Apparently the Mac/Francis deal is not quite a deal - Operation Sports Forums

Hey everyone, just wanted to let you all know OS now has an official Discord that you can join right now. We’ve kicked around Discords for individual games in the past, but it felt like the right time to make it more of an official thing.

Steve and I have wanted to get this going for a bit because we obviously still hear from y’all who are unhappy with some stuff on the forums, plus when there are forum outages we still want to have a place for everyone to hang. My overarching goal for the longer term is to have both Discord and the forums ultimately work together. There are some logistical issues with the vBulletin forums that don’t allow things to sync right with Discord so there will be a little maneuvering as we try to get mods and forum members any proper roles/tags they need on the Discord, but we can work through that stuff easily enough as people join.

Our general goal is to give people more options to interact with OS community members, whether that’s Discord, the forums, this newsletter, or improved apps. If people want to stick more to the forums, that’s cool. If people want to stick more to the Discord, that’s also cool. In my perfect world, we do a lot of BSing and day-to-day chatting on the Discord about games and sports, and then more of the “in-depth” discussions or hefty things like long slider breakdowns or analysis of gameplay end up on the forums so that can act as a sort of “best of” area for anything OS community related. That said, you all will ultimately shape how the ecosystem shakes out, I just want to give you spaces you like so you can have a good time with other folks in the community.

The same general rules will apply on the Discord as they do on the forums, and we’ve brought most of the forum categories to the Discord as well so there should not be too much confusion as you navigate around.

With the Operation Sports and Discord announcement now out there, it’s also worth mentioning our OS premium newsletter, which quietly launched a couple of weeks ago. Built off the Not Just Another Roster Update newsletter, it offers a mix of retrospectives, guides, interviews and deeper dives into the sports gaming world—covering both current and classic titles.

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Programmed2Kill

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06-24-2004, 02:41 AM

Re: Apparently the Mac/Francis deal is not quite a deal

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He should never be allowed to dictate how a trade goes down. It's opening up a new can of worms in the L.

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Francis did that by making the Grizz trade him to Houston hes just a big whiney baby.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">Well how would you feel if you lost for the first couple years in the league, then you got a new coach and started winning some games, then they want to trade you to a team that sucks! I don't blame Francis.

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It's a business. Get over it.

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">easy for you to say. You're not Steve Francis.

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And if I was Steve Franchise, I would be worrying where I would be traded...while chilling in the outside jacuzzi on the side of my 2.5 million dollar mansion!!!

Hey Stevie...suck it up and become a better player, home skillet

It's Good To Be...Steve Francis. Next on E!
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06-24-2004, 06:23 AM

Re: Apparently the Mac/Francis deal is not quite a deal

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Programmed2Kill said:
It's Good To Be...Steve Francis. Next on E!

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Why does Steve Francis get to dictate where he wants to go? What has he EVER done in this league to warrant that?
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06-24-2004, 06:23 AM

Re: Apparently the Mac/Francis deal is not quite a deal

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Programmed2Kill said:
It's Good To Be...Steve Francis. Next on E!

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Why does Steve Francis get to dictate where he wants to go? What has he EVER done in this league to warrant that?
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bigeastbumrush

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06-24-2004, 06:23 AM

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Programmed2Kill said:
It's Good To Be...Steve Francis. Next on E!

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Why does Steve Francis get to dictate where he wants to go? What has he EVER done in this league to warrant that?
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06-24-2004, 10:03 AM

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Programmed2Kill said:
It's Good To Be...Steve Francis. Next on E!

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Why does Steve Francis get to dictate where he wants to go? What has he EVER done in this league to warrant that?

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It's gonna start a bad trend of players doing the same thing. Not good.
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06-24-2004, 10:03 AM

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bigeastbumrush said:
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Programmed2Kill said:
It's Good To Be...Steve Francis. Next on E!

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Why does Steve Francis get to dictate where he wants to go? What has he EVER done in this league to warrant that?

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It's gonna start a bad trend of players doing the same thing. Not good.
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06-24-2004, 10:03 AM

Re: Apparently the Mac/Francis deal is not quite a deal

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bigeastbumrush said:
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Programmed2Kill said:
It's Good To Be...Steve Francis. Next on E!

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Why does Steve Francis get to dictate where he wants to go? What has he EVER done in this league to warrant that?

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It's gonna start a bad trend of players doing the same thing. Not good.
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PdiddyPop

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06-24-2004, 10:14 AM

Re: Apparently the Mac/Francis deal is not quite a deal

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bigeastbumrush said:
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Programmed2Kill said:
It's Good To Be...Steve Francis. Next on E!

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Why does Steve Francis get to dictate where he wants to go? What has he EVER done in this league to warrant that?

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agreed when he first got drafted he dictated where he wanted to go. now it turns out he doesnt mind going to orlando from what i heard on the NBA Draft special last night.

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06-24-2004, 10:14 AM

Re: Apparently the Mac/Francis deal is not quite a deal

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bigeastbumrush said:
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Programmed2Kill said:
It's Good To Be...Steve Francis. Next on E!

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Why does Steve Francis get to dictate where he wants to go? What has he EVER done in this league to warrant that?

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agreed when he first got drafted he dictated where he wanted to go. now it turns out he doesnt mind going to orlando from what i heard on the NBA Draft special last night.

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06-24-2004, 10:14 AM

Re: Apparently the Mac/Francis deal is not quite a deal

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bigeastbumrush said:
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Programmed2Kill said:
It's Good To Be...Steve Francis. Next on E!

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

Why does Steve Francis get to dictate where he wants to go? What has he EVER done in this league to warrant that?

<hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

agreed when he first got drafted he dictated where he wanted to go. now it turns out he doesnt mind going to orlando from what i heard on the NBA Draft special last night.

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06-24-2004, 11:50 AM

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If Orlando can turn around and deal for Ray Allen and Caron Butler like they're trying to, than this will go down. If not, I don't think they are going to stick themselves with Francis. Weisbrod said in one of the papers that they haven't ruled out keep McGrady. While I don't believe that is true, I do believe that they may wait until later in the summer to pull the trigger.
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06-24-2004, 11:50 AM

Re: Apparently the Mac/Francis deal is not quite a deal

If Orlando can turn around and deal for Ray Allen and Caron Butler like they're trying to, than this will go down. If not, I don't think they are going to stick themselves with Francis. Weisbrod said in one of the papers that they haven't ruled out keep McGrady. While I don't believe that is true, I do believe that they may wait until later in the summer to pull the trigger.
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06-24-2004, 11:50 AM

Re: Apparently the Mac/Francis deal is not quite a deal

If Orlando can turn around and deal for Ray Allen and Caron Butler like they're trying to, than this will go down. If not, I don't think they are going to stick themselves with Francis. Weisbrod said in one of the papers that they haven't ruled out keep McGrady. While I don't believe that is true, I do believe that they may wait until later in the summer to pull the trigger.
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06-24-2004, 12:47 PM

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Orlando Sentinel: The trade of Tracy McGrady to the Houston Rockets could end up bringing both Seattle all-star guard Ray Allen and Miami Heat small forward Caron Butler to Orlando.

Meanwhile, with interest in McGrady peaking and offers rolling in, Weisbrod said he will turn his attention to the Draft tonight and put a moratorium on T-Mac discussions.

"We're still weighing a lot of options with Tracy. He still could be here this season, or he could be traded," Weisbrod said. "If we do trade him, I don't think there's any chance of it happening before the Draft."

If the deal with Houston does go through, the Magic have talked with Seattle about a trade with Francis and Allen as the centerpiece.

The Magic have also talked to the Miami Heat about a trade that would send Mobley and forward Drew Gooden in exchange for Butler.

The Rockets and Pacers may be the two strongest bidders for McGrady's services.

"There are plenty of deals out there for Tracy. If we wanted to do a deal today, we could," Weisbrod said. "But we're certainly not going to rush anything. We're going about it as methodically as we can. There is no time pressure."

In anticipation of the Houston trade, the Magic are also talking to the Washington Wizards about dealing Francis on to them in exchange for point guard Gilbert Arenas and former No. 1 pick Kwame Brown.

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From RealGM... things are getting VERY interesting.

Originally posted by EWRMETS

Maybe the best post in OS's history. If you don't think Tony Romo is a Hall of Famer, you support al Qaeda.
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06-24-2004, 12:47 PM

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Orlando Sentinel: The trade of Tracy McGrady to the Houston Rockets could end up bringing both Seattle all-star guard Ray Allen and Miami Heat small forward Caron Butler to Orlando.

Meanwhile, with interest in McGrady peaking and offers rolling in, Weisbrod said he will turn his attention to the Draft tonight and put a moratorium on T-Mac discussions.

"We're still weighing a lot of options with Tracy. He still could be here this season, or he could be traded," Weisbrod said. "If we do trade him, I don't think there's any chance of it happening before the Draft."

If the deal with Houston does go through, the Magic have talked with Seattle about a trade with Francis and Allen as the centerpiece.

The Magic have also talked to the Miami Heat about a trade that would send Mobley and forward Drew Gooden in exchange for Butler.

The Rockets and Pacers may be the two strongest bidders for McGrady's services.

"There are plenty of deals out there for Tracy. If we wanted to do a deal today, we could," Weisbrod said. "But we're certainly not going to rush anything. We're going about it as methodically as we can. There is no time pressure."

In anticipation of the Houston trade, the Magic are also talking to the Washington Wizards about dealing Francis on to them in exchange for point guard Gilbert Arenas and former No. 1 pick Kwame Brown.

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From RealGM... things are getting VERY interesting.

Originally posted by EWRMETS

Maybe the best post in OS's history. If you don't think Tony Romo is a Hall of Famer, you support al Qaeda.
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