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  • Sam Marlowe
    Banned
    • Aug 2010
    • 1230

    #16
    Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

    Originally posted by WTF
    Have you even watched him since the coaching change?



    He has it together, and is calling out dudes who get calls for no apparent reason, other than "they're flashy". Blake has done NOTHING in the league, other than jumping over the drivers side front quarter panel of a car, which means he jumped over the headlight assembly, and that's basically it.

    Does that deserve superstar treatment? I guess it does in this day in age.

    Cousins had a VERY rough start, but he's gotten his stuff together and is playing up to his talent level.

    If you want to call someone one of the greatest all time busts, why don't you know something about them first:

    Spoiler, Large Image (Comparison)
    Spoiler
    Spare me.

    I've seen DeMarcus Cousins' act since his days in high school. I followed that class very closely including the players that found their way to the SEC. If anyone has been the definition of a spoiled punk with a sorry work ethic its him. He's having a good run and if he's really turned the corner than good on him. But against the backdrop of every substantive shred of evidence we have on Cousins the basketball player its less than a drop in the bucket. With his talent, size and natural skill he could easily have been doing what Kevin Love is doing right (in terms of production, not stat specific like 3 point shooting ect). If his career were to end as we speak then he would find himself on the most every bust list we could find. You have no right to call someone out when just 3 months ago people were wondering if you were going to play yourself out of the League. STFU, play the game and earn that right and respect. Getting your act together for month or so doesn't buy it for you.

    When it comes to Blake Griffin, aside from his theatrics and lack of skill(which I'll get to later) he's a hard worker and doesn't mind putting his body on the line. He's been that way since day one. You can say what you will about certain areas of his game but his heart and willingness to to do dirty work can't be questioned. If you wanna call him out for being a flopper, fine. The League rewards floppers and so now its become a epidemic. Its no accident that many of top 15 players in the game also happen to be some of the best actors as well. Thats the culture of the game today. If you wanna say that he's being given special treatment knock yourself out. Just also recognize the fact that the NBA has been in the business of trying to manufacture stars for quite some time now. Hell KD was getting superstar treatment by his second year (not that he needed the help). But whatever you do, don't act like Griffin is some kind of deviation from the mean. Don't act like he's some kind of outlier against a pure, almost magical League where everyone is treated equally and everybody plays the game the right way. This is a League where guys beat their chests when they get breakaway dunks and their team is down by 20+. This is a League where players have refined flopping techniques to the point where if they don't get the call they feel like they've been cheated out of something. Hell this is a League where a man is being praised for not holding his team hostage and creating a circus.

    In the context of the NBA circa 2012, Blake Griffin staring at people and getting calls should be the least of your worries.

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    • Richie030587
      Rookie
      • Apr 2009
      • 187

      #17
      Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

      Some of the dislike is jealousy but a lot of it comes from what everyone has said. It's like Pau Gasol said the other night after getting dunked on twice, "I'll take wins over highlights any day of the week." Blake Griffin is very gifted atheltically but is his game going to get any better? Maybe I'm on the whole over-hyped thing but he really is.

      In reality, it's just the whole Clippers deal right now. They've been horrible for every year but 2006 when Cassel, Mobley, Maggette, Brand, and Kaman had them within one game of the WCF. I've been to a few Clippers game this year and the Clipper fan base is a joke now. They are dead silent throughout the game and just wait around until Blake dunks to get hyped up. He's just got an arrogant look and way about him and his game is very good but is he really going to get any better?? He has one of the best point guards in the game to play alongside him and his numbers are actually down from last year. You can say that the talent around him is a lot better, which is true, but his game is just athleticism and dunks...for now. If he gains a consistent mid-range game and can hit some free throws, he'll become unstoppable, especially late in games. For now, it's just a lot of flash and no substance.

      The whole stare-down thing and whining when he doesn't get a call, which is every possession, makes him a very easily hated player right now. As is the entire Clipper organization right now. But then again, it's easy to hate when your future is as bright as the Clippers right now.

      We'll see what happens with the Clipps but for now, it's just a bunch of athletic, flashy players who are getting it done now but are going to be exposed mightely in the Playoffs when Blake and Deandre can't get to the rim and dunk as easily when a team with a good coaching staff, which is all of the Playoff teams in the west, can scout him in a seven game series. If Chauncey was still healthy with CP3 running the show, they would've advanced to the second round but Playoff basketball is all about throwing the ball to the block and getting buckets in the half-court. NOT throwing the ball to the high post and attempting to get the rim and dunking and then when it doesn't work out, staring down the ref and asking for a call while the other team is running it down your throat because Blake didn't get back on defense.

      First round exit, Blake and crew. You'll always be the Lakers little brother.

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      • DukeC
        Banned
        • Jul 2011
        • 5751

        #18
        Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

        Originally posted by Sam Marlowe
        Spare me.

        I've seen DeMarcus Cousins' act since his days in high school. I followed that class very closely including the players that found their way to the SEC. If anyone has been the definition of a spoiled punk with a sorry work ethic its him. He's having a good run and if he's really turned the corner than good on him. But against the backdrop of every substantive shred of evidence we have on Cousins the basketball player its less than a drop in the bucket. With his talent, size and natural skill he could easily have been doing what Kevin Love is doing right (in terms of production, not stat specific like 3 point shooting ect). If his career were to end as we speak then he would find himself on the most every bust list we could find. You have no right to call someone out when just 3 months ago people were wondering if you were going to play yourself out of the League. STFU, play the game and earn that right and respect. Getting your act together for month or so doesn't buy it for you.

        When it comes to Blake Griffin, aside from his theatrics and lack of skill(which I'll get to later) he's a hard worker and doesn't mind putting his body on the line. He's been that way since day one. You can say what you will about certain areas of his game but his heart and willingness to to do dirty work can't be questioned. If you wanna call him out for being a flopper, fine. The League rewards floppers and so now its become a epidemic. Its no accident that many of top 15 players in the game also happen to be some of the best actors as well. Thats the culture of the game today. If you wanna say that he's being given special treatment knock yourself out. Just also recognize the fact that the NBA has been in the business of trying to manufacture stars for quite some time now. Hell KD was getting superstar treatment by his second year (not that he needed the help). But whatever you do, don't act like Griffin is some kind of deviation from the mean. Don't act like he's some kind of outlier against a pure, almost magical League where everyone is treated equally and everybody plays the game the right way. This is a League where guys beat their chests when they get breakaway dunks and their team is down by 20+. This is a League where players have refined flopping techniques to the point where if they don't get the call they feel like they've been cheated out of something. Hell this is a League where a man is being praised for not holding his team hostage and creating a circus.

        In the context of the NBA circa 2012, Blake Griffin staring at people and getting calls should be the least of your worries.
        I fail to see how anyone averaging 15 and 10 for his career (so far) goes on a bust list. Not meeting expectations? Yeah, you could probably put him in that category. But dudes on here also think Vince Carter didn't live up to expectation by not surpassing Jordan....

        Okay. .

        Also, I doubt WTF cares about Blake to that extent that he thinks Blake is everything that's wrong with the NBA. But this....man, this right here gives me every reason to dislike Blake:

        <iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ev1M1AYQR3s" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="560"></iframe>

        Cousins had every right to complain. Hell, Everyone would complain if a dude did that bull on the court.

        Not to mention his absolutely revolting flop on Kevin Love in which he could've injured himself.

        Edit: <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/IlVhyzqYQQ4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/2EVPzbkpgQs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

        And this: Nothing to do with the above. Just thought this **** was hilarious!

        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6eOmJF7CmZ4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
        Last edited by DukeC; 04-07-2012, 01:01 AM.

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        • K0ZZ
          The Hard Way
          • Dec 2004
          • 3871

          #19
          Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

          He is overhyped.

          He is a great dunker, but you rarely hear anything else he does.

          I would love to see the Clippers succeed, but floppers make the NBA look awful, Paul Pierce, LBJ/Wade and Griffin are at the top of my short list of floppers. With the first and last being the worst, the middle two really just get the superstar treatment.

          People need to remember, it's not like Griffin is a 5'4, 100 lb kid, he has muscle and height, there is no way he is completely getting thrown all over the court like he acts like he does.

          Garbage, awful and an insult to the game.

          Edit: That flop against Wade is hilarious, reminds me of a ragdoll tackle in Backbreakers, he just completely shattered. lolol
          Last edited by K0ZZ; 04-07-2012, 01:09 AM.
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          • cdg0219
            Rookie
            • Dec 2011
            • 131

            #20
            Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

            DeMarcus Cousins and Blake Griffin are the harbingers of DEATH! Of basketball.

            Also, most players just want to win. If the refs let them flop to gain an advantage, they'll do it.

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            • JerzeyReign
              MVP
              • Jul 2009
              • 4847

              #21
              Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

              Originally posted by WTF
              Players don't like the fact that he flops at every single chance he gets. He taunts and stares down guys after blatant offensive fouls that the refs let go. If calls don't go his way, he flops even harder, and stares down the officiating, and yet doesn't get T'ed up for it.

              Dude is bitchmade in the finest sense of the word.

              Good job Cousins.
              My response has already been posted. Now get out of my head! lol
              #WashedGamer

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              • Sam Marlowe
                Banned
                • Aug 2010
                • 1230

                #22
                Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

                Originally posted by DukeC
                I fail to see how anyone averaging 15 and 10 for his career (so far) goes on a bust list. Not meeting expectations? Yeah, you could probably put him in that category. But dudes on here also think Vince Carter didn't live up to expectation by not surpassing Jordan....

                Okay. .

                Also, I doubt WTF cares about Blake to that extent that he thinks Blake is everything that's wrong with the NBA.
                DeMarcus Cousin's having the talent to easily be a 25 and 15 player and Vince Carter not being MJ don't have a thing to do with one another. Vince Carter entering Jordan territory would essentially be a quantum leap. Cousins playing the game the right way is/was a simple matter of attitude and commitment to the game. Horrible comparison, bad use of hyperbole.

                Lastly, I've never argued about WTF thinking Griffin is everything wrong with the NBA. WTF is a fully functioning human being to my knowledge, when he decides to post whats on his mind then we'll know whats on his mind. As for your videos, welcome to the NBA in 2012. Where the guys at the top are your best floppers as well. Dig it? I sure as hell dont..

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                • Sam Marlowe
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1230

                  #23
                  Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

                  Originally posted by chicagopax
                  People need to remember, it's not like Griffin is a 5'4, 100 lb kid, he has muscle and height, there is no way he is completely getting thrown all over the court like he acts like he does.
                  You've just described pretty much every NBA player that makes a living by flopping.

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                  • WTF
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 20274

                    #24
                    Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

                    Originally posted by Sam Marlowe
                    DeMarcus Cousin's having the talent to easily be a 25 and 15 player and Vince Carter not being MJ don't have a thing to do with one another. Vince Carter entering Jordan territory would essentially be a quantum leap. Cousins playing the game the right way is/was a simple matter of attitude and commitment to the game. Horrible comparison, bad use of hyperbole.

                    Lastly, I've never argued about WTF thinking Griffin is everything wrong with the NBA. WTF is a fully functioning human being to my knowledge, when he decides to post whats on his mind then we'll know whats on his mind. As for your videos, welcome to the NBA in 2012. Where the guys at the top are your best floppers as well. Dig it? I sure as hell dont..
                    Originally posted by Sam Marlowe
                    You've just described pretty much every NBA player that makes a living by flopping.
                    And these things, we agree highly on. And I think that's what is bringing the hard fouls towards Blake. Dude's are sick of seeing this beast of a guy, both physically speaking and athletically, flop around like a rag doll. The guy COULD be a Shawn Kemp style early on in his career, dunking on guys, giving out hard fouls, but instead he's the larger version of his PG Chris Paul, flopping and looking for bailout calls.

                    That "poke in the eye" is a disgrace to the league. There's a different camera angle that shows Cousins hand didn't get close to even brushing his face. But yet you throw your head back and look to the refs for a foul (which was incredibly late). The ref didn't blow his whistle until after Griffin looks at him like "Aren't you going to blow your whistle and acknowledge my supreme acting performance?"

                    That **** gets on peoples nerves. Even if I were playing down at the Rec center, if dude's start flopping like that, you can damn well bet that the rest of the guys will be hammering him for the rest of the night, showing him what a real foul feels like.

                    I think that's where the "HATE" comes from. It's technically a "call out" for the flopping, bitching and complaining he does. If he wants to complain, center guys will give him something to legitimately complain about.

                    I just wish I could watch their game today. I'm assuming that Blake will shy away from any and all contact with Cousins.

                    This league is a joke with all of this stuff. I watched a WNBA game and the amount of contact that the girls put up with is double what we have in the NBA.
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                    • Sam Marlowe
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1230

                      #25
                      Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

                      I'm with u on all of that WTF. The BS that goes on along with the general lack of skill are why I dont even watch much NBA ball anyomre. But when the League essentially encourages that kind of play then Im not sure how much we can bang on people for taking advantage of it.

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #26
                        Just now read all Cousins comments... LOL

                        Feel how you want about BG, but Cousins has no business talking about the current state of the league....if any thing it's his immaturity that's the "standard for the league" I don't care how well he's been playing as of late. Dude couldn't make it through that interview without making a sideways comment about his own teams defense.

                        Great example of how people see what they want to see..

                        That said: looking forward to the rubber match. I actually think he's right about some things. In always down for some battles between players...
                        Last edited by The 24th Letter; 04-07-2012, 08:39 AM.

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                        • KSOR24
                          Pro
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 949

                          #27
                          Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

                          Blake Griffin flops so much which is why I appreciated Jason Smith's hard foul on him. He is completely overrated, and it astonishes me that some consider him a superstar. He has no post game, is a terrible free throw shooter, a below average jump shooter (he's improved a little), can't play defense, I could go on but the only thing he's capable of doing is dunking over people by using his off hand to hold their arm or in Gasol's case throw elbows. People think he's talented because he's always on SportsCenter's Top 10 Plays which proves nothing. Against the Lakers he obliterated Gasol twice and his team still lost the game. Like they say, an alley-oop is still 2 points so no matter how many highlight reels he's in, he's not any better of a player than the average power forward.
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                          • DukeC
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 5751

                            #28
                            Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

                            Blake is good. I wouldn't call him average. Average would be averaging 10 and 10. Fringe All star is averaging 15 and 10. All star is averaging 20 and 10. Blake Griffin IS an All-Star. He's just not the best PF in the league as some are making him out to be.

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                            • LetThatBoyCook
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 462

                              #29
                              Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

                              Blake Griffin is a pretty *****. Pretty ******* get what they want.


                              Nuff said.

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                              • SidVish
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                                • Apr 2003
                                • 11743

                                #30
                                Re: Why Do Players HATE Blake Griffin??!!...

                                Originally posted by LetThatBoyCook
                                Blake Griffin is a pretty *****. Pretty ******* get what they want.


                                Nuff said.
                                What?
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