The New Rash of Serious Injuries

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  • AlexBrady
    MVP
    • Jul 2008
    • 3341

    #16
    Re: The New Rash of Serious Injuries

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    Not compared to 80's-90's but the older school stuff, too me, doesn't look that physical at all.. I can't knowledgeably speak on it because I'm obviously not old enough to have grown up watching it..

    But every time I see one of those old classic games guys over play defensively on the perimeter, which allows the slightest crossover or hesitation to beat them off the dribble without and hand checks, bumps, nudges, or anything to try and stop the guy, just hands up at all times.. And in the post I never see hands touching a player, just straight up no arm bars, nothing..

    It's almost as if they were trying so hard to play with the correct defensive form and stance that it compromised their ability to play defense.. Go find an old game on YouTube or better NBAtv, or find a Jerry West or Wilt highlight or something.. There's hardly ever any contact, and even when you see a tiny amount of it a foul is called.

    Again I can't say for sure because I have a small sample size, but if I had to guess I would say it's a lot like the palming violation situation.. Everyone says players rarely used crossovers and other moves because palming violations were so strict.. My guess is that they avoided contact because foul calls were so strict as well.. You always see straight up "fundamental" dribbling, same goes with defense, arms out "fundamental" defensive stance at all times even if they are getting their *** beat off the dribble every trip up the court or abused in the post.

    Lots of funnel zone in the days of the dreadnaught bigs. Russell, Nate, and Wilt.


    Definitely better defensive stances back then. Back straight, knees bent, and one arm shadowing the ball. You don't play post defense with your hands and arms. You play it with your legs, hips, and shoulders. And you do your post up work BEFORE your man catches the entry pass.








    Originally posted by DJ_Solis
    Well that's still more of running up and down the court isn't it? Still getting more run in back then. I Agree about the physicality though. I've seen a bunch of Rick Barry clips and seen very little contact and some very light fouls. I also can't say for sure but that's the way it seemed.


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    Clips. I suggest you watch a complete ballgame.




    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
    It's not so much about running up and down court. Most of the non contact injuries come from cutting, planting etc.....and there is undoubtedly more of that in today's game than in the past...
    No there isn't. Quick, one-footed changes of direction have been in the game since the very beginning.

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    • The 24th Letter
      ERA
      • Oct 2007
      • 39373

      #17
      Re: The New Rash of Serious Injuries

      Originally posted by AlexBrady
      No there isn't. Quick, one-footed changes of direction have been in the game since the very beginning.

      I notice you didn't post any Youtube footage of Jerry West euro stepping...

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      • DJ_Solis
        MVP
        • Jan 2014
        • 2216

        #18
        The New Rash of Serious Injuries

        Originally posted by AlexBrady

        Clips. I suggest you watch a complete ballgame.



        .

        I said I can't say for sure lol. Thanks for the link tho. I didn't know they had full games on YouTube with decent quality.


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        Last edited by DJ_Solis; 03-23-2014, 05:22 PM.

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        • KG
          Welcome Back
          • Sep 2005
          • 17583

          #19
          Re: The New Rash of Serious Injuries

          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
          I notice you didn't post any Youtube footage of Jerry West euro stepping...
          hahaha. I think a lot of it is due to over-training which causes added stress on ligaments/tendons which wear down faster. It's definitely not the shoes. As someone who's way too invested into the technology I can safely say the attention to impact protection (i.e. zoom air, etc...) has increased dramatically lately.
          Last edited by KG; 03-24-2014, 08:57 AM.
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          • LingeringRegime
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2007
            • 17089

            #20
            Re: The New Rash of Serious Injuries

            Prolonged PED use is also in the realm of possibility.

            Probably a mix of everything everyone else has said.

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