Today's fan has no clue of the real legends

[Da Baller]

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Reggie has seemingly become the single most overrated player in basketball history.

I dont think its that he was overrated, he was just popular.

[AlexBrady]

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Reggie Miller was a good player, but he wasn't a legend. He had effective range out to 30 feet and he expertly used baseline and weak side screens. But his defense was abysmal and his clutch rep was slightly overrated. How many crucial shots did he miss in the Finals against the Lakers?

In the all time shooting guard hierarchy he can't match the all around games of Jordan, Bryant, Sharman, Wade, Sam Jones, Greer, Dumars, or Moncrief. He didn't have the creativity of Drexler, Monroe, or Richmond.
I also favor Walter Davis, Ray Allen, and Lou Hudson. That makes Miller 15th.

[DownunderCanuck]

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Reggie isn't even the best player in his own family haha, poor guy

[VDusen04]

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This whole thing is sort of like music, you have your kids these days that can't appreciate older styles of music and you have older people who don't even consider what we hear today music at all.

And this sort of thing happens with every generation and once the next generation comes along the cycle repeats. It's just as close minded and ignorant to dismiss the current greats as it is to dismiss the past's.

In the end it's the job of older guys to educate the younger guys on what's already come and gone and allowed for the current to be what it is. And it's the job of the younger guys to keep the older guys from locking ourselves up in a room with old tapes and becoming obsolete and ignorant to the newest advancements on a game we all love.

That's the long and short of it. At 27, I'm now actually old enough to have witnessed the transition from one era to the next and you're pretty much right on the money. When 90's basketball came through, all the "old" folks were claiming how poor the level of play was, how all the stars were prima donnas, how it was too rough (and then not rough enough), etc. So it's interesting to me to see how that era is looked upon now. It is my belief the '00's will be the same way.

I've learned to appreciate what I'm experiencing. Sometimes what we experience just feels normal. We grow accustomed to the way things are. In the 90's, I was actually tired of seeing Jordan and the Bulls on TNT and NBC all the time. And watching Hakeem Olajuwon play didn't really make my heart flutter. And that's not to say they weren't great, it's just sometimes I think we take things for granted, only to look back later and think about how neat things were. It'll be the same situation with Kobe Bryant, LeBron James and company. I'm not saying they're Jordan's equals, I'm just saying those guys (and others) are great and we should make sure to appreciate that.

[jmood88]

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This whole thing is sort of like music, you have your kids these days that can't appreciate older styles of music and you have older people who don't even consider what we hear today music at all.

And this sort of thing happens with every generation and once the next generation comes along the cycle repeats. It's just as close minded and ignorant to dismiss the current greats as it is to dismiss the past's.

In the end it's the job of older guys to educate the younger guys on what's already come and gone and allowed for the current to be what it is. And it's the job of the younger guys to keep the older guys from locking ourselves up in a room with old tapes and becoming obsolete and ignorant to the newest advancements on a game we all love.

This is the best post I've ever read in this section of OS.

[23]

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This whole thing is sort of like music, you have your kids these days that can't appreciate older styles of music and you have older people who don't even consider what we hear today music at all.

And this sort of thing happens with every generation and once the next generation comes along the cycle repeats. It's just as close minded and ignorant to dismiss the current greats as it is to dismiss the past's.

In the end it's the job of older guys to educate the younger guys on what's already come and gone and allowed for the current to be what it is. And it's the job of the younger guys to keep the older guys from locking ourselves up in a room with old tapes and becoming obsolete and ignorant to the newest advancements on a game we all love.

Ill only disagree here

Be it known I cannot stand rap music but just for reference

When I was coming up and listening to guys like Tribe Called Quest and some others, those guys always referenced older music in their songs makings

They had older song tracks playing to some of their popular songs, even had some of the older artist involved once in awhile

Do you see that now? They didnt dismiss the accomplishments of what was done before them and frankly you make a huge mistake by doing that

Lots of things have changed, but the continual shoving down the throat stuff is what gets on my nerves, because what alot of the younger generation doesnt have is respect (look at mayweather)

At least respect the dude you're pumping up now to finish his career before trying to make him a top 10 all time great in year 3, or calling him a bust if he isnt.

It gets old

[DukeC]

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Reggie isn't even the best player in his own family haha, poor guy

IMO Cheryl Miller is arguably the greatest woman's basketball player of all time.

Not a lot of people (Men or Women) can say they had/have the type of talent Cherly had.

[bamalam]

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reggie's best move was the "kick his leg out into the defender on a jumpshot " for the defensive foul. refs called it quite often

[thefranchise03]

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They need to know players like George Mikan, Bob Cousy, Bob Pettit, Neil Johnston, Cliff Hagan, etc. Those are the real legends that paved the way.

[bostonchipster]

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Agree, I'm 19, so I had no chance to watch players like MJ,Ewing, or Reggie in their primes. Luckily, I'm growing up in the youtube generation, which means I can watch all of their games, and I do this with a passion, especially if this lockout last a while. And for music, I love Zeppelin and The Beatles, cant stand the crap on the radio today.

[st0rmb11]

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They need to know players like George Mikan, Bob Cousy, Bob Pettit, Neil Johnston, Cliff Hagan, etc. Those are the real legends that paved the way.

I would argue that George Mikan didn't pave the way for anyone that followed him. Had Wilt or Shaq or Kareem been able to take 30 seconds to set up in the post and then back down and try to get a good look for 20 more, they would have averaged 40 points a game for their careers.

I respect what Mikan did. He was the best player of the pre shot clock era. That's nothing to look down on. The shot clock was implemented in 1954-1955. There's a reason Mikan only played 1 year with it, and was out of the league by age 31, after averaging 10 points on 39% shooting in his final season

[GRUNT007]

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I would argue that George Mikan didn't pave the way for anyone that followed him. Had Wilt or Shaq or Kareem been able to take 30 seconds to set up in the post and then back down and try to get a good look for 20 more, they would have averaged 40 points a game for their careers.

I respect what Mikan did. He was the best player of the pre shot clock era. That's nothing to look down on. The shot clock was implemented in 1954-1955. There's a reason Mikan only played 1 year with it, and was out of the league by age 31, after averaging 10 points on 39% shooting in his final season

The reason Mikan retired was because of the amount of abuse he took over his career. A nice article below.

http://the-surfs-up.com/sports/georgemikan.html

[jzero]

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I read a gamer said Reggie Miller was overhyped and only knew Barkley from tnt fame. No sense of history what so ever......

aren't you a today fan?