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  • mvb34
    S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
    • Jul 2002
    • 8138

    #76
    Re: Is 82 games too many?

    Originally posted by da ThRONe
    I don't see how this would be a problem with a 56 game schedule. It would just make the games more important which is a good thing. The sport does not need the better(often veteran heavy) teams coasting it hurts the regular season.

    If you come out of the gates slow or get bored and go on a few mini losing streaks your in jeopardy of missing home court or the playoffs all together. As apposed to being able to start slow have some weeks in the season you day dream or rest then still have enough season to make a late push for a top 3 spot. It's that lack of urgency IMO that turns a lot of casual fans(some of the more hardcore ones aswell) off to the regular season. I rather have an exciting regular season with the T'Wolves and Clippers 1 and 2 seeds than a less exciting season with the Lakers and Mavs on top.
    A shorten season wont make a difference for the teams if the don't build there team correctly.. In 1999 when the NBA season was 50 games I don't rememer it being in difference in excitement then the 82 game schedule
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    • da ThRONe
      Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
      • Mar 2009
      • 8528

      #77
      Re: Is 82 games too many?

      Originally posted by mvb34
      A shorten season wont make a difference for the teams if the don't build there team correctly.. In 1999 when the NBA season was 50 games I don't rememer it being in difference in excitement then the 82 game schedule
      I think having a season shorten by lock out doesn't compare to changing it via the CBA. A lot of the reason they should shorten the season wasn't implemented. Plus I think the whole situation left a bad taste in fans mouths.

      And ofcourse the Clippers and Wolves won't compete with poor management. I was just making a point. He was saying that we won't get accurate seeding and my point was who ever is a top the leader board when the season ends should be there. We saw a 1 seed get knock out this year in the 1st round. Was that an accuracy issue?
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      • Freak123
        Pro
        • Sep 2010
        • 981

        #78
        Re: Is 82 games too many?

        Originally posted by da ThRONe
        I think having a season shorten by lock out doesn't compare to changing it via the CBA. A lot of the reason they should shorten the season wasn't implemented. Plus I think the whole situation left a bad taste in fans mouths.

        And ofcourse the Clippers and Wolves won't compete with poor management. I was just making a point. He was saying that we won't get accurate seeding and my point was who ever is a top the leader board when the season ends should be there. We saw a 1 seed get knock out this year in the 1st round. Was that an accuracy issue?
        I'm just saying, homecourt advantage does make a difference, even if it didn't for a team. I would personally rather see the more talented teams on top of the standings as they are the best teams, but maybe that's just me. Also, players are people, they can't have their heads in the game all of the time, so coasting is something that's going to happen no matter what. That's why I'm saying, it would give them a smaller margin of error, which isn't really fair for them as it's hard to be totally focused on the game every night as they have personal issues as well. For example, Heat forward Udonis Haslem's mother died during the playoffs, that had to be tough on him and there is no way he was all the way focused on the game. Just doesn't seem very fair to me, even if it does cut down on fatigue.

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        • da ThRONe
          Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
          • Mar 2009
          • 8528

          #79
          Re: Is 82 games too many?

          Originally posted by Freak123
          I'm just saying, homecourt advantage does make a difference, even if it didn't for a team. I would personally rather see the more talented teams on top of the standings as they are the best teams, but maybe that's just me. Also, players are people, they can't have their heads in the game all of the time, so coasting is something that's going to happen no matter what. That's why I'm saying, it would give them a smaller margin of error, which isn't really fair for them as it's hard to be totally focused on the game every night as they have personal issues as well. For example, Heat forward Udonis Haslem's mother died during the playoffs, that had to be tough on him and there is no way he was all the way focused on the game. Just doesn't seem very fair to me, even if it does cut down on fatigue.
          Mental toughness is apart of the game. We all have fights with our spouses, get sick, have family issues, etc. Part of getting paid millions of dollars is being able to compartmentalize those problems, go out there and perform at a high level anyways. Sure Haslem mom dying is an extreme exception, but that isn't the norm. And if something extreme like that happens 26 games aren't going to matter anyways.

          We saw Pau Gasol let a dispute completely take him out of the post-season. Nobody is crying for the Lakers as well they shouldn't.
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          • ironblood
            Rookie
            • Jul 2011
            • 9

            #80
            Re: Is 82 games too many?

            Hey guys, first time poster. I just found the thread topic really interesting and wanted to weigh in myself.

            I absolutely agree with the OP in regards to the shortened regular season. There is absolutely no reason for a sport as physically demanding as Basketball to be stretched out across the span of 82 games, especially considering that more than half of the teams in the entire league will make the playoffs regardless of overall record. It completely undermines the importance of the regular season.

            A shortened regular season, a bigger emphasis on divisional play, and a playoff system similar to that of the NFL would greatly benefit in the product. 6 teams from each conference with the top seeds getting a bye.

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            • mvb34
              S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
              • Jul 2002
              • 8138

              #81
              Re: Is 82 games too many?

              Originally posted by ironblood
              Hey guys, first time poster. I just found the thread topic really interesting and wanted to weigh in myself.

              I absolutely agree with the OP in regards to the shortened regular season. There is absolutely no reason for a sport as physically demanding as Basketball to be stretched out across the span of 82 games, especially considering that more than half of the teams in the entire league will make the playoffs regardless of overall record. It completely undermines the importance of the regular season.

              A shortened regular season, a bigger emphasis on divisional play, and a playoff system similar to that of the NFL would greatly benefit in the product. 6 teams from each conference with the top seeds getting a bye.
              Physically demanding? basketball is the second least demanding of all the major sports.. There is lot of problems with the NBA, 82 games ain't onre of them..
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              • da ThRONe
                Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                • Mar 2009
                • 8528

                #82
                Re: Is 82 games too many?

                Originally posted by mvb34
                Physically demanding? basketball is the second least demanding of all the major sports.. There is lot of problems with the NBA, 82 games ain't onre of them..
                2nd least? I seriously doubt that. Do you or have you ever played basketball? I think if you had you would change your mind. Any sport that requires that much jumping is always demanding. Not sure about the hockey but hoops is up there.
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                • mvb34
                  S**c*d* P**l C*-Ch*mp**n
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 8138

                  #83
                  Re: Is 82 games too many?

                  Originally posted by da ThRONe
                  2nd least? I seriously doubt that. Do you or have you ever played basketball? I think if you had you would change your mind. Any sport that requires that much jumping is always demanding. Not sure about the hockey but hoops is up there.
                  Coming dude you sounding soft!!! If jumping is physical what do you call be hitting by another person?
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                  • da ThRONe
                    Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 8528

                    #84
                    Re: Is 82 games too many?

                    Originally posted by mvb34
                    Coming dude you sounding soft!!! If jumping is physical what do you call be hitting by another person?
                    Yes jumping, it's killer on the knees. Once your knee's are done so are you.
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                    • NINJAK2
                      *S *dd*ct
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 6185

                      #85
                      Re: Is 82 games too many?

                      Originally posted by da ThRONe
                      Yes jumping, it's killer on the knees. Once your knee's are done so are you.
                      Basketball is demanding on the body no doubt but I don't understand why all of a sudden 82 games is too long a season. Owners allowed these salaries to get out of control and now they are paying the price. They paid too many bums way too much cash and there is no way they are in a financial position to slash games off the schedule. Slashing games could equate to higher ticket prices per game which could possibly equate to more people not going to the games. The economy is in the toilet and owners/players need to adjust accordingly. Your idea of having a set day for games is a great idea but a hard cap would probably do more to better the sport than a gutted schedule. Everyone would be able to compete which is a big reason why the nfl is king imo.
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                      • da ThRONe
                        Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 8528

                        #86
                        Re: Is 82 games too many?

                        Originally posted by NINJAK2
                        Basketball is demanding on the body no doubt but I don't understand why all of a sudden 82 games is too long a season. Owners allowed these salaries to get out of control and now they are paying the price. They paid too many bums way too much cash and there is no way they are in a financial position to slash games off the schedule. Slashing games could equate to higher ticket prices per game which could possibly equate to more people not going to the games. The economy is in the toilet and owners/players need to adjust accordingly. Your idea of having a set day for games is a great idea but a hard cap would probably do more to better the sport than a gutted schedule. Everyone would be able to compete which is a big reason why the nfl is king imo.
                        I think players health would be the least important reason to cut games. Clearly injuries aren't killing the sport, but it is an area I feel can be improved by reducing the season.
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                        • ironblood
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 9

                          #87
                          Re: Is 82 games too many?

                          Injuries is not at the forefront of the argument. It's certainly something to think about, but it's not the sole reason for suggesting the shorter season. The main reason is still ensuring that the regular season matters.

                          Ever hear the phrase "less is more"? I very much look forward to the day where you could have meaningful games all season long, rather than just in the playoffs.

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                          • RedSceptile
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 3680

                            #88
                            Re: Is 82 games too many?

                            A majority of revenue is generated by the casual T.V. market, that's why sponsorship, advertising, and network marketing deals are so sought after. Owners know that the every day guy isn't gonna go and buy a season ticket, hell even go to an NBA game instead focus on watching on T.V./Internet/Phone etc. Sure the tickets are a big drawing but the biggest market is the viewer market.

                            I dont know about you guys but I don't even watch all 82 games of my team, personally I'd like to see a drop to a 60-66 game season with 6 teams per conference. The regular season for most teams doesn't even matter as much as they know they'll make it to the playoffs as long as they're better than at least 8 other teams in their conference. I say make the regular season matter more, make division and conference games matter more, make players lose a lot off the wear and tear on their bodies increasing their career longevity, make teams travel less (ergo accommodate players less) and getting into the playoffs far more competitive.

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                            • mKoz26
                              In case you forgot...
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 4685

                              #89
                              Re: Is 82 games too many?

                              Originally posted by NINJAK2
                              Basketball is demanding on the body no doubt but I don't understand why all of a sudden 82 games is too long a season. Owners allowed these salaries to get out of control and now they are paying the price. They paid too many bums way too much cash and there is no way they are in a financial position to slash games off the schedule. Slashing games could equate to higher ticket prices per game which could possibly equate to more people not going to the games. The economy is in the toilet and owners/players need to adjust accordingly. Your idea of having a set day for games is a great idea but a hard cap would probably do more to better the sport than a gutted schedule. Everyone would be able to compete which is a big reason why the nfl is king imo.
                              Nobody's saying that shortening the schedule alone will fix the NBA's financial issues.

                              Many think it would chip into that deficit, though.
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                              • Moses Shuttlesworth
                                AB>
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 9435

                                #90
                                Re: Is 82 games too many?

                                Originally posted by mvb34
                                Coming dude you sounding soft!!! If jumping is physical what do you call be hitting by another person?
                                Physically demanding and physical are two different things, but either way, basketball is both. Don't know how you can argue that.

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