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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #5176
    Re: NBA Off Topic

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    I'm not really saying the same thing you are though. It won't be fake. The feelings that each team has for one another will not be fake. Ray and Rondo obviously have personal issues, Miami and Boston have already recently not been fond of each other, and both are primed to represent their conference. There's nothing fake about that.

    Will the media dramatize the situation? Well duh. That's the time we live in.

    Im talking about the team, not the 2 players themselves

    I agree with you Pack that he should move on, but it wont end after the first game...when the playoffs come, expect alot more

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #5177
      Re: NBA Off Topic

      More Ref News:

      League officials will use replays for three additional calls this season. Officials will review plays in which defensive players may have taken charges but were in the restricted area under the basket.

      If by review an official finds the player was in the restricted zone, he can change the call to a blocking foul.

      They will also call for reviews of goaltending in the final two minutes of games, and all flagrant fouls will be reviewed to assess their classification. Flagrant fouls called during games can never be downgraded to personal fouls but can be downgraded from a Flagrant 2 to a Flagrant 1, for example.

      Also, officials will emphasize the “Reggie Miller rule” for a shooter who kicks his legs out during jump-shot attempts to create contact and draw fouls. Officials plan to call offensive fouls on shooters who blatantly kick out their legs to initiate contact.

      Officials will also be more aware of the “Respect the Game” rule, being more stringent on players who show an excessive amount of emotion arguing calls or attempt to delay the game while protesting.

      Finally, officials will lighten up on calling technical fouls for players who throw the ball against the stanchions.

      A few years ago, the league sought to crack down on players who threw the ball against the stanchions in frustration. Now, officials said, they will only call technicals on players who disrupt the game or toss balls that distract fans.

      There is already adverse reaction from the NBA’s announcement that teams have 90 seconds after the lineups are announced to step onto the court for the opening tip. The league wants to reduce pregame antics such as elongated handshakes and veritable “Soul Train” lines that currently occur before tipoff.
      http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/20...campaign=sm_tw
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • Kashanova
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2003
        • 12695

        #5178
        Re: NBA Off Topic

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        I wonder if they will call offensive fouls for throwing elbows during jump shots as well

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        • JODYE
          JB4MVP
          • May 2012
          • 4834

          #5179
          Re: NBA Off Topic

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          </td><td style="background-image: url('/vBulletin/images/quotes/00.gif');width:100%;height:1px;" width="100%"> League officials will use replays for three additional calls this season. Officials will review plays in which defensive players may have taken charges but were in the restricted area under the basket.
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          I don't like this one bit. I can just see this getting abused through the course of a game.
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          • Jukeman
            Showtime
            • Aug 2005
            • 10955

            #5180
            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            Yes. I hated the "Reggie Miller" back when he was doing that ****

            ..And came to hate when shooters lean into a defender to draw contact even more than flopping.



            -Juke

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            • bigeastbumrush
              My Momma's Son
              • Feb 2003
              • 19245

              #5181
              Re: NBA Off Topic

              The games are just gonna get longer.

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              • Fresh Tendrils
                Strike Hard and Fade Away
                • Jul 2002
                • 36131

                #5182
                Re: NBA Off Topic

                I guess they're following after the NFL. It makes sense I guess with more advertising time, but damn.



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                • C the Lyte
                  Left side, strong side
                  • May 2009
                  • 2253

                  #5183
                  Re: NBA Off Topic

                  They cut down on the handshaking pre-game to cut down on time and added options to be reviewed....


                  SMDH.
                  EXPERIENCE MAYHEM FOOTBALL

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                  • Fresh Tendrils
                    Strike Hard and Fade Away
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 36131

                    #5184
                    Re: NBA Off Topic

                    Maybe they can create review handshakes?



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                    • jmood88
                      Sean Payton: Retribution
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 34639

                      #5185
                      Re: NBA Off Topic

                      Originally posted by C the Lyte
                      They cut down on the handshaking pre-game to cut down on time and added options to be reviewed....


                      SMDH.
                      I think that the pre-game rule is dumb but the logic makes sense. They decrease the time spent on things that don't matter to the game and increase the time spent making sure the calls can be corrected if the refs get them wrong.
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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #5186
                        Re: NBA Off Topic

                        Would work as well if they'd stop calling so many touch fouls slowing the game down

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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #5187
                          Re: NBA Off Topic

                          Jeff Van Gundy speaks out on his brother not getting hired by ESPN:
                          8:42PM EDT October 21. 2012 - Networks pay millions, even billions, to show games from marquee leagues. But are they essentially just ad agencies at the beck and call of those leagues?

                          Sometimes it seems like it.

                          Jeff Van Gundy
                          , ESPN/ABC's lead NBA game analyst, suggests his brother Stan's failure to land a studio analyst role at ESPN raises big questions about whether ESPN's NBA coverage can be reasonably independent.

                          Jeff, who hadn't previously spoken publicly on the issue until an interview with USA TODAY Sports, says his brother "had a basic agreement" to become an ESPN/ABC analyst in the marquee studio shows that wrap around game coverage: "And then something changed. There's certainly circumstantial evidence that something from the outside -- presumably the NBA -- changed (ESPN's) thinking. ... I was happy when they came to an agreement and shocked when they pulled their offer."

                          Obviously it's personal for Jeff, who used to be so nervous during some games when Stan coached the Orlando Magic that he wouldn't watch them on TV. And after ESPN asked Jeff to help recruit Stan, "Obviously this stings. Frankly, it's a shame what happened."

                          Going forward? "As a broadcaster of the NBA, it give you pause," Jeff says. "How forthcoming can you be? You don't want your honesty to cost you a chance at employment.This is a shot across the bow."

                          Jeff's big picture: "This is an organization that's treated me great. But this raises interesting questions about what a (league-network) partnership means. You have to realize, as a fan, you're not getting the whole truth. ... It seems like there are certain people in each sport that (TV) can't criticize, or you can't criticize the league itself. That's what impressed me when (ESPN's) Mike Tirico and Jon Gruden criticized the NFL over replacement refs. That (Commissioner) Roger Goodell didn't throw a hissy fit at ESPN was impressive."

                          Stan, fired by the Magic in May, has been quite vocal that the NBA kept him from getting an ESPN job, telling SheridanHoops.com that Commissioner David Stern "likes to control everybody and I said things he didn't like." (For example: Stan two years ago compared Stern to Libya's Moammar Gadhafi, saying Stern doesn't "tolerate other people's opinion or free speech or anything.")
                          Sunday, ESPN's Mike Soltys said, "We had discussions with (Stan) and we were interested in a role for him at ESPN. Ultimately, we moved in a different direction."

                          Stan, previously on Dan LeBatard's radio show, has responded to that ESPN line of thinking that the sides just couldn't agree on specific role: "That's a bunch of BS from ESPN. We actually did agree on a role, but they came back and pulled it."

                          NBA spokesman Mike Bass on Sunday said, "It was ESPN and ESPN alone who made any decisions about Stan Van Gundy."

                          Jeff says Stan is pursuing other on-air jobs -- "Maybe some college basketball or working for a team on a part-time basis" -- and would have been "outstanding at ESPN because he works hard, is smart and would have said what he thought the truth is."

                          Jeff, who teams with Mike Breen on the NBA Finals, is ESPN's top NBA opinionizer. He says, "You have to be careful as a news organization that you don't fall into voluntary censorship, that you worry about offending your 'league partner.' I never worried about that. I worry about fans listening."
                          Jeff wants to be clear he likes ESPN -- "It's supportive, kind, fun and generous, frankly" -- and the network doesn't pass along any pressure it gets from the league, except when producers sometimes suggest "you were wrong to go here, that you could have made the same point by saying it this way."

                          But, he says, "While this is an organization that's treated me great, it raises questions about what these so-called partnerships mean. You have to realize as a fan, you're not getting the whole truth."

                          When Jeff first interviewed with ESPN and TNT, where he was an analyst, he says, "The first thing they asked was whether you're willing to be critical. You have to think long and hard. You might not want to go where they want you to go.
                          http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...nutes/1647505/
                          #RespectTheCulture

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                          • bigeastbumrush
                            My Momma's Son
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 19245

                            #5188
                            Re: NBA Off Topic

                            Originally posted by jmood88
                            I think that the pre-game rule is dumb but the logic makes sense. They decrease the time spent on things that don't matter to the game and increase the time spent making sure the calls can be corrected if the refs get them wrong.
                            The reviews in the NBA take way too long. Most of the time if it's a bad call..it will even itself out as the game goes on. It's really unnecessary.

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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #5189
                              I have a feeling the block/ charge review will do more bad than good...smh

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                              • JODYE
                                JB4MVP
                                • May 2012
                                • 4834

                                #5190
                                Re: NBA Off Topic

                                It absolutely is.

                                I would have rather them taken it out of the game completely rather than do this. It's a judgement call. Every call on the floor is.

                                That's like allowing reviews on penalties in football. Makes no sense.
                                Cubs | Bulls | Dolphins | 'Noles
                                The artist formerly known as "13"
                                "Heroes get remembered, but legends never die..."


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