NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

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  • bigeastbumrush
    My Momma's Son
    • Feb 2003
    • 19245

    #856
    Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

    Originally posted by Dice
    Not to say that I'm right BUT I disagree with you assessment of OKC. Right now, the Thunder is probably the second best team in the NBA next to the Miami Heat and right above the Chicago Bulls. That right there is the current 'Holy Trinity' of basketball. Heat, Thunder and Bulls. Any one of those teams can beat the rest of the teams in a 7-game series. Now the question becomes, what about those teams?

    I'm still iffy on the Bulls beating the Heat in a playoff series, even at full strength. However, I'm not married to that feeling. If Deng and Boozer and step it up and Noah outplay the other bigs on the Heat, I can see the Bulls pulling it out.

    I feel OKC has the firepower to take down Miami in a 7-game series for the simple fact is outside of their two superstars, the Thunder have a lot more going for them than the Heat. The Heat's duo of LeBron and Wade might be better than Durant and Westbrook but minus those four players and put the Heat and Thunder in a 7-game series and the Thunder run away in a sweep. Even thought right now I'd place the Heat as the best team in the NBA, I feel that OKC has a better coach and better supporting cast.

    As Bulls fan, it pains me to put the Bulls as the third best team in the league for the simple fact that they don't have the same amount of front-line superstars like the Heat and Thunder. And this is not to say that the Bulls won't win the championship BUT there are too many 'ifs' that need to go right for the Bulls to raise the Larry O'Brien trophy at the end of the year.
    I'm not even entertaining OKC vs. Miami because I don't feel OKC is a lock to make it out of the West.

    We've seen this show before.

    And in a condensed season where teams aren't even practicing...it can look like a runaway train.

    But the playoffs are different.

    I don't feel Scott Brooks is seasoned enough to make the right adjustments in a playoff series. He can get outcoached IMO.

    It's the same reason why I never bet against Doc Rivers.

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    • wizzleman
      Banned
      • Sep 2010
      • 642

      #857
      Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

      Originally posted by Altimus
      That's a over exaggeration. Should have passed better. He forces a lot of passes in there.

      Did you watch the game at all or just doesn't want to give the heat any props ?

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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #858
        Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

        The only teams out West I feel would give OKC fits in the playoffs as of right are Dallas(because they've already proven they can and like 24th said, they seem to always give them fits)and San Antonio but even with them, there's just something about them I don't really trust yet, especially seeing the last time they went up against a "young" team in the playoffs.

        Every other team in the West, I'd take OKC against them without hesistating.

        I don't feel Scott Brooks is seasoned enough to make the right adjustments in a playoff series
        You mean as far as his playoff experience goes?
        Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 02-24-2012, 01:11 PM.
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        • Drewski
          Basketball Reasons
          • Jun 2011
          • 3783

          #859
          Fiesty around here today.

          OKC would have to beat itself out West. Only team I see having a serious chance CURRENTLY is the Spurs, if healthy.

          Who on the Clippers will stop Durant? Caron Butler will be sent to Kobes lunch table. Not to mention Harden. The Clippys don't have perimeter defense outside of Paul. Weak side shot blocker in Deandre, CP3, and freak of nature Blake. Foye, Butler, et all will get eaten up.

          I like the Spurs for the intangibles, savvy, and coaching. As usual they get no love but they're balling hard. Parker is likely the most overlooked PG of the decade and is playing great. Ginosebleed will make Durant work on both ends. Duncan vs. their bigs? Taking Duncan who will put on the post work and drag them out away from the rim, opening things up. Just don't know if they have enough fire power overall, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #860
            Scott Brooks and Spo remind me alot of each other....

            Ton of talent on their hands, great philosophy's....

            But when it comes to coaching outside of that set philosophy and making adjustments, both fail..

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            • ProfessaPackMan
              Bamma
              • Mar 2008
              • 63852

              #861
              Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
              Scott Brooks and Spo remind me alot of each other....

              Ton of talent on their hands, great philosophy's....

              But when it comes to coaching outside of that set philosophy and making adjustments, both fail..
              I can agree with this.

              I think part of this is due to inexperience but it's also something that you can develop/improve over time.
              #RespectTheCulture

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              • Altimus
                Chelsea, Assemble!
                • Nov 2004
                • 27283

                #862
                Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

                Originally posted by wizzleman
                Did you watch the game at all or just doesn't want to give the heat any props ?
                Props to the Heat for stopping Lin? For Lin?

                Heat did what they were suppose to do. What they have talent to do. I recognize that. I'm not going to saying what an amazing job they did stopping a PG that isn't even top 10.

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                • ex carrabba fan
                  I'll thank him for you
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 32744

                  #863
                  Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

                  Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                  Scott Brooks and Spo remind me alot of each other....

                  Ton of talent on their hands, great philosophy's....

                  But when it comes to coaching outside of that set philosophy and making adjustments, both fail..
                  Add Mike Brown to this list?

                  Semi srs

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                  • Altimus
                    Chelsea, Assemble!
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 27283

                    #864
                    Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

                    Originally posted by jeebs9
                    That's the thing about the Heat defense. They make you question your first, second, and sometimes even your third option.
                    It's not just the Heat defense and this is in no way a knock on the Heat. His passing is suspect. Yes he does have some good ones but you can't be +5 on turnovers night in and out.

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                    • wizzleman
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 642

                      #865
                      Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

                      Originally posted by Altimus
                      Props to the Heat for stopping Lin? For Lin?

                      Heat did what they were suppose to do. What they have talent to do. I recognize that. I'm not going to saying what an amazing job they did stopping a PG that isn't even top 10.

                      He was looking like one up until last night

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                      • Drewski
                        Basketball Reasons
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 3783

                        #866
                        Rose, CP, Westbrook, Rondo, Deron, Nash, Parker, Curry, Lowry, Rubio, Irving... just off the top of my head.

                        Wouldn't say Lin in top 10, that's just me though. I would take any of those guys before Lin.

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                        • Altimus
                          Chelsea, Assemble!
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 27283

                          #867
                          Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

                          Way too early to rate Lin that's why he's just outside the box. We know what everyone else is in the top 10 for the most part. Lin is still questionable for me anyway. I want to see the season play out first.

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                          • BleacherBum2310
                            All Star
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 7107

                            #868
                            Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

                            Not even close to Top 10 In PG's for me. Linn finally face a good defensive PG with athletes on the Wings. That's what gave him problems. Not every team has that so he should improve. But I really don't see the turnovers going away considering he's not at all a good passer.
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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #869
                              Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

                              Originally posted by Drewski
                              As it stands OKC has to be favorites going into the finals from the West

                              Coaching, playcalling, execution (late game, against shot clock), decision making will be a factor. When the shots dont fall, I also worry about the lack of post presence. But, as pointed out, they get to the paint (and the line) pretty easily.

                              1/2 a season to go. Alot can change (for OKC and other West teams).

                              Will be an interesting one.
                              Those are all VERY big factors in the playoffs.. if they lack those then uh oh

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                              • bigeastbumrush
                                My Momma's Son
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19245

                                #870
                                Re: NBA Game Discussion Thread Feb 20th - Feb 23rd 2012

                                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                                You mean as far as his playoff experience goes?
                                That and because of what I have seen from him in late game situations.

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