What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

[TMagic]

Bynum leading the league in PER. Three games, of course. Still don't think he's being fully utilized either.

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I believe he also leads in +/- per minute and per game.

Its by no means the best metric. Just tossing it out there is all.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Color me surprised by Andrew's consistency early on.

Just to throw it out there, do you Andrew supporters think he'd be looking similarly beastly if he changed places with Dwight? I'm not making any trouble here, just wondering. The defense would be solely focused on Andrew as opposed to Kobe/Pau first in Los Angeles.

[PrettyT11]

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Bynum leading the league in PER. Three games, of course. Still don't think he's being fully utilized either.

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He is actually second to LeBron but he is off to a great start.

[Drewski]

He no doubt benefits from having Pau and Kobe to keep defenses honest.

It remains to be seen how Dwight would be affected by having that Lakers team around him.

Drew would have a hard time being constantly doubled or game planned for. Houston sent an extra man a couple times, and I know I watched Drew turn it over because of the extra presence.

I think we'll have to see the season play out for both guys before we can really tell where they both are offensively. Dwight has a bigger impact on the defensive side, but I think it's arguable that Drew is a more complete offensive player.

And as you said, defenses key in on Dwight.

Overall I think we know what Dwight is at this point. Bynum still has proving to do, and I believe he will only improve offensively as he gets into game shape, and is given more time with the ball in his hands. Once he's more comfortable and isn't gassing earlier than he should, I'm very excited to see what he can do.

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[1Rose]

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I agree. Bynum has talent no question, but I still want to see if he can do it as a number 1 option. He's still the 3rd option on his team.

And were only 7 games into the season, but has impressed me so far.

That said, I'll still take Dwight.

[wwharton]

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Color me surprised by Andrew's consistency early on.

Just to throw it out there, do you Andrew supporters think he'd be looking similarly beastly if he changed places with Dwight? I'm not making any trouble here, just wondering. The defense would be solely focused on Andrew as opposed to Kobe/Pau first in Los Angeles.

Personally I do, but I think he'd end up getting hurt quicker. All I've ever needed (for the last 2 years anyway) is to see him stay healthy. He's got a ton of potential. His game is different than Dwight's but I think we put D12's potential higher bc we believe he can develop the type of "skills" that Bynum has... and I'm starting to wonder if that's true. So if we assume they both will just get better at what they're already good at, I'd say they're about equal, just in different ways.

Honestly, looking at it like that I think Bynum is better built to be a main option than Dwight. I think Dwight would be a deadly 2nd option to any wing player.

[KG]

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TMagic, I have nothing against Andrew whatsoever. It more seems like you're making him out to something he simply isn't. A better rebounder than Dwight Howard? I don't care what sort of stats you show me, that's not anywhere remotely true.

Am I the only one who would take Noah, Horford and Marc Gasol before Andrew Bynum?

I think I've seen more than my fair share of Andrew Bynum's skillset over the years. He really isn't that great, I'd rather take Noah/Horford/Gasol's defense/agility/motor/consistency/scoring abilities over Andrew.

Is it really that much of a stretch to take those three guys before Andrew? Ask GM's, I think I know what the answer is but it's all good.

Yes. Noah is a garbage player. I love his hustle but he's not a threat offensively. Horford is maxed out as a player. He's stepped us his game in terms of hitting the mid-range but he's not skilled enough to be elite. I like Gasol better than those 2 so I understand that given his durability compared to Bynum.

Color me surprised by Andrew's consistency early on.

Just to throw it out there, do you Andrew supporters think he'd be looking similarly beastly if he changed places with Dwight? I'm not making any trouble here, just wondering. The defense would be solely focused on Andrew as opposed to Kobe/Pau first in Los Angeles.

I think he would score at a higher clip than what Dwight is doing this year. I know it's only been 6 games but Dwight is absolutely struggling (aside from tonight where he crapped on my Zards but hey, he always does that) on the offensive end.

I think D12 is still a #2 option.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I think he's already checked out of Orlando and that's why he's not killing it like he should.

[KG]

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I think he's already checked out of Orlando and that's why he's not killing it like he should.

That's not a good thing.

Also, I like Bynum's mean streak. To me it shows passion and that losing the way they did upset him.

[Drewski]

Interesting thread this is becoming.

I also feel like Drews offense is superior to Dwights.

Dwight gets the lions share of touches, he's the guy, but Drew is more efficient and has great touch around the rim, IF Drew ever got the nod Dwight has in Orlando I believe he would at worst score as much as Dwight.

Wwharton spot on saying he'd also likely get hurt sooner, but injuries are injuries for all we know Bynum could never go down the way he has again (esp considering how Kobe crashed into him).

If Otis Smith called Jim Buss right now and offered a straight swap, I have no idea if they'd pull the trigger.

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[PrettyT11]

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Come on now I know Bynum has started great but let's be real here. If the magic called and said they would take a straight player for player swap the Lakers would be damn fools to turn that down. There is no way possible they would turn that deal down.

[Drewski]

Jim Buss has a man crush on Drew, and he's playing better than he ever has. Keep in mind he wouldn't budge on Drew for Melo last year on the Lakers side, whether or not the Nuggets would have considered a Bynum package.

This isn't the same Lakers FO with Jim in the drivers seat.

So far Drew is rebounding at a higher percentage (rebounding next to Pau) , and his true shooting percentage is 10% higher than Dwights.

I think they'd eventually fall into Dwight, but not before giving Jim Buss nightmares and having to pry his 'stamp' on the Lakers franchise in Bynum.

Comes down to health most likely. Lakers more fruitful endeavor is finding a suitable PG still more so then coralling D12

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[wwharton]

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Come on now I know Bynum has started great but let's be real here. If the magic called and said they would take a straight player for player swap the Lakers would be damn fools to turn that down. There is no way possible they would turn that deal down.

Agreed 100%, but it's almost a different discussion. Like I said, I think Dwight is the ultimate #2 for any wing player. Put him out there with Kobe (and Gasol) and his focus is on manning the defense, controlling the boards on defense, and getting most of his looks on oops, put backs and when he gets position to just turn and dunk. I think that's the perfect situation for him. His athleticism is so ridiculous that he's still a beast as the focal point on offense but I think Bynum would be much better in that role, while Dwight would be much better in Bynum's current role on the Lakers.

Still, Dwight's previous success and durability trumps Bynum enough to make his value higher (maybe even much higher) right now.

[Dice]

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Am I the only one who would take Noah, Horford and Marc Gasol before Andrew Bynum?

I've seen my fair share of Noah and I'd take Andrew Bynum over him in a heart beat. Love what Noah does for the Bulls BUT he is no where near the scorer Bynum is now.

If the Lakers were to trade Bynum for Noah, me and a couple of sensible Bulls fans would gladly drive Noah to the airport and pick up Bynum and drop his off at the United Center.

You swap Noah with Bynum on this current Bulls team and not only do I feel they can beat the Heat BUT take the whole score by winning the championship.

[King_B_Mack]

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I've seen my fair share of Noah and I'd take Andrew Bynum over him in a heart beat. Love what Noah does for the Bulls BUT he is no where near the scorer Bynum is now.

If the Lakers were to trade Bynum for Noah, me and a couple of sensible Bulls fans would gladly drive Noah to the airport and pick up Bynum and drop his off at the United Center.

You swap Noah with Bynum on this current Bulls team and not only do I feel they can beat the Heat BUT take the whole score by winning the championship.

Come on with this Dice. Do we have to go through this again. Myself and a lot of other guys are not without sense. If you tell me that Bynum will be healthy and on the court from here on out (mind you I know missing a few games a season isn't a deal breaker) then you damn right I'd pack Noah's **** up for him. However Bynum as of this writing has still yet to play 66 games in his career. As of this writing Bynum has still yet to put these kind of performances together for any significant amount of time and certainly not in the playoffs. This ain't 2K man. There are more factors at work to making trades than 'guy with this rating is higher than guy with that rating.' As it is right now, no I would not trade Noah for Bynum and his near twenty million dollar salary.