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  • Kashanova
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2003
    • 12695

    #16
    Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by jeebs9
    why would the Hornets give up Ryan Anderson after they just had their biggest output on offense this season. Come on guys that doesn't make any sense.

    What's wrong with the Knicks smh?.... I don't know what to say anymore.
    Bad Defense and Mike Woodson. Knicks look like the Hawks from a few years ago. ISO City.....

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    • Caveman24
      MVP
      • Jul 2011
      • 1350

      #17
      Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

      Anyway Steph Curry won't play Friday? Really don't have time watch us abuse our defense.
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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
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        #18
        Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

        How much is Mike Woodson really to blame though?
        #RespectTheCulture

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        • ex carrabba fan
          I'll thank him for you
          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #19
          Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
          How much is Mike Woodson really to blame though?
          They just don't have the players. Woodson actually helped them last season look like a decent defensive team


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          • 702
            Rookie
            • Aug 2005
            • 1165

            #20
            Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

            You would think Tyson Chandler would get the respect he deserves. This team is always worse when he doesn't play, that's what is going on. People don't seem to want to just say that. It always turns into some bigger discussion about the offense, or Woodson, or Melo, or JR.

            This is a bad defensive team missing the key to their defense being passable. Whether it's him missing time or just playing at 70% it's been proven over and over.

            Provided he comes back healthy, they'll play better, and this overblown junk will pass. They're the 4th/5th best team in the east, just as most people predicted. Nothing has changed.

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            • Kashanova
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              • Aug 2003
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              #21
              Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
              How much is Mike Woodson really to blame though?
              A lot of it in my opinion. The offense is an iso fest. I blame that on the coach. Defensively they look lost a lot of that is personnel but the offense looking stagnant I blame on the coach. It's similar to what Averah and PJ were running with the Nets.

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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #22
                Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

                Yeah they're still 4th/5th seed but we were all hoping to see them step up and become legit competition for the Pacers and Bulls. I think right now they're a far cry from that. Being 4th or 5th in the east really doesn't say much, and the Knicks are living proof of that right now.

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                • Majingir
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 47433

                  #23
                  Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

                  I know it's still early,but this is the saddest thing ever:



                  PHILADELPHIA - Despite a slow start to the season, the Raptors (4-7) can overtake the surprising 76ers (5-7) in the standings and claim sole possession of first place in the Atlantic when the division rivals meet on Wednesday.

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                  • King_B_Mack
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 24450

                    #24
                    Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by NYJets


                    No words.
                    LOL what the hell is happening here? If I didn't know better I'd swear that was a video game.

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                    • 702
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 1165

                      #25
                      Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      Yeah they're still 4th/5th seed but we were all hoping to see them step up and become legit competition for the Pacers and Bulls. I think right now they're a far cry from that. Being 4th or 5th in the east really doesn't say much, and the Knicks are living proof of that right now.

                      Not sure how anyone impartial could of thought the Knicks would be as good as Chicago or Indiana. There's always the chance, however small, that Melo and JR go crazy and they steal a series, but they're just not as good of a team as the top 3. So I don't see what's changed.

                      My main thing is that I feel like they're still the same team they were thought to be, they're just missing one of their two most important players. It seems they get jumped on really quickly at the slightest chance. They're no worse of a team today than they were at the beginning of the season but there's articles and talk of them like they aren't living up to expectations by some drastic measure. Like they were supposed to be the best team in the east and now everyone is disappointed because they're not on that level. Yet no one really thought they would be, so where's all the panic and gloom coming from.

                      For a comparable team, let's say if Marc Gasol went out and the Grizzles slipped (which they actually did anyway starting out, but that's not relevant) people would calmly say "they're a different team with and without Gasol, wait until he returns". But with the Knicks, it turns into a much deeper look at them and all their flaws. As if Chandler never existed and will never return and we all falsely had them as a top 5 team in the league and we're fooled somehow. They are who we thought they were.

                      Longwinded write up of a minor thing, but had a hard time explaining myself haha.

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                      • ex carrabba fan
                        I'll thank him for you
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #26
                        Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

                        Ahh I see where you're coming from. So basically you're already in the camp that didn't expect much from them. For some reason I personally thought they had a decent chance I don't even have any reasons for that either.


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                        • ehh
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 28959

                          #27
                          Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                          LOL what the hell is happening here? If I didn't know better I'd swear that was a video game.
                          It's funny to watch, but he thought Josh Smith was shooting and turned to ball watch, I mean "box out", before failing to get another rebound.

                          Smith did the old pass-out-of-a-shot and as usual Amare's stellar awareness came shining through.
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                          • ehh
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2003
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                            #28
                            Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                            How much is Mike Woodson really to blame though?
                            A lot, though just about any coach would be helpless and hopeless with this roster. But for starters:

                            1) Stop switching on D.
                            2) Stop settling for a million mid-range jumpers.
                            3) Somehow get guys to rotate/help like they actually care.
                            "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
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                              #29
                              Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by 702
                              Not sure how anyone impartial could of thought the Knicks would be as good as Chicago or Indiana. There's always the chance, however small, that Melo and JR go crazy and they steal a series, but they're just not as good of a team as the top 3. So I don't see what's changed.
                              The lack of leadership this year is so damn apparent too. Never thought the loss of Kidd, Sheed and Kurt Thomas would have such a big impact. In the NBA only so much leadership can come from your staff, most of it has to come from your players. The Knicks have absolutely none at the moment and when Melo's your best player you can count on that not changing any time soon.
                              "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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                              • ProfessaPackMan
                                Bamma
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #30
                                Re: 11/19 - 11/25 Games Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Majingir
                                I know it's still early,but this is the saddest thing ever:

                                http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=437071
                                Which is why people don't need to put too much stock into standings in the first 2 months of the season.
                                #RespectTheCulture

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