2013-14 Transactions Thread

[OSUFan_88]

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I just don't see Deng resigning with Cleveland and if he does they will be drastically overpaying him at this point in his career..

Who the **** else are the Cavaliers going to sign that is even close to Deng's talent level?

If you say LeBron, I'm gonna have to slap you upside your head.

The Cavaliers are willing to go into lux tax. That's not a problem. Their next big piece is likely going to come through trade where they still have half a dozen really good pieces to trade.

What they should do is sign Deng then use the rest of their pieces to try and pry Kevin Love out of Minnesota.

Edit: forgot to mention, Deng's agent is the same agent for Big Z and I believe Chris Grant. If Deng likes playing in Cleveland, and seeing as how he's going to be served the ball up on a silver plate, an extension can get done.

[phenom1990]

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I'm not sure I get the whole "Bynum to Miami" thing. You already have one player who you can't rely on to contribute much for your team so why bring in another guy you're not going to be able to rely on, who has the same exact issues as the other one(Health)?

That one actually had 2 games of 20 and 10 this season. It's not phenomenal by any stretch but if Greg Oden ever put up that stat line in a game... that game would basically be his NBA highlight tape.

Edit:

The biggest issue with Bynum going forward isn't his health, it's his attitude. I can't imagine anyone is willing to do a long term commitment to him anymore. So the risk is minimal in that regard because who is really going to depend on him at this point. If you can just get 15 to 20 minutes in the playoffs as a backup big, I would be pretty happy with that.

[skywalkah]

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Pax said today that Mirotic might still be a year out. Never say never, but I wouldn't expect a trade involving Melo. NY has to bank on him returning and I think it comes down to how the season finishes for him.

[turty11]

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bucks agressively trying to trade gary neal.

guess calling out larry sanders isnt allowed

[HumanBeans]

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bucks agressively trying to trade gary neal.

guess calling out larry sanders isnt allowed

But when Larry called out Monta and B-Jeneration X after the playoffs the Bucks rewarded him with an extension. Go figure. I think John Hammond is in love with Larry Sanders.

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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But when Larry called out Monta and B-Jeneration X after the playoffs the Bucks rewarded him with an extension. Go figure. I think John Hammond is in love with Larry Sanders.

They deserved to be called out.

And I don't think trading Neal has anything to do with him saying anything about Larry. I think it's just the fact that he's been horrific for Milwaukee and they don't want to have to hang on to him any longer and he's the kinda guy that a contending team might be willing to trade a 2nd round pick for or something like that.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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That one actually had 2 games of 20 and 10 this season. It's not phenomenal by any stretch but if Greg Oden ever put up that stat line in a game... that game would basically be his NBA highlight tape.

Edit:

The biggest issue with Bynum going forward isn't his health, it's his attitude. I can't imagine anyone is willing to do a long term commitment to him anymore. So the risk is minimal in that regard because who is really going to depend on him at this point. If you can just get 15 to 20 minutes in the playoffs as a backup big, I would be pretty happy with that.

Health is always going to be a problem with Bynum. When you have two shot knees basically and are experiencing some type of pain/soreness every time you step on the court, even in limited minutes, it's not going to get any better going forward as we've seen from him.

Hell, even trying to get 15-20 mins is a struggle. At this point in his career, he's just coasting since he doesn't seem to give a damn anymore, otherwise he'd still be a Cav right now.

[Dice]

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Health is always going to be a problem with Bynum. When you have two shot knees basically and are experiencing some type of pain/soreness every time you step on the court, even in limited minutes, it's not going to get any better going forward as we've seen from him.

Hell, even trying to get 15-20 mins is a struggle. At this point in his career, he's just coasting since he doesn't seem to give a damn anymore, otherwise he'd still be a Cav right now.

Heck, Bynum probably still be a Laker right now if he gave a damn and Howard would have had a different path to Houston instead of his year stint with the Lakers.

[turty11]

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stephen a smith almost smacked skip bayless lol.....skipy said KD isnt one of the greatest in the nba right now

[phenom1990]

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Health is always going to be a problem with Bynum. When you have two shot knees basically and are experiencing some type of pain/soreness every time you step on the court, even in limited minutes, it's not going to get any better going forward as we've seen from him.

Hell, even trying to get 15-20 mins is a struggle. At this point in his career, he's just coasting since he doesn't seem to give a damn anymore, otherwise he'd still be a Cav right now.

I think he is only worth taking a look at if your team can win a title this year. At this point in the season, the risk is really his attitude because he is only going to be signed for the vet's minimum. Therefore, I don't think his long term health with his knees is that big of an issue. I would just try and get him in shape for the playoffs to play 10 to 20 minutes a game especially since there are no back to backs in the playoffs. He played in 24 games this season, which I'm assuming before the suspension was about 75% of the games and he only played less than 10 minutes once.

I don't think he is going to play that much longer in the NBA anyway. At this point I kinda view him like a 35 year old vet, who wants to make one last run at something. Worst thing you do is sign him to a vet minimum contract and release him. I just don't view him as a big risk excluding attitude issues because what contender would rely on him for big minutes and it's not like the free agent big men list is that great anyway

[The 24th Letter]

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stephen a smith almost smacked skip bayless lol.....skipy said KD isnt one of the greatest in the nba right now

I can't really stomach First Take enough to watch it anyway, but Tebows irrelevance & LeBron winning titles back to back was the worst thing to ever happen to that show....Skip has no material now

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I would just try and get him in shape for the playoffs to play 10 to 20 minutes a game especially since there are no back to backs in the playoffs.

Isn't that what Cleveland tried to do when they signed him? Limit his minutes and just ease him back in and yet he would still have issues with his knees? At this point with him, if you can get 10-20 effective minutes out of him, it'd be a miracle.

I just don't view him as a big risk excluding attitude issues because what contender would rely on him for big minutes and it's not like the free agent big men list is that great anyway

It's also not like any of the contending teams(which there's only 4 of them at this point)have a need for him right now. But I can't see Miami taking a flyer on a similar player with similar issues that they already have on the roster, at least not without seeing what Oden can contribute for them first.

[roadman]

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I'm hearing Neal is a cancer in the locker room, can't even get along with Giannis. Terrible assist to TO ratio.

Trade him and cut our loses.

[phenom1990]

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Isn't that what Cleveland tried to do when they signed him? Limit his minutes and just ease him back in and yet he would still have issues with his knees? At this point with him, if you can get 10-20 effective minutes out of him, it'd be a miracle.


It's also not like any of the contending teams(which there's only 4 of them at this point)have a need for him right now. But I can't see Miami taking a flyer on a similar player with similar issues that they already have on the roster, at least not without seeing what Oden can contribute for them first.

Cleveland sporadically got good games out of him this year, statistically. So there is some hope in my eyes. The difference between Cleveland signing him and someone else trying to is that Cleveland was trying to make the leap from bad team to good team whereas any team I think he should sign with is already a good team. Therefore if he doesn't work out, the already good team can just cut him; move on and still be a good team.

It backfired on Cleveland because their 1st round pick hasn't been good, their big offseason signing hasn't been great (Jarrett Jack), their starting small forwards have been bad and it doesn't seem like Waiters and Irving get along. So they needed him to be good to help hide their issues.

An OKC, San Antonio, Miami, etc. don't have that same type of issue. So I think he is worth the risk if he can provide something they may not have in a small role, a big that can score in the paint. If Miami doesn't want to take a flyer on him because they already like their team and took one on Oden, that's fine. Miami won championships without my advice and will probably continue to do so anyway lol. I just defended Bynum because unlike Oden, he has actually played this year.

[turty11]

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bynum just wants his money. whichever "contender" throws him the most is where he is going..i bet hed love to be oden right now