NBA Lockout and Collective Bargaining Agreement Discussion

[RoyalBoyle78]

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So finally caught up on the last few pages of the discussion and...alrighty.

So now I'm to gather from all this that players are bad for wanting to be paid the most money possible? Those stupid non robot *******s being all human and what not.

If my job wanted to pay me 700 hundred dollars an hour I'm a jerkhole for taking that deal as opposed to saying 'nah give me something less than that?' Somebody is smoking something in this thread and it ain't J_Posse

Dude they get paid well already, like is said NBA players are overpaid, crap hockey players should make more money the NBA players, they have the nerve to want mode, man they need to give that crap a break.

[Court_vision]

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What Wade doesn't realise is that if he got $50 million the sport itself would die off quickly and other guys would essentially be getting nothing.

Have no cap and have one team like LA or NY rolling with a line up of 5 all stars and 3 more coming off the bench and being able to pay 10 times more than smaller teams = game over...zero interest about who would win...NBA dead in a few years.

A few players may be worth $50 million but it would kill the game itself long term.

The same game that has given them this chance. Take your $10 million a season and STFU and start thinking about the game rather than yourself...

[DukeC]

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It has gotten to the point where I'm contemplating whether or not the league should release every player and scrap the current system, as the salaries are inflated for the most part. Comwe up with a better system, preferably with a hard cap or something like that.

Then, have a massive free-agency overhaul. Every team gets a pick, unless they trade it away. The best teams from this season (Based on record) get first pick, since they earned that right.

This idea is a horrible idea, but i'm reasonably certain it's better than anything they can come up with

[The 24th Letter]

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Maybe players shouldnt get paid at all and play for the "love of the game".....like "back in the day". LOL you guys kill me.

I thought we had enough knowledge of the situation at this point to know the lockout isnt about NBA players arent asking for "more money" SMH

As for Wade, he represents a side.....I have no problem with him speaking up...especially knowing how Stern is w\ his smug ***. Or are we going to pretend thats not how Stern is now b\c one of the "greedy" players stood up?

[tehova]

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Maybe players shouldnt get paid at all and play for the "love of the game".....like "back in the day". LOL you guys kill me.

I thought we had enough knowledge of the situation at this point to know the lockout isnt about NBA players arent asking for "more money" SMH

As for Wade, he represents a side.....I have no problem with him speaking up...especially knowing how Stern is w\ his smug ***. Or are we going to pretend thats not how Stern is now b\c one of the "greedy" players stood up?

Let them play for scholarships, they're reward is their education

[Court_vision]

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Maybe players shouldnt get paid at all and play for the "love of the game".....like "back in the day". LOL you guys kill me.

Appreciating and respecting the past does not mean "play for love of the game" man..........if you want to draw extremes to make a point, you can do better than that.

It means respecting the past......appreciating what you have now...and thinking of the future legacy.....

Wade is basically an A class you know what. As a person he has few redeeming qualities. He's a womaniser, he's an egotist.....there's not a lot to be said for him as a person. He's also barely able to string a coherent sentence together. It's best on all levels that he just STFU on this.

[The 24th Letter]

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Let them play for scholarships, they're reward is their education

Then who will we whine about?

actors? surgeons?

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Hold on I'm confused: Who said anything about the players and how much they should make? Unless I'm missing something here...

And supposedly, this is why Wade said something to Stern:

It was at this point that Wade took exception to Stern's tone and gesturing -- the commissioner evidently was pointing his finger while speaking to the players -- and "stood up for himself," a person with knowledge of the meeting said. According to ESPN, Wade warned Stern, "You're not pointing your finger at me. I'm not your child."

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/32397186

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Appreciating and respecting the past does not mean "play for love of the game" man..........if you want to draw extremes to make a point, you can do better than that.

It means respecting the past......appreciating what you have now...and thinking of the future legacy.....

Wade is basically an A class you know what. As a person he has few redeeming qualities. He's a womaniser, he's an egotist.....there's not a lot to be said for him as a person. He's also barely able to string a coherent sentence together. It's best on all levels that he just STFU on this.

Yeah you really don't know any of this for a fact so maybe it's best you don't speak on things that you don't know.

[The 24th Letter]

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Appreciating and respecting the past does not mean "play for love of the game" man..........if you want to draw extremes to make a point, you can do better than that.

It means respecting the past......appreciating what you have now...and thinking of the future legacy.....

Wade is basically an A class you know what. As a person he has few redeeming qualities. He's a womaniser, he's an egotist.....there's not a lot to be said for him as a person. He's also barely able to string a coherent sentence together. It's best on all levels that he just STFU on this.

What does any of that have to do with the lockout? Its the same old "I watched ball in the 90's" rhetoric thats constantly been spewed during this whole thing...Everyone knows the players arent going to "win" this lockout... but even your beloved players on the 90s wouldnt take a raw deal b\c they "make enough" makes no sense at all.

As far as Wade... You dont know Wade any better than I do. You dont know what was said in that room either. You want to talk about respecting the past? lets go back to not judging people off of TV and TMZ...

[Court_vision]

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What does any of that have to do with the lockout? Its the same old "I watched ball in the 90's rhetroic thats constantly been spewed during this whole thing...Everyone knows the players arent going to "win" this lockout... but even your beloved players on the 90s wouldnt take a raw deal b\c they "make enough" makes no sense at all.

As far as Wade... You dont know Wade any better than I do. You dont know what was said in that room either. You want to talk about respecting the past? lets go back to not judging people off of TV and TMZ...

A: Beloved 90s...where did I say that or half of the stuff you are quoting? Where did I say the 90s guys deserved more?

B: Go and read Wade's court records and transcripts and then determine how "nice a guy" he is.

C: Using laughing icons to make your point is kind of demeening bro.

I am happy to argue this stuff, so there's no need to make stuff up.

BTW The sport didn't start in the 90s.

[OSUFan_88]

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The players cannot have guaranteed contracts and not be willing to give up any money to the owners at the same time. It just doesn't work like that. There is not give or take.

As for how much they earn, don't give a flying ****. Personally, I don't see what's so hard about this: Owners give players a means to an end and players give owners entertainment and little profit. So what's so hard about saying "Hey, I understand that without you, we don't have a league, so we'll give/take what you need/deserve."

Whatever. Please go back to your regularly scheduled bitch and moan fest.

[The 24th Letter]

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B: Go and read Wade's court records and transcripts and then determine how "nice a guy" he is..

Seriously man? yeah, I think I know where your coming from now. Dont worry about it....you got it.

The players cannot have guaranteed contracts and not be willing to give up any money to the owners at the same time. It just doesn't work like that. There is not give or take.

As for how much they earn, don't give a flying ****. Personally, I don't see what's so hard about this: Owners give players a means to an end and players give owners entertainment and little profit. So what's so hard about saying "Hey, I understand that without you, we don't have a league, so we'll give/take what you need/deserve."

Whatever. Please go back to your regularly scheduled bitch and moan fest.

I actualy agree with you.... I just dont agree that the "give\take" part is as simple as that..

[OSUFan_88]

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Seriously man? yeah, I think I know where your coming from now. Dont worry about it....you got it.



I actualy agree with you.... I just dont agree that the "give\take" part is as simple as that..

Why should the owners or players get more than the other?

Without the other, they are making no money.

[The 24th Letter]

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Why should the owners or players get more than the other?

Without the other, they are making no money.

I can definitely agree with that...