What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

Jim Buss has a man crush on Drew, and he's playing better than he ever has. Keep in mind he wouldn't budge on Drew for Melo last year on the Lakers side, whether or not the Nuggets would have considered a Bynum package.

This isn't the same Lakers FO with Jim in the drivers seat.

So far Drew is rebounding at a higher percentage (rebounding next to Pau) , and his true shooting percentage is 10% higher than Dwights.

I think they'd eventually fall into Dwight, but not before giving Jim Buss nightmares and having to pry his 'stamp' on the Lakers franchise in Bynum.

Comes down to health most likely. Lakers more fruitful endeavor is finding a suitable PG still more so then coralling D12

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And that's where you get Deron as well.

You get Duhwight, you get Deron because it's safe to say that those two will be playing together next year. Where at is TBD but once ya'll get Duhwight, that solves everything else.

[iAM-IncReDiBLe-]

Seen Horford brought an if the Hawks ever got a legit center so they could move Horford to his real position of PF he would dominate.

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[jfsolo]

Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

It's funny because even though the thread asks for our opinion of a healthy Andrew Bynum, I think that all of us still can't help but approach the issue with his health as a the key point of contention.

If Andrew is healthy then, Dwight is the only center who I would consider his equal or better. I really like Bogut, Horford, M. Gasol, but Andrew's ceiling is exponentially higher then all of those guys, IMO.

I agree with Dice, Noah is a solid, solid player, but you but Bynum in in place on the Bulls, and I truly, truly believe that they become a Dynasty level squad.

As far as the Laker go, if Kobe was 28, then Dwight is probably a better fit, because that Kobe could still score at will, thus the low post production(as well as touches) by another big, wouldn't be as essential.

33 year old Kobe(despite what he probably still thinks in his own mind) needs the superior offensive versatility of Andrew to better complement his game.

I can see how others would feel differently of course, but if we're removing health concerns from the equation, then I think I would actually take Andrew over Dwight.

[wwharton]

Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

It's funny because even though the thread asks for our opinion of a healthy Andrew Bynum, I think that all of us still can't help but approach the issue with his health as a the key point of contention.

If Andrew is healthy then, Dwight is the only center who I would consider his equal or better. I really like Bogut, Horford, M. Gasol, but Andrew's ceiling is exponentially higher then all of those guys, IMO.

I agree with Dice, Noah is a solid, solid player, but you but Bynum in in place on the Bulls, and I truly, truly believe that they become a Dynasty level squad.

As far as the Laker go, if Kobe was 28, then Dwight is probably a better fit, because that Kobe could still score at will, thus the low post production(as well as touches) by another big, wouldn't be as essential.

33 year old Kobe(despite what he probably still thinks in his own mind) needs the superior offensive versatility of Andrew to better complement his game.

I can see how others would feel differently of course, but if we're removing health concerns from the equation, then I think I would actually take Andrew over Dwight.

I think Dwight would be fine with 33 year old Kobe and Gasol.

I'd also like to see a healthy Bogut give both of these guys a run for their money (that dude can't stay on the court either).

[Drewski]

And that's where you get Deron as well.

You get Duhwight, you get Deron because it's safe to say that those two will be playing together next year. Where at is TBD but once ya'll get Duhwight, that solves everything else.

Don't think they'd have the cap room or could even make it.

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[Dice]

Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

Come on with this Dice. Do we have to go through this again. Myself and a lot of other guys are not without sense. If you tell me that Bynum will be healthy and on the court from here on out (mind you I know missing a few games a season isn't a deal breaker) then you damn right I'd pack Noah's **** up for him. However Bynum as of this writing has still yet to play 66 games in his career. As of this writing Bynum has still yet to put these kind of performances together for any significant amount of time and certainly not in the playoffs. This ain't 2K man. There are more factors at work to making trades than 'guy with this rating is higher than guy with that rating.' As it is right now, no I would not trade Noah for Bynum and his near twenty million dollar salary.

To each it's own. Wasn't implying you(or anybody) in regards to Bulls fans not having sense. So I'm hoping you didn't take that as an insult. I know your a fan and just want the team to win that elusive championship. We just look at things differently on how the Bulls get to that next step of actually winning the championship.

And no disagreements of what you said. However, the topic is a 'Healthy' Andrew Bynum. Yes, in real time, you have to consider Bynums knees and how long they'll hold up if the Lakers were to put a Noah for Bynum deal on the table. I'd still take it in the end because if Bynum could just stay healthy towards the end of the season going into the playoffs I like the Bulls chances of a Rose/Bynum combo instead of a Rose/Noah combo.

And no disrespect to Noah because I know he's a fan favorite but what you gain from Bynum is much more rewarding that what you'll loose from trading Noah. You may loose a little defense from Bynum BUT not much to make a difference. You certainly gain a lot more scoring from Bynum. Is it a huge risk? Of course it is. But it's also a high reward if it works out.

[Drewski]

It's funny because even though the thread asks for our opinion of a healthy Andrew Bynum, I think that all of us still can't help but approach the issue with his health as a the key point of contention.

If Andrew is healthy then, Dwight is the only center who I would consider his equal or better. I really like Bogut, Horford, M. Gasol, but Andrew's ceiling is exponentially higher then all of those guys, IMO.

I agree with Dice, Noah is a solid, solid player, but you but Bynum in in place on the Bulls, and I truly, truly believe that they become a Dynasty level squad.

As far as the Laker go, if Kobe was 28, then Dwight is probably a better fit, because that Kobe could still score at will, thus the low post production(as well as touches) by another big, wouldn't be as essential.

33 year old Kobe(despite what he probably still thinks in his own mind) needs the superior offensive versatility of Andrew to better complement his game.

I can see how others would feel differently of course, but if we're removing health concerns from the equation, then I think I would actually take Andrew over Dwight.

I agree the Lakers need Drews offense at this point. As a Laker fan id prefer Drew taking more FGA's or at least as much as Kobe, and Kobe picking his spots and pushing when they need it.

Dwight shoots a lower percentage and would get probably equivalent touches, so....

Not ready to say they're better off with Drew than Dwight though.

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[RedSceptile]

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I agree the Lakers need Drews offense at this point. As a Laker fan id prefer Drew taking more FGA's or at least as much as Kobe, and Kobe picking his spots and pushing when they need it.

Dwight shoots a lower percentage and would get probably equivalent touches, so....

Not ready to say they're better off with Drew than Dwight though.

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I would think Dwight's field goal percentage has more to do with him usually being doubled or tripled...

[wwharton]

Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

I would think Dwight's field goal percentage has more to do with him usually being doubled or tripled...

D12's shooting 59% from the field. I just assumed he didn't mean FG% but was talking more about being able to hit "normal" shots since Dwight's pretty limited to close shots and dunks. But the double and triple teaming doesn't effect his % bc of the shots he takes... he either gets fouled or is shooting at the rim. Bynum has more range.

[Drewski]

D12's shooting 59% from the field. I just assumed he didn't mean FG% but was talking more about being able to hit "normal" shots since Dwight's pretty limited to close shots and dunks. But the double and triple teaming doesn't effect his % bc of the shots he takes... he either gets fouled or is shooting at the rim. Bynum has more range.

Indeed.

Bynum has better touch and moves to go with it.

We've been waiting to see that from Dwight. I know I have, at least. Dudes a monster regardless but can be even more dominant.

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[1Rose]

Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

If someone can guarantee me that Bynum's body isn't going to explode at some point ever again, I'll drive Noah to the airport myself lol

That said, Noah isn't a garbage player. That is going a little far. Dude has worked on his moves on the offensive end and can knock down an open jumpshot. Wouldn't call him a non factor. He does what is needed on our team. We don't need him to score.

[Boltman]

Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

If someone can guarantee me that Bynum's body isn't going to explode at some point ever again, I'll drive Noah to the airport myself lol

That said, Noah isn't a garbage player. That is going a little far. Dude has worked on his moves on the offensive end and can knock down an open jumpshot. Wouldn't call him a non factor. He does what is needed on our team. We don't need him to score.

I preface this by saying I like Noah a lot, I loved his hustle at Florida and still enjoy his hustle. But lets be honest here, you said "he does what is needed on our team, we don't need him to score".

Isn't he going to be doing the same thing for any team he plays on? No team is going to "need" him to score. He is never going to be a viable pure scoring option on any team period.

Calling him garbage is a bit overkill though. I always enjoy a hustle guy on a team, every team needs one.

Either way, anyone who says they wouldn't trade Noah straight up for Bynum needs a drug test.

I'd still rather have Dwight. As it stands right now Bynum is not only fine, he's excelling & healthy. I'd say a more important need is a PG if anything.

[1Rose]

Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

I guess I should have elaborated. He has the ability to score, but he excels at other aspects that teams value more, like defense and rebounding.

He is also a very underrated passer and runs the floor very well.

[wwharton]

Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

I guess I should have elaborated. He has the ability to score, but he excels at other aspects that teams value more, like defense and rebounding.

He is also a very underrated passer and runs the floor very well.

He does a lot of things well. I don't remember anyone saying he was garbage or a non factor... did you make that up?

He's not Bynum though... not even close, but I don't think there's an argument there with anyone either.

[1Rose]

Re: What Is Your Opinion On A Healthy Andrew Bynum?

Yes. Noah is a garbage player. I love his hustle but he's not a threat offensively. Horford is maxed out as a player. He's stepped us his game in terms of hitting the mid-range but he's not skilled enough to be elite. I like Gasol better than those 2 so I understand that given his durability compared to Bynum.

No wwharton, I definitely did not make that up.