Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

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    Sitting by the door
    • Jul 2002
    • 6627

    #1

    Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF



    The interview is like 5 minutes long but in it he thinks that the Pacers in 98 was better than the Bulls that same year.

    I somewhat disagree BUT I don't think he was off his rocker. That 98 Pacers team was probably the best Pacers team I've seen play. If anything, those two teams was probably the best two teams in the NBA that year. I truly believe that if the Pacers knocked off the Bulls that season they would have beaten the Jazz in the Finals.

    Out of the 6 championships that the Bulls won, there were two games I had doubts about the Bulls pulling out the series and ending their championship run. The first one was Game 7 of the 1992 Conference Semi-Finals against the Knicks. And the other was 1998 game 7 of the ECF against the Pacers. I believe those were the only two moments were the Bulls championship run was being seriously threaten.
    I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X
  • 23
    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #2
    Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

    Yeah but too bad they let Reggie push off to get that shot off too or the series would've been shorter.. but that Pacers team was scary good

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    • st0rmb11
      All Star
      • Nov 2008
      • 5167

      #3
      Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

      I agree that, as a team, Indy was better. Jordan & Pippen single handedly won that series for the Bulls (especially Game 7).
      I also agree that those Pacers were a legit threat to the Bulls in 1998. I disagree that the Pacers would have beaten Utah. Bryon Russell could have held Reggie in check, Malone would have had a much better series against Antonio & Dale Davis than he had against Rodman. I think the point guard match up would have been a wash (if Mark Jackson was on that Pacers squad..can't remember.) The Pacers' best chance at winning would be Rik Smits having his way with Ostertag & Keefe. I just can't say that Indy would've won that series.

      I do think they had a better team than Chicago in '98, but it was a bad match up. There worst 2 defenders (Miller & Rose) were guarding Chicago's best 2 offensive players.

      I will also disagree with your opinion that the '98 Pacers was their best squad - that team in '05 was MUCH better than Detroit, and would have run to the Finals that season, had Metta World Peace, Stephen Jackson, and whoever else not gotten suspended. They had World Peace in his prime, Jax near his prime, Jermaine O'Neal in his prime, Miller was still contributing, Jamaal Tinsley was in his prime..they were a loaded team.


      (and yes, I made it a point to say Metta World Peace, rather than Ron Artest. )

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      • sportjames23
        MVP
        • Jun 2011
        • 1152

        #4
        Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

        The interview is like 5 minutes long but in it he thinks that the Pacers in 98 was better than the Bulls that same year.
        If they were better, they would have won. The better team always wins, so Simmons needs to STFU with that garbage.
        "I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can't accept not trying."

        - Michael Jordan

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        • sportjames23
          MVP
          • Jun 2011
          • 1152

          #5
          Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

          Originally posted by 23
          Yeah but too bad they let Reggie push off to get that shot off too or the series would've been shorter.. but that Pacers team was scary good

          This. Folks like to bitch about Jordan's "push off" on Russell, but Reggie's push was so damn blatant.

          That series should have been over in 5 games. I think to this day, that the League wanted that to go as long as possible since they knew that the Bulls dynasty was nearing the end and wanted as many games with MJ's Bulls as possible.

          Of all the series the Bulls had during the championship years, that's the only one that pissed me off. Even with us winning, I still get pissed thinking about it.
          "I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can't accept not trying."

          - Michael Jordan

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          • ehh
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2003
            • 28960

            #6
            Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

            Originally posted by sportjames23
            Of all the series the Bulls had during the championship years, that's the only one that pissed me off. Even with us winning, I still get pissed thinking about it.
            Probably because it was impossible to like those Pacers teams.

            Of all the great rivalries the Knicks had in the 90's (Chi, Indy, Miami), the Pacers were by far the team I hated the most.
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            • sportjames23
              MVP
              • Jun 2011
              • 1152

              #7
              Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

              LOL, I hear you on that, bro. Hell, as a Bulls fan, even I was cheering for the Knicks over the Pacers back then.
              "I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can't accept not trying."

              - Michael Jordan

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              • ballsohard
                Pro
                • Jan 2012
                • 640

                #8
                Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

                Originally posted by sportjames23
                This. Folks like to bitch about Jordan's "push off" on Russell, but Reggie's push was so damn blatant.
                ...and Jordan's wasn't?

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                • Hotobu
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1438

                  #9
                  Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

                  Originally posted by ballsohard
                  ...and Jordan's wasn't?
                  There are several huge differences.

                  Jordan's was with 1 hand that was already extended Reggie's was with 2.

                  Reggie made Michael Jordan completely change his trajectory, Russel was already going that way.

                  The camera angle for Reggie's was perpendicular to the action so it was much easier to see. Because of the aforementioned differences and this one it makes it look ambiguous as to just how much of an impact Jordan's push had on Russell's trajectory whereas with Reggie on Jordan there was no doubt.

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                  • ballsohard
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 640

                    #10
                    Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

                    Sorry, I don't buy that. They were both blatant push offs.

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                    • stlpimpmonsta
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 1545

                      #11
                      Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

                      Originally posted by 23
                      Yeah but too bad they let Reggie push off to get that shot off too or the series would've been shorter.. but that Pacers team was scary good
                      Bulls fan talking about push offs.............really

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                      • sportjames23
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 1152

                        #12
                        Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

                        Originally posted by ballsohard
                        Sorry, I don't buy that. They were both blatant push offs.

                        Really, son?

                        Check out Reggie's again, @ 36 seconds:



                        Now, look at MJ's @ 36 seconds:




                        Reggie cleared MJ the hell out of his way. MJ wasn't even touching Reggie AT ALL. MJ got Russell, who was hanging all over him, off to gather himself for his last shot.

                        Now, tell me which one was more blatant.
                        "I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can't accept not trying."

                        - Michael Jordan

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                        • sportjames23
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 1152

                          #13
                          Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

                          Originally posted by stlpimpmonsta
                          Bulls fan talking about push offs.............really

                          Yeah, really. See my reply to ballsohard.
                          "I can accept failure, everyone fails at something. But I can't accept not trying."

                          - Michael Jordan

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                          • TheMatrix31
                            RF
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52908

                            #14
                            Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

                            Originally posted by sportjames23
                            If they were better, they would have won. The better team always wins,
                            That is not even close to being true.

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                            • Outcast
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 351

                              #15
                              Re: Interesting take from Bill Simmons on the 1998 ECF

                              Originally posted by sportjames23
                              If they were better, they would have won. The better team always wins, so Simmons needs to STFU with that garbage.
                              Oh my, aren't we naive today...

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