Still a big difference between "monumental upset" and "greatest upset in Olympic history" which is what I would consider it if the US doesn't win the gold this year. And winning by less than 20 against all but maybe 2 teams would be disappointing. If we were talking 2004 I could see the arrogant stance but I don't think we're a group of ignorant fans pounding our chest while singing the Team America theme song. Based on all the factors in play right now, these things shouldn't be in question at all.
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Still a big difference between "monumental upset" and "greatest upset in Olympic history" which is what I would consider it if the US doesn't win the gold this year. And winning by less than 20 against all but maybe 2 teams would be disappointing. If we were talking 2004 I could see the arrogant stance but I don't think we're a group of ignorant fans pounding our chest while singing the Team America theme song. Based on all the factors in play right now, these things shouldn't be in question at all. -
Best game if the Olympics!
What a finish.
If you missed Brazil/Russia...you missed a good one.
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Every year, it would be the biggest upset in Olympic history. 2008 would have been a bigger upset if you wanna compare this summer to that summer.
It'll be interesting to see what Vegas handicaps the lines at throughout the USA games. I tend to agree with them, so if they handicap the U.S. by 20 or what have you, that would be interesting.
Also, Russia and Brazil look pretty good today. Two of the teams I would expect to give USA a solid to good challenge.
Minnesota got themselves two solid players in AK-47 and the point guard Shved. If they are used right, I expect Minnesota to compete for a playoff spot.Comment
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And he got fouled.
Two well coached teams with two NBA caliber point guards and a number of bigs.
Hopefully Mosgov isn't injured too badly because that would be a huge blow to their medal chances.Comment
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Every year, it would be the biggest upset in Olympic history. 2008 would have been a bigger upset if you wanna compare this summer to that summer.
It'll be interesting to see what Vegas handicaps the lines at throughout the USA games. I tend to agree with them, so if they handicap the U.S. by 20 or what have you, that would be interesting.
Also, Russia and Brazil look pretty good today. Two of the teams I would expect to give USA a solid to good challenge.
Minnesota got themselves two solid players in AK-47 and the point guard Shved. If they are used right, I expect Minnesota to compete for a playoff spot.Comment
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Do you think 2008 would have been a bigger upset than 2012? I'm not getting your point.
I think 2012 team has some holes and injuries [size especially lacking], I think that's been well documented. That, coupled with the fact that I believe Russia, Brazil and Lithuania are solid teams, is why I said I don't expect the USA to blowout every team on their run. I expect them to get gold, but not to necessarily destroy every country.
Saying an opinion sounds arrogant isn't calling them arrogant, just to straighten that out.Comment
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Do you think 2008 would have been a bigger upset than 2012?
Saying an opinion sounds arrogant isn't calling them arrogant, just to straighten that out.
FWIW, I was the only one who had doubts about how this team would do way before even the final 18 was announced because of their lack of size coming into the games and all I was told by some folks on here was they'll be fine because they were too good or something to that extent.
At the end of the day, most of us just have different expectations then you. We expect to blow MOST countries in here and you don't. It is what it is.#RespectTheCultureComment
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Do you think 2008 would have been a bigger upset than 2012? I'm not getting your point.
I think 2012 team has some holes and injuries [size especially lacking], I think that's been well documented. That, coupled with the fact that I believe Russia, Brazil and Lithuania are solid teams, is why I said I don't expect the USA to blowout every team on their run. I expect them to get gold, but not to necessarily destroy every country.
Saying an opinion sounds arrogant isn't calling them arrogant, just to straighten that out.
The last part is just semantics. No one's taking offense to the statement, just arguing that it's inappropriate in this situation which I agree with. There are facts to back up the opinion.Comment
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Expectations are great, don't get me wrong. I expect the USA to get Gold and I would expect the talent on the team to win out 100%.
However I don't feel like you guys have maybe watched the other countries enough, or if you have, I feel like you guys aren't quite giving the proper respect.
We disagree, won't be the first or last time. Not calling you an arrogant chest-beating American or anything foolish like that by any stretch if that's what anyone thought, I was simply saying it was a arrogant view in regards/respects to what I've seen of the other countries.
Wwharton, I'm still not sure what your point is but I think we've all said our part so now we will let the games play out. You were saying something about how this would be the greatest upset in Olympic history. I'm not so sure about that at all, seems like quite a debatable topic.. but it's whatever. Like I said, it'll be interesting to see how Vegas handicaps these games.Comment
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Expectations are great, don't get me wrong. I expect the USA to get Gold and I would expect the talent on the team to win out 100%.
However I don't feel like you guys have maybe watched the other countries enough, or if you have, I feel like you guys aren't quite giving the proper respect.
We disagree, won't be the first or last time. Not calling you an arrogant chest-beating American or anything foolish like that by any stretch if that's what anyone thought, I was simply saying it was a arrogant view in regards/respects to what I've seen of the other countries.Comment
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Well from you guys saying you should blowout every team, that seems enough for me to seem like it's an arrogant view to have. It's quite simple. The other countries deserve some respect IMO, I think there's some solid challenges outside of Spain/Argentina.Comment
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Here's a story for you. I know a 13 year old kid. He's pretty good, and in his league is definitely one of the best kids out there. I watched him in a pick up game matched up against a guy set to play in Europe next year. Am I disrespecting that kid by saying the other guy is going to destroy him?
Not once did anyone challenge the idea that the other teams are getting much better. But, as stated, they still aren't good enough. That's all that's to it. You don't even think they're good enough and are just arguing at the comment of them being "blown out". Well based on what we've seen and know that's what we think... nothing arrogant about it.Comment
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Expectations are great, don't get me wrong. I expect the USA to get Gold and I would expect the talent on the team to win out 100%.
However I don't feel like you guys have maybe watched the other countries enough, or if you have, I feel like you guys aren't quite giving the proper respect.
We disagree, won't be the first or last time. Not calling you an arrogant chest-beating American or anything foolish like that by any stretch if that's what anyone thought, I was simply saying it was a arrogant view in regards/respects to what I've seen of the other countries.
If I never watched a single minute of those countries play prior to the Olympics, then I wouldn't have made that statement about blowing everyone out. But we get our first official test on Saturday(or was that France?)against Lithuania so we'll see how that goes.#RespectTheCultureComment
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What are you basing your view on? The assumption that we haven't watched the other teams enough? Or, in other words, you feel you know more about the other countries to make a worthwhile opinion on it than us... which is more arrogant.
Here's a story for you. I know a 13 year old kid. He's pretty good, and in his league is definitely one of the best kids out there. I watched him in a pick up game matched up against a guy set to play in Europe next year. Am I disrespecting that kid by saying the other guy is going to destroy him?
Not once did anyone challenge the idea that the other teams are getting much better. But, as stated, they still aren't good enough. That's all that's to it. You don't even think they're good enough and are just arguing at the comment of them being "blown out". Well based on what we've seen and know that's what we think... nothing arrogant about it.
But see, I've actually watched those other countries(thank goodness for the Internet and the ability to watch any game you want for free)on more than one occasion and I saw nothing from them to think that they would be a formidable challenge to us for a full 40 minutes.
If I never watched a single minute of those countries play prior to the Olympics, then I wouldn't have made that statement about blowing everyone out. But we get our first official test on Saturday(or was that France?)against Lithuania so we'll see how that goes.
Lithuania, Russia, Brazil are the teams that I believe can give them a stiff challenge outside of Spain/Brazil.Comment
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