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    Forever A Legend
    • Sep 2008
    • 2809

    #46
    Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

    Originally posted by kobestopper50
    Lebron hasnt won anything either,been to the Finals twice and lost but he considered the best player in the league. Sometimes its not about stats.
    I never said anything about Lebron James but if you want to bring him up thats perfectly alright. I HATE Lebron with a burning passion but you have to recognize his talent and have respect for his game as he is one of a kind. Say what you want about the man when it comes to in the clutch situations and loyalty but he is an absolute monster on the court. His skills and his physical make up are impeccable and he will go down as one of the greatest players we have ever seen.


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    • kobestopper50
      Rookie
      • Apr 2007
      • 288

      #47
      Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

      talented yes,clutch nope but i hate the fact that the media has anointed him the best
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      • st0rmb11
        All Star
        • Nov 2008
        • 5167

        #48
        Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

        Originally posted by poopydude
        When i think Reggie Miller I think of a fantastic shooter who killed the Knicks and that is exactly what he was. I'm not taking away any of his accomplishments of the hardwood but Reggie is over hyped. He got a good amount of exposure from the New York Media and all of a sudden people thought he was a superstar. Reggie Miller was a very good Basketball player who could stroke it from long range. His Stats aren't overly impressive (with the exception of the 3 point record he used to hold) he never won a title or an MVP and he was not a consistent all star. A very good, clutch player? With out a doubt but a Legend? No he is not.
        SMH. guys, the Pacers beat the Knicks 1 out of 3 times in the playoffs. Hardly "killing" them.

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        • RedSceptile
          MVP
          • Jun 2011
          • 3680

          #49
          Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

          Originally posted by kobestopper50
          talented yes,clutch nope but i hate the fact that the media has anointed him the best
          Go figure the media also turned Reggie Miller into some superstar when he's actually a 2nd-3rd option at best. Also clutch is subjective do some research and you'll see "clutch" is a marketing ploy by BSPN and other sporting channels. It's funny how when they talk about "clutch" they glorify scoring on things such as jumpshots but not making a good defensive play, or making the correct pass (i.e. Chris Paul).

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          • Colts18
            MVP
            • Feb 2010
            • 1959

            #50
            Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

            My students were learning about patriotism and to get through to some of the guys who were more interested in sports than school, I showed some of a Dream Team game from Barcelona in '92 so they could see even overseas, Americans showed up with flags and their faces painted red, white, and blue. The ONLY person any kid could name--and I had about 150 students that year--was Michael Jordan. And don't kid yourselves--they knew Jordan from his shoes and not from his little stint in the NBA. One boy, trying to show his knowledge, said, "There go Dr. J! There go Dr. J!" Dr. J on the Dream Team? WOW again.
            When you corrected him, what did he say.

            What do you teach?

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            • kobestopper50
              Rookie
              • Apr 2007
              • 288

              #51
              Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

              Originally posted by RedSceptile
              Go figure the media also turned Reggie Miller into some superstar when he's actually a 2nd-3rd option at best. Also clutch is subjective do some research and you'll see "clutch" is a marketing ploy by BSPN and other sporting channels. It's funny how when they talk about "clutch" they glorify scoring on things such as jumpshots but not making a good defensive play, or making the correct pass (i.e. Chris Paul).
              Reggie made Indiana a playoff contender throughout the 90s so your first statement is not correct but it is your opinion.
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              • kobestopper50
                Rookie
                • Apr 2007
                • 288

                #52
                Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

                Legend might be overblowing a bit for Killer Miller but he's still one of the most clutch players in NBA history.
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                • TripleCrown9
                  Keep the Faith
                  • May 2010
                  • 23669

                  #53
                  Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

                  Originally posted by st0rmb11
                  SMH. guys, the Pacers beat the Knicks 1 out of 3 times in the playoffs. Hardly "killing" them.
                  Um...what? The Pacers won 3 series and the Knicks won 3, out of their 6 post-season meetings in the 90s, so you must have meant Eastern Conference Finals.



                  You can say what you want about Wikipedia, but it's never false when it comes to sports results. So yeah, half the time, Miller "killed" the Knicks.
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                  • jd@os
                    Roster Editor
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 3712

                    #54
                    Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

                    Originally posted by Colts18
                    When you corrected him, what did he say.

                    What do you teach?
                    I think I just said, "Number one, it's 'There goes' and not 'There go'. And number two, that's not Dr. J." I forgot which player he thought was Dr. J but I want to say it was maybe Pippen or Malone (it was five years ago).

                    I guess I'm a little hard on the kids who have no clue about real legends because I am a history teacher. To me, history stretches across all boards from boring school history to sports history, music history, etc. Some of these young guys don't know there was actually a world with things going on before they graced us with their birth as God's gift to the world; I guess that's why one of my students told me movies were invented in the 1970s.

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                    • st0rmb11
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5167

                      #55
                      Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

                      Originally posted by SwampStomper90
                      Um...what? The Pacers won 3 series and the Knicks won 3, out of their 6 post-season meetings in the 90s, so you must have meant Eastern Conference Finals.



                      You can say what you want about Wikipedia, but it's never false when it comes to sports results. So yeah, half the time, Miller "killed" the Knicks.
                      1993 - Knicks
                      1994 - Knicks
                      1995 - Pacers

                      (and those were just the years I was referring to; the years that made him "famous")
                      but to continue.

                      1998 - Pacers
                      1999 - Knicks

                      I guess you're counting 2000 as the 90s, in which case, yeah, Indy won, but Miller averaged 21 points on 43% shooting. Hardly killing. if anything killed the Knicks, it was Ewing getting hurt and missing most of game 2, and all of games 3 and 4.

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                      • clipperfan811
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 876

                        #56
                        Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

                        This whole thing is sort of like music, you have your kids these days that can't appreciate older styles of music and you have older people who don't even consider what we hear today music at all.

                        And this sort of thing happens with every generation and once the next generation comes along the cycle repeats. It's just as close minded and ignorant to dismiss the current greats as it is to dismiss the past's.

                        In the end it's the job of older guys to educate the younger guys on what's already come and gone and allowed for the current to be what it is. And it's the job of the younger guys to keep the older guys from locking ourselves up in a room with old tapes and becoming obsolete and ignorant to the newest advancements on a game we all love.

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                        • J_Posse
                          Greatness Personified
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 11255

                          #57
                          Originally posted by The Bad Man
                          many players been overrated most not just reggie



                          yeah. seriously lol



                          nah. he's an ordinary player but with a 3 point killer instinct. he was in a video game back then by ea sports. i dont remember him being in a 2k game. i wish he will be in 2k13 because i know 2k can take care of his ratings and shut the overrated crap bs going on.
                          Pretty sure Miller was in a video game from 1991-2004, which includes NBA 2K-2K5.

                          He was a great 4th quarter player, but was far from a legend or all-time great. He just happened to play big against two of the biggest markets (Chicago & New York) and made forced the 1990's Bulls to their only game 7.

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                          • jd@os
                            Roster Editor
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 3712

                            #58
                            Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

                            Originally posted by J_Posse512
                            Pretty sure Miller was in a video game from 1991-2004, which includes NBA 2K-2K5.

                            He was a great 4th quarter player, but was far from a legend or all-time great. He just happened to play big against two of the biggest markets (Chicago & New York) and made forced the 1990's Bulls to their only game 7.
                            Don't forget about the 1992 NY Knicks.

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                            • TripleCrown9
                              Keep the Faith
                              • May 2010
                              • 23669

                              #59
                              Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

                              Originally posted by st0rmb11
                              1993 - Knicks
                              1994 - Knicks
                              1995 - Pacers

                              (and those were just the years I was referring to; the years that made him "famous")
                              but to continue.

                              1998 - Pacers
                              1999 - Knicks

                              I guess you're counting 2000 as the 90s, in which case, yeah, Indy won, but Miller averaged 21 points on 43% shooting. Hardly killing. if anything killed the Knicks, it was Ewing getting hurt and missing most of game 2, and all of games 3 and 4.
                              Well I just figured if you're going to mention how many times the Pacers beat the Knicks in the playoffs with Reggie Miller playing, you need to list all the series'. I won't even get technical with Indiana winning more head-to-head playoff games than the Knicks did (18-17, like the page says), because all that matters if if you advance. And I included 2000 because that season started in the 90s, the Pacers had Reggie Miller, and they met the Knicks in the playoffs, therefore it met the criteria for the most part lol.
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                              • kobestopper50
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 288

                                #60
                                Re: Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

                                Originally posted by clipperfan811
                                This whole thing is sort of like music, you have your kids these days that can't appreciate older styles of music and you have older people who don't even consider what we hear today music at all.

                                And this sort of thing happens with every generation and once the next generation comes along the cycle repeats. It's just as close minded and ignorant to dismiss the current greats as it is to dismiss the past's.

                                In the end it's the job of older guys to educate the younger guys on what's already come and gone and allowed for the current to be what it is. And it's the job of the younger guys to keep the older guys from locking ourselves up in a room with old tapes and becoming obsolete and ignorant to the newest advancements on a game we all love.
                                well said
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