Dwyane Wade actually better than Kobe ?

[Vni]

Re: Dwyane Wade actually better than Kobe ?

Also there have been days where Wade was better than Kobe especially in games when they've played against each other especially on the Xmas of 2006 where Kobe scored 16 points on 4/17 shooting and Wade scored 40 on 12/20 shooting so on that DAY Wade was better

Damn that's relevant.

[ClutchCity]

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statistically, kobe was a MUCH better defender than kobe.

im not even sure there is a discussion here.

lets not forget wade is completely immature, you dont see kobe going around asking to be called by his # of rings

Lol in what aspect on defense you cant measure defense statistically when your looking at a peremiter player. When I watch Wade you can clearly see that some of defense, is basically his offense. Playing the passing lanes and taking off 2 quick easy points. Ive seen him do it so many times. I cant reallh say the same for Kobe.

[TajDeni]

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well first off if you want to play the hypothetical game, there's no telling how Kobe would of been in college, for all we know had he gone to duke he could've had a livingston type of injured and never become anything in the NBA. Kobe will be remembered by some, and will also be forgotten just as quick by some as well. Kobe has 5 championships and he's not in my top 10 and I know others who share my opinion. Also there have been days where Wade was better than Kobe especially in games when they've played against each other especially on the Xmas of 2006 where Kobe scored 16 points on 4/17 shooting and Wade scored 40 on 12/20 shooting so on that DAY Wade was better

i can only ever remember 1x your kobe posts that have let me down kash; you never cease to amaze.

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also wanted to throw this into the mix, not to change the topic but to illustrate a point that it is distance that creates this illusion.

it was not that long ago, when a fair number of ppl were arguing that dwyane wade was better than lebron. and from a distance that arguement appeared to have merits.

it was only until they both got on the same team and we got to see their respective games side by side on a nightly basis that it became clearer that wades game was never on the level of lebron's.

same rules apply here with kobe. it is distance that has created this illusion that wades game was ever on kobe's level, esp skill-level wise.

to drive it home further, it is distance that creates the illusion that a man can cover the moon with his hand and its distance that has falsely created this thread.

[Kashanova]

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Damn that's relevant.

I was only following Taj's key points

i can only ever remember 1x your kobe posts that have let me down kash; you never cease to amaze.

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also wanted to throw this into the mix, not to change the topic but to illustrate a point that it is distance that creates this illusion.

it was not that long ago, when a fair number of ppl were arguing that dwyane wade was better than lebron. and from a distance that arguement appeared to have merits.

it was only until they both got on the same team and we got to see their respective games side by side on a nightly basis that it became clearer that wades game was never on the level of lebron's.

same rules apply here with kobe. it is distance that has created this illusion that wades game was ever on kobe's level, esp skill-level wise.

to drive it home further, it is distance that creates the illusion that a man can cover the moon with his hand and its distance that has falsely created this thread.

I was just countering your points. Also I disagree with this. It's been a long time since Michael Jordan's Prime and that distance is greater than this Kobe distance you speak of, yet MJ is still undoubtedly recognized for his skills

[UWfan206]

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The Hypocrisy of OS....So it's okay to do a D-Wade/Kobe thread but you can't make a Lebron/Kobe or Kobe/MJ thread without mods closing it...?

[TajDeni]

Re: Dwyane Wade actually better than Kobe ?

I was only following Taj's key points



I was just countering your points. Also I disagree with this. It's been a long time since Michael Jordan's Prime and that distance is greater than this Kobe distance you speak of, yet MJ is still undoubtedly recognized for his skills

i only meant that if we could put kobe and wade on the same team together that in my opnion the closeness of seeing there games on a nightly basis would settle this debate. and i believe in kobes favor.

[Melbournelad]

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As i have said in my pm's to kash (where he doesn't take a single point on board), Wade's great FG% advantage over Kobe is an illusion because he is such a bad 3pt shooter. Take this past season for example. Wade shot 52.1% (1st for SG's). Kobe shot 46.3% (3rd for SG's). This makes it appear that Wade's efficiency was much greater than Kobe's. This is actually not true at all. Wade had a true shooting percentage of 57.1 and Kobe 57.0. Their Point Per Shot rating was also exactly the same. So this negates Wade's only real advantage this season apart from offensive rebounding.

I haven't checked any other seasons but i expect their real shooting percentages will again be much closer than their FG%.

[DukeC]

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The Hypocrisy of OS....So it's okay to do a D-Wade/Kobe thread but you can't make a Lebron/Kobe or Kobe/MJ thread without mods closing it...?

Because the Jordan comparisons have been done to death already and it NEVER ends well because someone always catches feelings and gets the thread locked.

You can engage in a Lebron vs Kobe debate...in Lebron's thread.

[BringTheHeat]

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1. Jordan



2. Kobe
3. Wade

All time. And that's probably how it'll stay until some new guy comes along.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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1. UWFan does have a point.

2. Gotta give props for Wizzleman surviving this long on here.

[DukeC]

Re: Dwyane Wade actually better than Kobe ?

1. UWFan does have a point.

2. Gotta give props for Wizzleman surviving this long on here.

He has been keeping a low profile tho

[The 24th Letter]

The Hypocrisy of OS....So it's okay to do a D-Wade/Kobe thread but you can't make a Lebron/Kobe or Kobe/MJ thread without mods closing it...?

If the MJ/Kobe/LeBron topic hadn't been done 50x times already (as a matter if fact, it was just going on in the LBJ thread) then i'm sure those threads would keep their life.

I think a player comparison sub forum/thread should be created...lets face it, player comparisons are inevitable in the NBA..just the nature of the sport...that's why I think the whole "OMG another comparison" schtick is old. It's going to happen, and if done properly, can be a good discussion...

[OSUFan_88]

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[jvalverde88]

[I am disappointed]

Re: Dwyane Wade actually better than Kobe ?

as far as comparing there 1st couple yrs in the league.

- kobe is 17yrs old fresh out of high school kid. while wade spent atleast 2 full season in college developing and maturing. the results being that wade was more prepared physically and emotionally to play with grown men in the nba.

- also even with the 2yrs of college experience, there is absolutely no way wade plays ahead of that version of eddie jones.

- if kobe had spent the exact same amount of time in college developing under coach k as wade did at marquette, he would have had imo a better 1st 2yrs.

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i think that its safe to say that by "most" ppls standards kobe is one of the 10 greatest players ever.

yet not 1 person on this board would even considers wade for a top 10 all-time slot.

kobe is a living legend, who will be remembered forever.

wade even with 3 championships unders his belt as a superstar level player, not so much.

just let that sink in for a second; wade has 3 championships and yet nobody ever talks about him as 1 of the top 10 players ever.

imo, on no day was wade ever as good as kobe.

I beg to differ.

The only slight I could even really give to Kobe is his shooting and his post game but other than that I think D Wade is overall better than him.

Him having more rings just doesn't automatically put him over either.

I also believe Wade is a better "Team" player than Kobe easily, he score just as much as Kobe and still get all of his teammates involved

If anything Wade is more comparable to Lebron than Kobe, Lebron is just more of a passer than Wade and obviously more physically gifted but other than that their very similar

I'd take Wade in his prime over anybody, he was just a flat out killer.