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  • Playmakers
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    • Sep 2004
    • 15397

    #1

    at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

    I was reading Hollinger's breakdown on Dirk and even though i knew his perfomance in last years playoff was basically what he's always done in the post season i was still shocked at his effeciency rating.

    I personally don't think he's better skill wise....i think his basketball IQ is what makes him a better player at 33 than he was at 28

    He might very well have 1-2 Elite seasons left in his game


    Hollinger on Dirk

    DIRK NOWITZKI, PF
    Projection: 24.6 pts, 7.8 reb, 2.8 ast per 40 min; 21.09 PER | Player card

    • Nimble 7-footer with devastating midrange jumper and unblockable fadeaway.
    • Moves well on defense but lacks strength. Not a leaper.
    • Great going left and quickly pulling up for shot. Rarely turns ball over.


    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Nowitzki's 2010-11 postseason actually wasn't out of line with what he's done in several other playoff seasons; it just had a much happier ending. He's been doing this for years -- his career playoff PER is higher than his regular-season mark, a boast very few players can make. However, because he finally won a title after countless years of falling short, everybody was looking for "the difference" … but Nowitzki didn't really do anything different.

    Nowitzki remains among the game's most devastating offensive weapons thanks to the relatively simple concept that he generates a lot of points from relatively few possessions. It's not just that he averaged 26.9 points per 40 minutes, a fearsome stat in itself, but that he did it with such staggering efficiency. Nowitzki again had among the lowest turnover rates at his position, and his true shooting percentage of 61.7 is mind-boggling for a midrange shooter. He basically turns the game's normal percentages on their head.

    I can't stress this enough: You're not supposed to shoot this many long 2s and still have good percentages. For every other player in every other league in the entire world, the long 2-pointer is the worst shot in basketball. But it's not if you're Dirk Nowitzki. He was the second best in the league at shooting from 10-23 feet last season, but the even more amazing part is in the "attempts" column -- he took nearly 10 a game. Well more than half his shots were long 2s.

    Unlike the rest of the planet, Nowitzki is so uncannily accurate that he can dominate games this way. Defenders routinely foul him trying to pressure his shot or by leaving their feet due to the threat of the shot. Opponents send double-teams to prevent it, creating openings for others. And as a result, he was arguably the most valuable offensive player in basketball last season. Certainly he is for Dallas' system -- the Mavs scored 10.27 points fewer per 100 possessions when he left the court last season, a staggering figure that's been pretty steady over the past half-decade.
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  • Flightwhite24
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2005
    • 12094

    #2
    Man Playmaker I should have known you started this thread. Lol

    I would venture to say he is getting smarter/wiser. Not making a comparison but MJ got smarter as he got older. Looks to be the case with Dirk




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    • Jasong7777
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      • May 2005
      • 6415

      #3
      Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

      I would guess smarter.
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      • AlexBrady
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        • Jul 2008
        • 3341

        #4
        Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

        Two different incarnations of Nowitzki. In his younger days, he was a runner and a leaper. These days, he has slowed down and relies on tricky fakes to create space for his deadly jumpers. Back then, he would usually create shots off his own dribble. Now, he'll set and use screens, and execute the called plays. But most importantly, Nowitzki is now a reliable shot-maker in the clutch, and thats a big reason why the Mavericks were Champs.

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        • Vince
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          • Aug 2002
          • 26017

          #5
          Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

          Originally posted by AlexBrady
          Two different incarnations of Nowitzki. In his younger days, he was a runner and a leaper. These days, he has slowed down and relies on tricky fakes to create space for his deadly jumpers. Back then, he would usually create shots off his own dribble. Now, he'll set and use screens, and execute the called plays. But most importantly, Nowitzki is now a reliable shot-maker in the clutch, and thats a big reason why the Mavericks were Champs.
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          • mvspree8
            Pro
            • Mar 2007
            • 580

            #6
            Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

            I don't understand the difference between "smarter" and "better". I don't think players improve unless they're playing smarter.

            I'm absolutely thrilled that people have given up on that stupid "Dirk isn't clutch" argument, considering nearly every statistical measurement of his play in playoff games and clutch situations suggests that he gets better as the game and season progresses.

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            • rosque
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              • Aug 2011
              • 502

              #7
              Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

              Originally posted by mvspree8
              I don't understand the difference between "smarter" and "better". I don't think players improve unless they're playing smarter.
              MJ imrpoved his 3pt after couple of seasons, Rondo is improving his jumpsoht.. That is not playing smarter, taht is getting better. MJ after his trip in baseball played SMARTER because he couldn' posterize players all the time, but he did that also. He developed deadly post game.

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              • thugnificant
                Banned
                • Sep 2010
                • 520

                #8
                Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

                its not like dirks style of play puts any real strain on his body, he mostly just shoot jumpers every game. he can play like that until he is 40 years old

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                • ggsimmonds
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11235

                  #9
                  Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

                  Nothing at all has changed with Dirk.
                  The change was from the players around him. Talent wise they are not better than some of the teams they beat in the playoffs, but the team compliments each other very well.

                  Instead of asking what changed about Dirk, ask what changed about the Mavericks.

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                  • mrclutch
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2369

                    #10
                    Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

                    Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                    Nothing at all has changed with Dirk.
                    The change was from the players around him. Talent wise they are not better than some of the teams they beat in the playoffs, but the team compliments each other very well.

                    Instead of asking what changed about Dirk, ask what changed about the Mavericks.
                    I kind of agree with this. The role players were lights out in the finals.

                    The only real improvement I've seen in the last couple years is his passing. He's went from the worst passing superstar ever to just below average. He still is a makes some bad ones but not nealry as horrible as the first 7-8 years in the league.
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                    • ScoobySnax
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                      • Mar 2009
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                      #11
                      Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

                      Yep, the role players helped bring home the trophy for Dallas. Terry, Barea, Stevenson (who surprising shot the ball really well) and Chandler on the defensive end. Dirk was just being Dirk out there. He finally got the help he needed to get over the hump.
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                      • youvalss
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                        • Feb 2007
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                        Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

                        I think that in 2011 Dirk has gained what he never had before: The mentality of winning titles. I think that once you play in the Finals and win, it adds something to your mental game. He may not win another one (who knows?) but the next time he gets to the Finals, he will have something he didn't have before.
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                        • CMH
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #13
                          Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

                          Advanced Basketball Metrics FTW.

                          But, outside of that, Dirk is an amazing player. He is smarter and that helps. I haven't seen him enough to really know what he's doing with cuts, screens, etc. I do know that he tends to take shots he knows he can hit. That's a noticeable difference to me. He takes difficult shots, but they are the same shots every single time. No messing around. He knows what works and does it.
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                          • KG
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                            • Sep 2005
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                            #14
                            Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

                            By getting smarter he's getting better. He's honed and perfected his go-to moves. Press up on him and he has the handle to put in the floor in both directions and either drive to the cup or take one dribble and pull-up. Play off him and he's knocking down that jumper. I think he's adjusted his game to play with contact like never before. It was great to see him get over the hurdle and prove all the naysayers wrong last year.
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                            • Playmakers
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 15397

                              #15
                              Re: at 33 years old is Dirk getting better or just smarter

                              I found this comment from Dirk about his age and his ability to continue to produce as he gets older very interesting.....

                              Dirk Nowitzki has plenty of prime left

                              DALLAS -- Most NBA players slow down in their mid-30s. Good thing Dirk Nowitzki has never been very fast.

                              “My game is based on zero athleticism,” the 33-year-old Mavs superstar said with a grin.

                              That makes it likely that Nowitzki’s prime will extend far past the norm. There certainly isn’t any indication that a Dirk drop-off should be expected during the three remaining seasons on his contract.

                              As coach Rick Carlisle pointed out, Nowitzki had arguably his best season as a 13-year veteran a year ago. Nowitzki shot a career-best .517 from the floor during the regular season and averaged 27.7 points in the playoffs during the Mavs’ title run.

                              How much prime does Dirk have left? Plenty.

                              “He takes great care of himself, he has a great motor for the game because he loves it so much and he loves to win so much,” Carlisle said. “And so, that has yet to be determined.Those kind of questions and those kind of situations, I’m almost hesitant to put a number on it because, look at Jason Kidd. The guy is going to be 39 next year and he’s talking about playing three more years, including this year. Reggie Miller was the same thing.
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