2014 Off-Season Thread

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Deng is done in Chicago. Only way he ends up back here is if the Bulls miss out on Melo and Love. Even then it's not a guarantee because he's looking to get paid. If the Bulls land Melo and/or Love they won't have the money to sign Deng unless he plays for the minimum which I doubt.



As for the Bulls' bench, doesn't really matter all that much with that lineup. Miami's bench isn't really anything to write home about, but when you have players the caliber of LeBron James, Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade in your lineup playing 35+ minutes, you can afford to have less than stellar players making up a bench. Besides that, Tony Snell will fill Jimmy's defensive role once he's gone and I think Noah and Thibs could help Love and Melo's defensive efforts ton. Unlike Boozer, I think they're players that DO want to be better defensively.

I'm with you on that last part.. A lot of Melo's defensive issues is consistent effort.. He can play pretty good man defense when he wants to. He gets lost in a team defensive scheme but that's a lot easier to fix that just having a man defense liability, like Steve Nash or something..

I Love being a "bad" defender is a little overblown anyways.. I think he knows his limitations. He knows he isn't really long, or really athletic. He knows he isn't going to block a lot of shots or hedge out of super quick guards, or ever be quick enough to gamble on passing lanes.. I think he actually does a decent job of getting himself into position and at least challenging a shot. Knowing he isn't going to block the shot he just plays the miss, and 9 out of 10 times the rebound is his..

Playing on a better defensive unit like Chicago, with Noah, will keep more athletic guys from constantly attacking at him.. Which should make his defensive liabilities a lot less noticeable.


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[turty11]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Celtics fans love to overrate Rondo.

the same way non celtic fans like to say he cant shoot?

[redsrule]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

the same way non celtic fans like to say he cant shoot?

He can't. He's way too inconsistent. I still think he's a top 5 guard when healthy.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

I Love being a "bad" defender is a little overblown anyways.. I think he knows his limitations. He knows he isn't really long, or really athletic. He knows he isn't going to block a lot of shots or hedge out of super quick guards, or ever be quick enough to gamble on passing lanes.. I think he actually does a decent job of getting himself into position and at least challenging a shot. Knowing he isn't going to block the shot he just plays the miss, and 9 out of 10 times the rebound is his..

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So what about him being a bad defender is overblown?

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

So what about him being a bad defender is overblown?

I don't think he's bad. Bad defenders are never in the right position, don't know when players are cutting, can't get in help, poor defensive IQ, etc.. I don't think that's Love.

I think he's just limited athletically, and doesn't have intangibles like insanely long arms that most guys at his position do.. Therefor he isn't going to block a lot of shots, or things like I mentioned before..

I think he actually does a decent job of getting in position and putting himself in spots to challenge a shot. A lot of times it doesn't matter because guys know he can't block them even when he gets there, nobody is intimidated by his presence, but a lot of times he does just enough to force a miss which in return he almost always gets the rebound.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Gotcha OJ.

Also agree with your description in regards to Bad Defenders because I think that's a label that gets thrown around and attached to players too easily.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Gotcha OJ.

Also agree with your description in regards to Bad Defenders because I think that's a label that gets thrown around and attached to players too easily.

I would throw lazy in his description as well. Like Carlos Boozer. We can agree it's not thrown around easily with him right?


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Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Boozer was a hack before Chicago though lol

[BleacherBum2310]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Celtics fans love to overrate Rondo.

Celtic fans overrate Rondo, while Nationally he's underrated. He's somewhere in between imo.

Also last healthy Rondo was incredible from Midrange, I believe he was in the top of the league from there. He's not good at 3s but that's not a big deal.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Boozer was a hack before Chicago though lol

Oh yeah. I think he's gotten worse here though. I haven't seen a ton of him in Utah, but I don't remember him being this damn bad.

[turty11]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Celtic fans overrate Rondo, while Nationally he's underrated. He's somewhere in between imo.

Also last healthy Rondo was incredible from Midrange, I believe he was in the top of the league from there. He's not good at 3s but that's not a big deal.

he was the best shooting PG outside of 3's until near the end of the season parker edged him out i believe

[Caveman24]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Archie Goodwin, Morris Twins, #14 pick assuming we don't move up, and the Lakers pick next year.

I think that's fair.

[Caveman24]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

They don't have much of a choice. They're at the mercy of wherever Kevin Love wants to go. You either take what the team is willing to give or you lose him for nothing.

Very, very long shot scenario? Noah's recruiting convinces Melo to sign for about 14-15 million after using the amnesty on Boozer and shipping out Dunleavy, Bulls then trade Taj, Jimmy Butler, the rights to Mirotic and a pick or two for Love.

Your a Laker fan now?

[DJ_Solis]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Minny would be crazy if they don't trade Love for DLee. Lee has single handedly turned the Warriors into a 50 win team and could easily do the same to the Wolves.........*cough*


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[OkayC]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Minny would be crazy if they don't trade Love for DLee. Lee has single handedly turned the Warriors into a 50 win team and could easily do the same to the Wolves.........*cough*


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Singlehandedly? so does steph curry not exist or what?