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  • RajonRondo9Celtics
    Rookie
    • Jul 2010
    • 155

    #1

    Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

    Up until recently i would never have thought about starting bradley and bringing ray of the bench, but bradley's play recently makes me think we should. when ray allen is in the starting lineup he doesn't get many shots because most of them go to paul and kg, and having a good cutter in the lineup can get a bunch of easy baskets (as bradley has been doing). not to mention bradley is one of the best onball defenders in the league in my opinion and his defensive intensity raises everyone elses energy level. Bradley also makes us much more athletic and can get to the rim.

    Ray allen could come off the bench as the #1 scoring option, and be able to get more shots up without paul and kg on the floor with him. come end of game situations i think it depends on what you need, if you need D you go with bradley, shooting go with ray ray. What do you guys think?
  • AlexBrady
    MVP
    • Jul 2008
    • 3341

    #2
    Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

    Originally posted by RajonRondo9Celtics
    Up until recently i would never have thought about starting bradley and bringing ray of the bench, but bradley's play recently makes me think we should. when ray allen is in the starting lineup he doesn't get many shots because most of them go to paul and kg, and having a good cutter in the lineup can get a bunch of easy baskets (as bradley has been doing). not to mention bradley is one of the best onball defenders in the league in my opinion and his defensive intensity raises everyone elses energy level. Bradley also makes us much more athletic and can get to the rim.

    Ray allen could come off the bench as the #1 scoring option, and be able to get more shots up without paul and kg on the floor with him. come end of game situations i think it depends on what you need, if you need D you go with bradley, shooting go with ray ray. What do you guys think?
    Bradley is a good off-ball cutter and an energetic defender. Kudos to him for exposing the Heat's highly overrated defense by cutting weak to strong side. Shawn Marion killed Miami with this tactic in the Finals.
    The reason Allen doesn't get many shots is because the Celtics don't have a bulky screener who can generate catch and shoot opportunities. Their bench doesn't have a power player and a top bench scorer should be able to create his own shots. Allen needs to be set up at this point. Allen would be less effective off the bench.
    Danny Ainge, in his infinite wisdom, has failed to acquire bulky power players to strengthen the middle of their defense.

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    • BleacherBum2310
      All Star
      • Aug 2010
      • 7107

      #3
      Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

      I get that, I still think Allen would be really effective, So...

      it would give the Celtics a giant boost coming off their bench and considering their bench is their biggest weakness. I think Doc should consider it.
      Last edited by BleacherBum2310; 04-01-2012, 10:15 PM.
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      • Colts18
        MVP
        • Feb 2010
        • 1959

        #4
        Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

        Brady, what were your thoughts on the Perk trade?

        Also what are your feelings on Wilcox? Even though he is hurt.

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        • RajonRondo9Celtics
          Rookie
          • Jul 2010
          • 155

          #5
          Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

          I don't think ray would be that much less effective coming off the bench, and it gives the celtics someone off the bench that teams have to pay attention to which would open up the floor more for other players. I mostly want bradley to start due to his defense though, amazing defensive player that pumps up the rest of the team, and gives rondo someone else to run with.

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          • Moses Shuttlesworth
            AB>
            • Aug 2006
            • 9435

            #6
            Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

            I personally think it would be highly beneficial for the Celtics but Doc is in love with the vets; let's be honest, he won't start AB over Ray.

            Bradley is an excellent cutter and the best defender on the team. Even a higher volume shooter than Ray.

            Gimme AB's slashes over Ray's 3's for the first 10 minutes of the game. Then Ray comes off the bench for some firepower with Bass, Dooling, Stiemsma and Pietrus.

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            • BleacherBum2310
              All Star
              • Aug 2010
              • 7107

              #7
              Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

              As of Now. Allen is good to go versus the Spurs and will start according to Doc Rivers.




              so much for the Bradley experiment.
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              • RajonRondo9Celtics
                Rookie
                • Jul 2010
                • 155

                #8
                Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

                i'm not surprised ray's starting, but i wish they'd just see how ray coming off the bench would do, why mess with something that ain't broken? (unless ray got mad, but he said he'd be willing to come off the bench)

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                • AlexBrady
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 3341

                  #9
                  Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

                  Originally posted by Colts18
                  Brady, what were your thoughts on the Perk trade?

                  Also what are your feelings on Wilcox? Even though he is hurt.
                  The Perkins trade was somewhat understandable given his contract demands (4 years and 35 million) and injury history, but the Celtics didn't have a heavyweight big man to replace him. Shaq was done, Jermaine O'Neal was soft, Kristic was lightweight, Glen Davis was a head case. Ray Allen needs bulky screens to discourage defenders from 'tailgating' him. Garnett is a decent ball-screener, but Allen needs off-ball screens.

                  The middle of Boston's defense was compromised because they are succeptible to dive cutters, and there wasn't a menacing big to discourage these cutters or ball penetraters. Nor can they firmly control their defensive glass without an extra large big commanding prime real estate. No question, the Perkins trade had a negative impact on Boston.

                  Wilcox is a finesse player, a runner and a flyer. Better attacking the offensive glass than controlling the defensive glass. Can't score unless he gets a dummy pass over the top. Can't pass or handle. Never been accused of playing defense. Always had trouble staying healthy. Hopefully he makes a full recovery from his heart condition.

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                  • Colts18
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1959

                    #10
                    Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

                    Ray Allen could return from injury on Wednesday and his new role could be coming off the bench.

                    The Celtics have found success in pairing Rajon Rondo with Avery Bradley.

                    “We think about stuff like that all the time, no doubt,’’ Rivers said after Tuesday’s practice. “That, and other guys. We’ll see how it goes. Maybe it will be somebody else, we’ll see.’’

                    Allen said he would accept a bench role.

                    “Whatever we need to do as a team,’’ Allen said. “I think the effort that I’ve seen over the last week and a half, two weeks, is great. Whatever combinations we work out there, we’re all good enough, we’re all professional enough, to understand it. We know our plays. We’re at a point in the season where everybody knows who each other is. So, remembering plays and positions is second nature now for all of us.’’



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                    • Drewski
                      Basketball Reasons
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 3783

                      #11
                      Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

                      Gonna go out on a limb and say Bradley will be the C's starter next year.
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                      • Dice
                        Sitting by the door
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 6627

                        #12
                        Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

                        Rarely do you see a relatively young perimeter player play defense like Bradley. Most of the times, these guys don’t develop defensively until later in their career. But Bradley has grasped defense early in his career, which is great because he’ll always have a roster spot on an NBA team. HOWEVER, him being a full time starting 2-guard is gonna be a problem for him and for whatever team he plays for.

                        Bradley is just not tall enough(6’2”) and not good of a shooter to be an offensive threat at the starting 2 spot. Yeah, he’s a good cutter but when he starts facing tall and lanky teams who can either protect the paint his cutting ability won’t mean much. He’ll also have trouble against physical teams because at his height and weight, he could easily get bumped off by a big.

                        As most stated, Bradley is an excellent defender. On a contending team, he would be the first guard off the bench to come in an shut down a quick scoring guard. Which most other contending teams has. BUT as a starter, I’m not sure about it. If the Celtics want to get back to contending status, they’d keep Bradley on the bench and find a replacement for Ray Allen when he retires. Bradley to me is a shorter version of Ronnie Brewer. Brewer is 6’7” and he be hard pressed to find a starting 2-guard role in the league. The only reason why Brewer starts now is because ‘Crip’ Hamilton got hurt. If Bradley got to be a threat from the outside, then I’d reconsider. But for now, he’s a bench guy.
                        I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                        • Moses Shuttlesworth
                          AB>
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 9435

                          #13
                          Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

                          He's actually not a bad shooter.

                          Better than Rondo.

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                          • Dice
                            Sitting by the door
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 6627

                            #14
                            Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

                            Originally posted by Moses Shuttlesworth
                            He's actually not a bad shooter.

                            Better than Rondo.

                            Yeah, that's like saying your the tallest midget.
                            I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                            • RedSceptile
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 3680

                              #15
                              Re: Should the celtics start Avery Bradley?

                              Originally posted by Dice
                              Yeah, that's like saying your the tallest midget.
                              Or as Jeff Van Gundy said regarding Nick Young being the Wizards leading scorer last night "That's like being the best swimmer on the Titanic"

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