Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

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  • tril
    MVP
    • Nov 2004
    • 2912

    #106
    Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

    Originally posted by Melbournelad
    Huh? No the Lakers can pursue him all they want. What I'm telling you is there is no way the Suns wouldn't match. Put yourself in the Suns GM's shoes, would you?
    understood!!!

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    • DamnYanks2
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2007
      • 20794

      #107
      Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

      Can you imagine where the Lakers might be if Stern didn't kick the Lakers front office in the nuts and nix that Paul trade. Paul makes everything and everyone better. LA would be in good shape, and their likely wouldn't be any tension with Kobe.

      On Melo, hell no. Melo just does not make teams better, I've seen enough. He literally brings his team down. A phenomenal scorer and talent. Sadly that's all he'll ever be.

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      • ClutchCity
        Pro
        • Dec 2008
        • 630

        #108
        Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

        Melo will be in Los Angeles wearing a Laker uniform next season. I don't doubt it. Carmelo's options are futile. Think about it for a minute. Melo doesn't have a chance to win against Indiana or Miami down the line for the next few years. Last year id say was his best chance to at least show up in the ECF and it didn't happen.Teams like those 2 only get better. I mean look at how this year is playing out, 3 wins so far lol. I mean I know its early, and im not counting them out to make the playoffs just yet, but from what I see its obvious the Knicks aren't as good as last year's. Or the year before last.

        Now im sure at this point Melo wants to make a title run and what other team not to do it with than the Lakers? Just Sayin...
        Last edited by ClutchCity; 12-03-2013, 12:13 AM.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #109
          Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

          I don't see Melo leaving NY at all. Don't really see why he would give up everything he has there.

          And it's not like his chances of winning a title will increase much by going out West, especially looking at some of those teams out there as is.
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • ClutchCity
            Pro
            • Dec 2008
            • 630

            #110
            Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            I don't see Melo leaving NY at all. Don't really see why he would give up everything he has there.

            And it's not like his chances of winning a title will increase much by going out West, especially looking at some of those teams out there as is.

            What has Melo gained in NY a scoring title ? I agree with your second half of the statement a little. I don't think his chances will increase either, I just think he would have a better shot. Especially if Kobe comes back playing at the same rate before he was hurt. I think his time in NY is up after this year the progress on that team is declining.

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            • MarvinOida
              MVP
              • Feb 2012
              • 4859

              #111
              Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

              Even though I don't like the Lakers, if they really are considering MELO, then I believe that they will not get a championship. Melo & Kobe don't feel right to me. We've learned over the past couple years that team basketball is still superior over superior scoring.

              The Lakers are going to be a mess if they bring in Melo, who I believe isn't going to mesh correctly with their system.


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              • ClutchCity
                Pro
                • Dec 2008
                • 630

                #112
                Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

                Originally posted by MarvinOida
                Even though I don't like the Lakers, if they really are considering MELO, then I believe that they will not get a championship. Melo & Kobe don't feel right to me. We've learned over the past couple years that team basketball is still superior over superior scoring.

                The Lakers are going to be a mess if they bring in Melo, who I believe isn't going to mesh correctly with their system.


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                Melo would be fine. I think the system would adapt or transition to Melo and Kobe's tendencies offensively. I think that Lakers would have to add another scrappy big who could give them second chances. Its not a matter of superior scoring it's really all about putting pieces around these 2 that could make them into a superior team. I honestly would just get rid of Gasol and sign a guy like Varejo or a Larry Sanders. Jordan Hill is exactly the perfect player for a sytem based of those 2 superstar.

                Its funny because no one knew how Lebron,Wade, and Bosh would even work on offense, and look at them now. 2 championships. Prior to that Wade was the scoring champ, and Bosh was avg at least 20 and 10 in Toronto.

                Its simple if your playing a pickup game outside your going to pick the best player's. And the player is going to want to be on the team with the best player's. If im Melo im tanking. Instead of leaving my legacy in NY and possibly not winning a ring at all, im going to go and play on a team with the best SG this past decade. He's got nothing more to prove in NY. STAT is no longer standing tall, JR Smith is ridiculously a fluke comes big games, and you don't have a PG or anyone who can really distribute the ball to you for easy points. I say the system he's in now is ridiculous and would do a lot better in Danphonies.

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                • JazzMan
                  SOLDIER, First Class...
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 13547

                  #113
                  Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

                  You can't just throw two superstars together and call it good.

                  What makes Miami work is that D-Wade's accepted the sidekick role. LeBron is an all-around facilitator while D-Wade is a slasher and a scorer. Both are great defenders.

                  Kobe and Melo are average defenders and are both scorers. Their egos won't let them be a sidekick to the other. It'd just be both guys going out there jacking up 25 shots a game each.
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                  • ClutchCity
                    Pro
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 630

                    #114
                    Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

                    Originally posted by JazzMan
                    You can't just throw two superstars together and call it good.

                    What makes Miami work is that D-Wade's accepted the sidekick role. LeBron is an all-around facilitator while D-Wade is a slasher and a scorer. Both are great defenders.

                    Kobe and Melo are average defenders and are both scorers. Their egos won't let them be a sidekick to the other. It'd just be both guys going out there jacking up 25 shots a game each.
                    How would you know that both players are going to jack 25 shots a night? How would you know that one of them wouldn't become humble of the other. Nobody knows, Melo situation in NY is overdue It's a fact that he isn't getting any younger and he's in his prime. Nothing is going to come out of Melo being in NY anymore, last year was his chance.And yes you can throw 2 superstars together and make a playoff run. It's happenend plenty of times. Its just a bunch of other formulas that come into play for a team to win a championship. Melo and Kobe would do fine.

                    In fact Kobe has said that Melo is his guy and they were close when they played on team USA. I don't see why people don't want to see Melo in a Laker uniform. I like the Lakers without Dwight, but they're just not going to be championship caliber without another superstar on that team.
                    Last edited by ClutchCity; 12-03-2013, 12:09 PM.

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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #115
                      Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

                      Originally posted by ClutchCity
                      What has Melo gained in NY a scoring title ? I agree with your second half of the statement a little. I don't think his chances will increase either, I just think he would have a better shot. Especially if Kobe comes back playing at the same rate before he was hurt. I think his time in NY is up after this year the progress on that team is declining.
                      1. Money, especially the amount we're talking about.
                      2. He's already tight with the Owner meaning he can basically choose his next coach there.(If you're a player, why give those 2 up?)
                      3. Why would he go play for the same Coach he got fired and play in the same system that he openly fussed about?

                      I look at it like this: if Melo really wanted a title THAT bad(maybe he does, I don't know)he would've made the sacrifices that he needed to make to get a title long ago.

                      LA will shown interest(they'll be dumb NOT to)but in the end, I think he stays in NY.
                      #RespectTheCulture

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                      • MarvinOida
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 4859

                        #116
                        Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

                        Theoretically, how would they build the bench if they get Melo? More old players? Or cheap assets? If we're playing future, then what happens if one of them go down? How long would Melo stay with LA?

                        I think they would be in a Hole with Melo because unlike Miami, the pairing superstar was still in his prime and was willing, Kobe is 35 and is becoming older. And the bench was built off minimum vets, which is fine with LeBron and Wade under 30 at the time.

                        Best case scenario if they get Melo is that it becomes Melo and Allen Iverson 2.0 w/ a better supporting cast.


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                        Last edited by MarvinOida; 12-03-2013, 02:27 PM.

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                        • EvilVendingMachine
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 10

                          #117
                          Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

                          This lineup is reasonably the best the Lakers can hope for:
                          Lowry/blake
                          bryant/young/
                          Anthony/young
                          Gasol/Anthony/hill
                          Tyson Chandler/Hill/sacre

                          This mainly depends on the Lakers swapping Nash and their upcoming 1st rounder for lowry before the deadline(a stretch, but toronto was willing to give Nash a big contract last offseason). They then have only Kobe (23.5M), Nick young(player option 1.2M), and robert sacre(because why the **** not)at .9M. enough to offer Anthony the max(21.7M i believe) and barely absorb Chandlers 14.6M. Chandler at least makes up for obvious deficiencies defensively, but we're still not a championship team, even if we replace dantoni.

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                          • Majingir
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2005
                            • 47448

                            #118
                            Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

                            Unless the Lakers are willing to take on like half of Nashs salary(next year), don't see Raptors wanting Nashs 9M contract at this point. This season it won't be bad, but next year the Raptors might want to do something bigger.

                            I wouldn't mind getting 2014 1st round pick from Lakers though. Who knows, Raptors draft a PG, let Nash mentor him for a year, and see what happens from there.

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                            • JazzMan
                              SOLDIER, First Class...
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 13547

                              #119
                              Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

                              Realistically, I could see LA targeting a guy like Gordon Hayward in the offseason. Would it absolutely kill me to see him in a Laker uniform? Yes. But it's possible.
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                              • EvilVendingMachine
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                                • Jan 2012
                                • 10

                                #120
                                Re: Sound off: Who Should LA Surround Kobe With the Next Two Years?

                                Originally posted by Majingir
                                Unless the Lakers are willing to take on like half of Nashs salary(next year), don't see Raptors wanting Nashs 9M contract at this point. This season it won't be bad, but next year the Raptors might want to do something bigger.

                                I wouldn't mind getting 2014 1st round pick from Lakers though. Who knows, Raptors draft a PG, let Nash mentor him for a year, and see what happens from there.
                                Toronto might make us take Fields back, which would be a deal breaker, probably.
                                Originally posted by JazzMan
                                Realistically, I could see LA targeting a guy like Gordon Hayward in the offseason. Would it absolutely kill me to see him in a Laker uniform? Yes. But it's possible.
                                He's a RFA, i doubt the jazz let him walk.

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