Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

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  • youvalss
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    • Feb 2007
    • 16600

    #46
    Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

    If Knight ever gets the chance to dunk over Jordan (if he even can), that should be a good one.
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    • ProfessaPackMan
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      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #47
      Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

      Originally posted by ojandpizza
      I like dunks like the VC over Mourning one you just posted.

      I'm always more impressed by a guy who just takes it hard to rack and dunks over somebody.

      It's much easier to catch an oop or get a tip-slam over someone, especially when they don't realize it's coming, than it is to take it hard at a guy waiting to block your shot and just rising over him..

      I'm sure there are some people in here who can dunk or used to could dunk. What are your opinions? For me personally 9 times out of 10 a guy waiting to block me alters my "dunk" into a lay-up.. Where as on rebounds and lobs its easier because they have to react, and often times it isn't quick enough because I'm already in the air.
      I'm guessing if it was Steve Blake, you would've dunked on him with no problem though, right?
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      • jfsolo
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        • May 2003
        • 12965

        #48
        Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

        To me the problem with Knight's attempted contest of the lob was that he ran parallel to the basket and then jumped in the air after Jordan had gotten a head of steam. If he had ran right at Jordan and jumped from about a foot away from Jordan's body he stops the dunk for sure and just gets called for the foul. Knowing Deandre, without the hype of the made dunk, he probably misses both free throws.
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        • The 24th Letter
          ERA
          • Oct 2007
          • 39373

          #49
          Originally posted by ojandpizza
          I like dunks like the VC over Mourning one you just posted.

          I'm always more impressed by a guy who just takes it hard to rack and dunks over somebody.

          It's much easier to catch an oop or get a tip-slam over someone, especially when they don't realize it's coming, than it is to take it hard at a guy waiting to block your shot and just rising over him..

          I'm sure there are some people in here who can dunk or used to could dunk. What are your opinions? For me personally 9 times out of 10 a guy waiting to block me alters my "dunk" into a lay-up.. Where as on rebounds and lobs its easier because they have to react, and often times it isn't quick enough because I'm already in the air.
          I'd rather be going at someone. There's a lot more that I can control...

          Catching the ball, your fair game....even if the guy is smaller than you, that all evens our in the air...

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          • mb625
            DJ2K
            • Jan 2012
            • 5016

            #50
            Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

            Originally posted by wwharton
            I see what you're getting at, but to be extra technical, he did not do the only thing to prevent the dunk... bc he didn't prevent the dunk. In short, ignoring the theatrics and posterization, he gave up two points and a trip to the foul line so whatever he was trying to do didn't work. In that sense, it would've made more sense to get out of the way. I'm not mad at him for trying to do something to prevent it, but in this case he should've gotten out of the way bc he had no choice but to foul and couldn't prevent the shot from going in (two things he probably could've assessed before jumping).
            In my eyes, he saw the play developing, sagged off of his man into the lane and made a play on the ball in the air that, if that pass was off, would probably have resulted in a turnover. And, as was previously mentioned, Jordan isn't the greatest FT shooter, so fouling him is a pretty smart play. Ultimately, he read the play and made the best play on the ball that was possible in that situation, unfortunately for him, Jordan had the strength and length to best his effort. Which is why I'm increasingly becoming more and more convinced that this is one of the best in game dunks I have ever seen.
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            • ojandpizza
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 29806

              #51
              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
              I'm guessing if it was Steve Blake, you would've dunked on him with no problem though, right?
              Haha I would have tried my hardest...

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              • ojandpizza
                Hall Of Fame
                • Apr 2011
                • 29806

                #52
                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                I'd rather be going at someone. There's a lot more that I can control...

                Catching the ball, your fair game....even if the guy is smaller than you, that all evens our in the air...
                I think I've just been fouled, and undercut so many times from guys not wanting to be dunked on that I hate going right at the guy.

                When they don't see it coming, off a lob or rebound, those hard hits and fouls rarely happen. I would probably say 4 or 5 of the best dunks I've ever done were off an oop or rebound.

                I think with all the small injuries and hard falls I've taken I just respect the guys who take it right at a player and just rise over them.

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                • KG
                  Welcome Back
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 17583

                  #53
                  Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                  Knight was in no-mans land. His rotation was right, anticipation also pretty good but just got out-leaped considering that it was so quick he couldn't have gotten to the spot outside the circle in-time. In hindsight it would have definitely prevented the dunk had he tried to take the charge because I don't think Jordan saw him rotate. His eyes were on the lob and it didn't appear that he checked to see where the help was coming from. I think most players would know that help is coming from the side too. Like wwharton said, he probably would have side-checked him upending him.

                  I think it's a great dunk, MUCH better than Jamal's between-the-legs lob to BG, but there is something about both players knowing there will be contact and the offensive guy just throwing it down on them. The stare down and anticipation gets it for me.
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                  • LoSoisNiCEx414
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1162

                    #54
                    Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                    I think H.Barnes over Pek is the dunk over the yr imo, full extension on a taller 7ft C.

                    DJ over Knight was good, but when knight jumped, he tried to steal the pass, or knock it away, im not even sure Knight new DJ was coming & thats why the hard fall.

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                    • wwharton
                      *ll St*r
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 26949

                      #55
                      Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      Youre clearly saying Knight should have conceded the lob dunk and got out of the way.

                      Knight did the right thing by trying to break up the play and certainly should not have gotten out of the way.

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                      First, I'm going to acknowledge how stupid of a side track this is you want to keep going on. But I like to argue stupid stuff just like you so I'll continue with it...

                      I'm sorry I wasn't more obvious that I was being an over the top extremist in my response. I thought saying "Being extra technical" was enough for people to get that. But I'll try to say this yet another way since the first two or three weren't clear enough. My somewhat sarcastic response was to the idea that Knight did the best he could do to stop the play. The fact is the shot was made AND Jordan got fouled. Based on that result THAT WE ALREADY KNOW it would've been better for him to move out of the way... defensively, giving up 2 points is better than 2 with the chance for 3.

                      It was a stupid play on a technicality that you won't let go. I've said many of times I like that Knight challenged him and that no one would've expected Jordan to make that shot from there. So I really don't know what you're arguing against.

                      Originally posted by jfsolo
                      To me the problem with Knight's attempted contest of the lob was that he ran parallel to the basket and then jumped in the air after Jordan had gotten a head of steam. If he had ran right at Jordan and jumped from about a foot away from Jordan's body he stops the dunk for sure and just gets called for the foul. Knowing Deandre, without the hype of the made dunk, he probably misses both free throws.
                      In my serious reply, this is kind of what I was getting at. The only difference is I think he should've stood his ground rather than jumping. It would've likely been a foul either way, but at least there's a chance for a charge if he stands his ground.

                      That's neither here nor there though. The important part is he was too far under the basket and should've stepped up if he was going to commit to challenging the play. Hard to describe so I'll just say he should've done what Battier would've done (hopefully that paints a clearer picture).

                      With that said (to try to avoid any confusion), as someone mentioned earlier, I don't think Knight realized all that was going on until it was too late. He probably was jumping to defend the pass more than contest the shot.

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                      • ex carrabba fan
                        I'll thank him for you
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #56
                        Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                        Well, yes, giving up 3 points is technically worse than giving up 2.

                        As long as you're not saying that Knight should have gotten out of the way, as you initially said, then I don't disagree with whatever you're saying. My point is that Knight did exactly what he should have done, regardless of how he went about doing it. Contesting the play was the right decision even though he was caught out of position to begin with.

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                        • wwharton
                          *ll St*r
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 26949

                          #57
                          Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                          Well, yes, giving up 3 points is technically worse than giving up 2.

                          As long as you're not saying that Knight should have gotten out of the way, as you initially said, then I don't disagree with whatever you're saying. My point is that Knight did exactly what he should have done, regardless of how he went about doing it. Contesting the play was the right decision even though he was caught out of position to begin with.
                          LMAO, why? Why are you still going then? It was bad schtick.

                          Guy: "Poor guy did everything he could to stop that."

                          Other guy: "Not really since he didn't stop it."

                          **Cue in laugh track**

                          I can't make that any clearer. Are you just trying to get the last word?

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #58
                            Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                            Originally posted by wwharton
                            LMAO, why? Why are you still going then? It was bad schtick.

                            Guy: "Poor guy did everything he could to stop that."

                            Other guy: "Not really since he didn't stop it."

                            **Cue in laugh track**

                            I can't make that any clearer. Are you just trying to get the last word?
                            What's your problem brother? No, I'm not trying to get the last word. I'm trying to explain to you where I'm coming from since you asked me what the argument was. I think something got lost in translation honestly

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                            • bullsfan87
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 14

                              #59
                              Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                              Come on where is Michael Jordan's dunk on 7'0 Patrick Ewing, Scottie Pippen's dunk on Patrick Ewing and last but not least Vince Carter olympic dunk on 7'2 Weiss.
                              I loved Deandre dunk but he's 6'11 dunking on 6'3 guard and not to mention has about 40 pounds on duke.............................................. .................................................. ...................I can't keep a straight face it was a dunk of death though lol.

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                              • bullsfan87
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 14

                                #60
                                Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                                Man Knight can't catch a break this year.


                                First the crossover from Kyrie, World Peace showing that peace and love and now the dunk of death. Dang Knight.

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