What Defines A Great Leader To YOU And How Important Is It?

[OSUFan_88]

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Interesting you say this because now I ask...can you get away with being a Part Time Leader but still be considered a GREAT leader or is it something where you have lead at ALL times/situations?

I guess that depends.

For me, there haven't been many great leaders, but several part time leaders. I would say being a part time leader means you cannot be a great leader.

[st0rmb11]

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There are many facets to what I believe is a great leader:

1) You must be on the court at all times. I think this applies to the theory that showing up is half the battle. You simply cannot be a leader and not be on the court leading your team.

I think it's very important for a "leader's" teammates to know that their leader will always be out there; sick, injured, whatever. They want to know that "the guy" is going to be in the fox hole with them all the time, and in return they'll return the favor

[TheMatrix31]

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Steve Nash is the definition of leader, to me.

Loyal to team and teammates, makes them better, teammates have complete trust in him, is fiery when he needs to be, always leaves it out there (even on D, despite his defensive performance not being so great). He's also a straight shooter to the media or otherwise. Don't really see him throw players under the bus, takes blame whenever things aren't going well, etc.

As a leader, I'm not sure there's anyone else I'd rather have to be honest. Him or Dirk. And that's without my Suns bias. I guess it's not surprising that they're best friends. It shows in how they are.

[SidVish]

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A great leader is one who leads in the exact opposite manner as Billy Hunter does.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I think you ahve to name names in a thread like this, for context.

[The15thunter]

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to me, a great leader has to be one of the best players on the team. guys like fisher, battier and others can have strong leadership traits, but they will not be the leaders of the team because it's inherently difficult for a human being to follow someone who isn't good at the actual task that they're doing.

strong leaders: tim duncan, steve nash, dirk nowitzki, kevin garnett.
talented players with some leadership abilities: dwyane wade, kobe bryant, paul pierce.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Just to throw it out there, what criteria did you use to name those guys as strong leaders?

What makes Dirk a strong leader

[The15thunter]

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Just to throw it out there, what criteria did you use to name those guys as strong leaders?

What makes Dirk a strong leader

it depends with each guy, because some people's leadership style is more vocal. but i feel as though dirk is a good leader because he's been there for a long time, so he's an entrenched part of the community and history of the organization. he has clout, because he's the face of the franchise. he's always accountable for his own actions as well as the success of the team, people look to him for assertiveness and a team identity. he does not cause negative reactions or outcomes amongst his team, and he has everyone's respect and admiration.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I feel you on that criteria. That's what I would say about Nash as well. Also they both seem like guys who like to get everyone involved off the court.

[The15thunter]

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I feel you on that criteria. That's what I would say about Nash as well. Also they both seem like guys who like to get everyone involved off the court.

yeah, i think that description applies to duncan, as well.

garnett is totally different, because he grew into being extremely vocal with his leadership, but he effectively changes the culture of the team everywhere he goes (minnesota, olympics, boston). he's a great leader.

there are guys who i think have some traits, or were great players, but i wouldn't call leaders despite being the best player on their teams. guys like: karl malone, charles barkley, shaquille o'neal, david robinson, and so on.

[OSUFan_88]

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Just to throw it out there, what criteria did you use to name those guys as strong leaders?

What makes Dirk a strong leader

Dirk is on the court all the time, demands a lot out of his teammates and he never makes an excuse for bad play.

I would say Dirk is a strong, good leader. He is not a great leader, though, but that is merely semantics.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I feel like "being a great leader" is overrated.

You don't have to be "a great leader" to be considered one of the best or to even lead a team to a championship.

Those with "great leadership" may not even be the first, second or third best players on their teams.

You can probably count the "superstar" players with "great leadership" on one or two hands.

A "superstar" player can have "average leadership" and still lead his team to a title. Basketball requires much more than one guy leading a team... which may be an entirely different discussion.

But one man being the leader of the squad? Seems pretty idealistic and unrealistic. You're simply not going to find many of those, and even fewer whom are the best players on the team.

[OSUFan_88]

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You don't have to be "a great leader" to be considered one of the best or to even lead a team to a championship.

I totally agree. I don't think anyone would argue otherwise.

[DukeC]

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I feel like "being a great leader" is overrated.

You don't have to be "a great leader" to be considered one of the best or to even lead a team to a championship.

Those with "great leadership" may not even be the first, second or third best players on their teams.

You can probably count the "superstar" players with "great leadership" on one or two hands.

A "superstar" player can have "average leadership" and still lead his team to a title. Basketball requires much more than one guy leading a team... which may be an entirely different discussion.

But one man being the leader of the squad? Seems pretty idealistic and unrealistic. You're simply not going to find many of those, and even fewer whom are the best players on the team.

This. A million times this. You can have a superstar...but you also need that "Coach on the Floor" (usually the PG) and you need that leader on defense to be truly succesful.

This past Dallas team was a perfect example. Jason Kidd (Coach on the floor) Tyson Chandler (Leader on Defense) and Dirk Nowitski (Superstar, Guy you can relay on in crunch time).

Dallas does not win the championship without Tyson or Shawn Marion.

[da ThRONe]

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The leader is the guy the team looks to for encouragement whether it's vocal or by example. He's the guy that fills his role better than any other player on the team.

My prefect example of a leader is Chris Paul. I don't think there's a player who would battle as hard on the court for a W. At the same time the guy would open his house up to his competitors.