NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[da ThRONe]

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I think a deal is going to get done. Worst case scenario we end up losing November. This isnt going to be like 1998. The public isnt going to stomach a long lockout when the country is going through a recession.

I like the fact that both sides have meetings scheduled for tomorrow and are no longer playing the game through the press.

Not trying to be funny, but what does the recession have to do with the lockout?

I do agree I think we may lose like 10 games tops. I do however think if this isn't solved by mid-Oct. they may cancel the whole season.

[Dice]

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Not trying to be funny, but what does the recession have to do with the lockout?

I do agree I think we may lose like 10 games tops. I do however think if this isn't solved by mid-Oct. they may cancel the whole season.

Not a lot BUT the recession has some effect on the lockout. Sports for sometime has become a billion dollar/year business. And just like with any business, recessions are very polarizing. They either bring out the best or the worst in people. In the case of the NBA, this lockout has brought out the worst in both the owners and the players.

[aholbert32]

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Not trying to be funny, but what does the recession have to do with the lockout?

I do agree I think we may lose like 10 games tops. I do however think if this isn't solved by mid-Oct. they may cancel the whole season.

Plenty. Public perception is one of the reasons the 1998 lockout came to a stop. People began to view the players as greedy and pressure began to mount on their side. That public perception occurred during a time when the country was financially stable. How does it look for either side if they are fighting over a 3 billion dollar difference in aggregate revenues when the country has 9.1% unemployment. Public pressure and perception will be one of the driving forces that ends the lockout.

Also the global recession limits the amount of money many players will be offered overseas. Those dollars are already drying up and could affect the players' willingness to negotiate.

[Dice]

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I hope Chris Sheridan is right on this one. I normally take his reports with a grain of salt, BUT even as a pessimist on this issue I'm praying that he's right on the money with this one.

I'd hate to say it BUT if the NBA gets a deal done and starts the season on time, I'm campaigning Sheridan for a Pulitzer prize. LOL!

[da ThRONe]

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In 98' I wasn't a huge fan of the basketball. It was mostly football. So I'm not overly familiar with the "why's" things worked out. You would think during a recession people would care less about basketball altogether, or understand the need for players to get as much vs. "the powers that be".

[The 24th Letter]

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Over the last couple of weeks ive become more and more confident that a deal will get done....I agree with Sheridans timeline and hopefully its on base.

[23]

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I hope Chris Sheridan is right on this one. I normally take his reports with a grain of salt, BUT even as a pessimist on this issue I'm praying that he's right on the money with this one.

I'd hate to say it BUT if the NBA gets a deal done and starts the season on time, I'm campaigning Sheridan for a Pulitzer prize. LOL!

I wouldnt vote him in for anything, but if I did, it would be because i heard he no longer works for BSPN

[Basketball GURU]

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/215489/Owners_Propose_Adding_Third_Round_Of_Draft

Owners Propose Adding Third Round Of Draft

"Under one proposal," writes Sheridan, "the 15 teams with the worst records would continue to pick 1st through 15th, but then would also have the 16th through 30th picks. The teams with the top 15 records would have the first 15 picks of the second round, then would have the 44th through 60th picks.
"Under another proposal, the teams with the eight worst records would get an additional first round pick, beginning with selection No. 22, and the teams with the eight best records would have no first-round picks but would select at the top of the second round (picks 31 through 38), then also would get the final eight picks of the second round."

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Second proposal makes sense and I'd could roll with that.

From CBS' Ken Berger:

Fisher and Hunter stopped short of saying the point of compromise has been reached. Fisher: It won't happen "until deal is done."

Another round of talks are scheduled for tomorrow and maybe Friday as well, accoding to CBS Sports.

[da ThRONe]

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...Round_Of_Draft
Owners Propose Adding Third Round Of Draft

I really don't like these ideas. The big market teams would still just get all these top players once they are FA's problem still exist.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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You sure about that?

[da ThRONe]

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You sure about that?

If this is the only answer for competition yes. It's what happens now. See no reason why this would stop it.

[Jasong7777]

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...Round_Of_Draft
Owners Propose Adding Third Round Of Draft

Won't help.

[Gibbz]

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Mason claimed he was "hacked" but here's a story about his deleted tweet. Saw it on the Spurs board:

http://www.slcdunk.com/2011/9/7/2411440/roger-mason-jr-and-the-case-of-40404-not-found

[Dice]

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Heck, I hope he's right.

I do like the fact that they are keeping these talks under wraps and away from the media. I’m pretty sure there are some harsh word between the sides that probably wouldn’t be re-printed anyway.

And I’ll be the first to say it BUT it’ll amaze me that a deal would be done to start the season on time while the negotiation is being handled by guys that I pinpointed that was detrimental to that goal. I have said that Stern, Fisher, Hunter and Silver are all holding up the process. BUT if this deal gets done, I’d gladly eat crow for the sake of watching NBA basketball.