalist/purists, no matter who you play for will not diminish what u have done previously.

                            Malone - Lakers
                            Dominique - Celtics
                            Ewing - Supersonics
                            Walton - Celtics
                            LeBron - Heat
                            Pippen - Portland
                            Rasheed - Detroit/Boston
                            Shaq - Phoenix,Cleveland,Boston
                            Frazier - Cleveland
                            Drexler - Rockets

                            But im glad he didnt go.
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                            • Jasong7777
                              All Star
                              • May 2005
                              • 6415

                              #15
                              Re: Miller passed on a chance to join the Celtics in 2007

                              Originally posted by BATMON
                              Malone - Lakers
                              Dominique - Celtics
                              Ewing - Supersonics
                              Walton - Celtics
                              LeBron - Heat
                              Pippen - Portland
                              Rasheed - Detroit/Boston
                              Shaq - Phoenix,Cleveland,Boston
                              Frazier - Cleveland
                              Drexler - Rockets
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