Top 5 at each position

[Scott812313]

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Melo didn't even play well in the playoffs this year and he still looked 1000x better than Pierce. Garnett and Rondo carried the team in the playoffs.

Crazy what an MCL sprain can do to a basketball player, with minimal time to rest it.

PG
1. Deron Williams
2. Russell Westbrook
3. Rajon Rondo
4. CP3
5. Derrick Rose (post injury)

SG
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwayne Wade
3. James Harden
4. Manu Ginobili
5. Eric Gordon

SF
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Carmelo Anthony
4. Paul Pierce
5. Andre Iguodala

PF
1. Kevin Love
2. Dirk Nowitski
3. LaMarcus Aldridge
4. Blake Griffin
5. Pau Gasol

C
1. Dwight Howard
2. Andrew Bynum
3. Marc Gasol
4. DeMarcus Cousins
5. Tyson Chandler

[chance]

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Paul Pierce has missed the playoffs 5 times compared to Carmelo's big fat ZERO


Not to even mention a few of those times Boston was favorites to win the draft lottery lol but yeah Melo ain't a winner

[DukeC]

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So if Cousins was so good why didn't he make the USA selection team?
Coache's even said that he needs growing up to do and polish his o and d more or won't last in the league.

That doesn't have to do with anything. There is evidence staring you in the face and you refuse to see it. Bynum has growing up to do but he's still a Top 5, Top 3 Center in the league. And, like all young Centers, he's going to hack some people and get in foul trouble. It took Tyson a LONG time to get his act together and start dominating defensively. Cousins is well on his way. Hell, what he's capable of doing offensively outweighs the negatives he brings on defense. He's just THAT good.

Of course, on a team filled with wing players who can score the ball....what use would he be if he's not out there scoring and is instead relegated to playing defense? Hell, that's what the Center position is to the USA team. A defensive position where you're going to be lucky to see the ball 10 times a game. That's not going to sit well with anyone who has confidence in there offensive game, least of all Cousins who has an admittedly explosive temperament

And, like I said before, that still doesn't mean Cousins isn't a Top 5 center....because he is.

[FloydNDLAL]

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That doesn't have to do with anything. There is evidence staring you in the face and you refuse to see it. Bynum has growing up to do but he's still a Top 5, Top 3 Center in the league. And, like all young Centers, he's going to hack some people and get in foul trouble. It took Tyson a LONG time to get his act together and start dominating defensively. Cousins is well on his way. Hell, what he's capable of doing offensively outweighs the negatives he brings on defense. He's just THAT good.

Of course, on a team filled with wing players who can score the ball....what use would he be if he's not out there scoring and is instead relegated to playing defense? Hell, that's what the Center position is to the USA team. A defensive position where you're going to be lucky to see the ball 10 times a game. That's not going to sit well with anyone who has confidence in there offensive game, least of all Cousins who has an admittedly explosive temperament

And, like I said before, that still doesn't mean Cousins isn't a Top 5 center....because he is.

If he was then obviously the USA would of had him on the roster because they only have one true Center and that is Tyson Chandler.

Please don't even say that he is a top #5 Center. There is easily 5 more better centers than him.

[DukeC]

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If he was then obviously the USA would of had him on the roster because they only have one true Center and that is Tyson Chandler.

Please don't even say that he is a top #5 Center. There is easily 5 more better centers than him.

You're not going to find the majority of posters on OS who agree with this sentiment.

And you're not going to find a lot of NBA GM's OR Coaches who agree with this sentiment. Unless, of course, you ask a coach whose philosophy is his way or the highway instead of compromise. Demarcus is going to rub coaches, hell, people, the wrong way. With coach Smart in SacTown though I think Cousins is changing into a more mature player.

But that sentence I just bolded is ignorant at this point.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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If he was then obviously the USA would of had him on the roster because they only have one true Center and that is Tyson Chandler.

Please don't even say that he is a top #5 Center. There is easily 5 more better centers than him.

...right, which is the same reason that guys like Tayshaun Prince and Lamar Odom were on Team USA recently. They're top 5 at their respective positions.

[DieHardYankee26]

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If he was then obviously the USA would of had him on the roster because they only have one true Center and that is Tyson Chandler.

Please don't even say that he is a top #5 Center. There is easily 5 more better centers than him.

Ignoring the fact the he is a top 5 center (which he is), why do you continue to use Team USA as your argument as if it holds weight? That has nothing to do with the NBA season. There's a lot of guys who are top 5 at their position and aren't on Team USA. It may look like an all star team, but at some point they do have to pick people to play roles. They don't need offense so Cousins didn't make it, has nothing to do with how talented he is or his standing in the NBA.

[DukeC]

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Now, if you really want to compare stats I can do that.

Demarcus Cousins: 18.1 PPG /11.0 RPG/1.4 SPG/1.4 BPG/45% FG/70% FT/

(Last year)Brook Lopez: 20.4 PPG / 6 RPG/.6 SPG/1.5 BPG/49% FG/78% FT

Roy Hibbert: 12.8 PPG/ 8.8 RPG/.5 SPG/2.0 BPG/50% FG/71% FT

Marc Gasol: 14.6 PPG/ 8.9 RPG/1 SPG/ 1.9 BPG/48% FG/75% FT

Andrew Bynum: 18.7 PPG/ 11.8 RPG/.4 SPG/1.9 BPG/56% FG/69% FT

Now, out of all those Centers, the ONLY one you can even argue that is better than Cousins is Bynum. Based on stats. Now, had Cousins not hacked everyone to death and registered 4.0 FPG, you would see an even better statline, but that's what coach Smart is working on. His maturity, because a lot of his fouls are stupid and result from his temper.

[FloydNDLAL]

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#1 Dwight Howard
#2 Andrew Bynum
#3 Marc Gasol
#4 Marcin Gortat
#5 Greg Monroe

[DieHardYankee26]

Andrew Bogut plays in like 20 games per year. No argument can be made that he is better than Cousins.

[FloydNDLAL]

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Andrew Bogut plays in like 20 games per year. No argument can be made that he is better than Cousins.

I mean't Marcin Gortat.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I mean't Marcin Gortat.

Gortat literally can't do anything except set a screen, roll, and dunk the ball. He's top 10 in the NBA in scoring out of pick and rolls and I think outside the top 150 in every other category.

[RedSceptile]

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Let's see what Marcin Gortat does with no hall of fame PG before proclaiming him top 5.

[FloydNDLAL]

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Gortat literally can't do anything except set a screen, roll, and dunk the ball. He's top 10 in the NBA in scoring out of pick and rolls and I think outside the top 150 in every other category.

So He is 150 in blocking,steals,and rebounds?
And why is cousins listed as a PF.

[DukeC]

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So He is 150 in blocking,steals,and rebounds?
And why is cousins listed as a PF.

Because it's ESPN. They still have Tyreke listed at PG. He's been the SF since halfway through this season.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/demarcus_cousins/