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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
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    #1

    Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1832195



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    Wednesday, June 30, 2004

    Associated Press

    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Orlando Magic general manager John Weisbrod believes the Magic will be a whole lot better without departed star Tracy McGrady.

    Weisbrod took some parting shots Wednesday at his former player, implying McGrady wasn't capable of leading a winning team.

    "It starts with how you define a superstar," Weisbrod said. "I think a superstar is defined by wins, by making the players around him better and by making the team better. On that part, my perception is a little different than most."

    Marking only the fourth time a defending scoring champion has ever been traded, McGrady was sent to the Houston Rockets in exchange for point guard Steve Francis, shooting guard Cuttino Mobley and forward Kelvin Cato on Tuesday. Orlando also parted with power forward Juwan Howard, and guards Tyronn Lue and Reece Gaines.

    McGrady was an All-Star in each of his four years in Orlando, averaging 28.1 points, and quickly became the Magic's most popular player. But his behavior during last season's 61-loss disaster convinced Weisbrod that McGrady was part of the problem.

    In McGrady's place are players who want to win.

    "We're here to fill voids the Magic know they have lacked in the last couple of seasons," said Francis, a three-time All-Star. "You're going to get a gutsy effort every single night from all three of us. There's no trying to be too cute or trying to be too cool basketball from us."

    Added Mobley: "I don't think we have a loser mentality at all."

    Francis said it was obvious the Magic lost heart last season after an early 19-game losing streak. It was during the slide that McGrady -- selected team captain in the offseason -- startled the organization when he openly discussed quitting.

    "You have to display a sense of urgency. I thought their players didn't do that," Francis said. "Once they got on a losing streak, it looked like they hung their heads."

    Weisbrod said that by the All-Star break, it was clear McGrady wanted out. When McGrady told team owner Rich DeVos two weeks ago he wanted to be traded to a contender, that made it easier for the Magic to part ways.

    "We just came to the conclusion that if he wanted to leave, we thought that could very well be best for our basketball team," Weisbrod said.

    McGrady can opt out of his seven-year, $93-million contract after next season, so it appeared he held leverage through the unspoken threat of his team receiving no compensation if he left. But Weisbrod refused to limit his talks to teams where McGrady wanted to play.

    "There were seven or eight teams that were perfectly comfortable trading for Tracy whether he wanted to go there or not, whether he would opt in or not," Weisbrod said. "So, we certainly weren't in any kind of corner."

    Last season, Francis averaged 16.6 points and Mobley 15.8 as Houston's starting backcourt. At times, they struggled against new coach Jeff Van Gundy's desire to make center Yao Ming the team's focus and both players saw their statistics drop from the previous season.

    "We were basically a half-court team," said Francis, who shot a career-low 40 percent last year. "You know we wanted to try to run, but it was tough. We didn't really work on running in practice enough for us to be real comfortable in the games with running."

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  • MagicBucsWsoxFan
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 4294

    #2
    Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

    Mostly that article is true if you look at it from the Orlando Magic teams point of view. I mean I really dont know how to comment on something like this, but you could tell there was definatly a lack of effort during and after that 19 game slide. Another thing, before the season ended and while we knew we were out of the playoffs and on our way to a horrible year, it became obvious to magic fans to check on McGrady's contract status, and ofcourse after ONE bad year of not making the playoffs it was talked about him not signing a new contract way before the media even mentioned anything and the possibly of him wanting to opting out, and look what happen. I know he says he didnt want to be traded, but do you really believe he wanted to stay in Orlando if he had an opt out claus this season?
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    • MagicBucsWsoxFan
      MVP
      • Mar 2003
      • 4294

      #3
      Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

      Mostly that article is true if you look at it from the Orlando Magic teams point of view. I mean I really dont know how to comment on something like this, but you could tell there was definatly a lack of effort during and after that 19 game slide. Another thing, before the season ended and while we knew we were out of the playoffs and on our way to a horrible year, it became obvious to magic fans to check on McGrady's contract status, and ofcourse after ONE bad year of not making the playoffs it was talked about him not signing a new contract way before the media even mentioned anything and the possibly of him wanting to opting out, and look what happen. I know he says he didnt want to be traded, but do you really believe he wanted to stay in Orlando if he had an opt out claus this season?
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      • MagicBucsWsoxFan
        MVP
        • Mar 2003
        • 4294

        #4
        Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

        Mostly that article is true if you look at it from the Orlando Magic teams point of view. I mean I really dont know how to comment on something like this, but you could tell there was definatly a lack of effort during and after that 19 game slide. Another thing, before the season ended and while we knew we were out of the playoffs and on our way to a horrible year, it became obvious to magic fans to check on McGrady's contract status, and ofcourse after ONE bad year of not making the playoffs it was talked about him not signing a new contract way before the media even mentioned anything and the possibly of him wanting to opting out, and look what happen. I know he says he didnt want to be traded, but do you really believe he wanted to stay in Orlando if he had an opt out claus this season?
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        • SPTO
          binging
          • Feb 2003
          • 68046

          #5
          Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

          If Francis believes in making a gutsy effort and changing the mentality of a team then he should've shut his mouth and went to Vancouver.

          Oh yeah as for Weisbrod I guess Dominique Wilkins wasn't a superstar because the Hawks lost to the Celts when they were good. A lot of people would agree with me that Wilkins was one of the best superstars of the 80s and should be a HOF'er something I can't say for Francis.
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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #6
            Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

            If Francis believes in making a gutsy effort and changing the mentality of a team then he should've shut his mouth and went to Vancouver.

            Oh yeah as for Weisbrod I guess Dominique Wilkins wasn't a superstar because the Hawks lost to the Celts when they were good. A lot of people would agree with me that Wilkins was one of the best superstars of the 80s and should be a HOF'er something I can't say for Francis.
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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #7
              Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

              If Francis believes in making a gutsy effort and changing the mentality of a team then he should've shut his mouth and went to Vancouver.

              Oh yeah as for Weisbrod I guess Dominique Wilkins wasn't a superstar because the Hawks lost to the Celts when they were good. A lot of people would agree with me that Wilkins was one of the best superstars of the 80s and should be a HOF'er something I can't say for Francis.
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              • 23
                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #8
                Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

                I think these guys need to move on. The more Hockeyman runs his mouth, the more it looks like he wanted this all along. All of a sudden Francis is taking shots at Tmac.

                They need to move on. It's over.

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #9
                  Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

                  I think these guys need to move on. The more Hockeyman runs his mouth, the more it looks like he wanted this all along. All of a sudden Francis is taking shots at Tmac.

                  They need to move on. It's over.

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #10
                    Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

                    I think these guys need to move on. The more Hockeyman runs his mouth, the more it looks like he wanted this all along. All of a sudden Francis is taking shots at Tmac.

                    They need to move on. It's over.

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                    • MagicBucsWsoxFan
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                      • Mar 2003
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                      #11
                      Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

                      Ofcourse Wilkins should be a HOF'er and was a star in the 80's. Im not a Francis fan boy and I can careless about his HAF status, plus its a little to early to judge that type of thing. I just wish all the critics would just let him come in this year see what he does and how he acts then start judging. Atleast give the guy a chance.
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                      • MagicBucsWsoxFan
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                        #12
                        Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

                        Ofcourse Wilkins should be a HOF'er and was a star in the 80's. Im not a Francis fan boy and I can careless about his HAF status, plus its a little to early to judge that type of thing. I just wish all the critics would just let him come in this year see what he does and how he acts then start judging. Atleast give the guy a chance.
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                        • MagicBucsWsoxFan
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                          #13
                          Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

                          Ofcourse Wilkins should be a HOF'er and was a star in the 80's. Im not a Francis fan boy and I can careless about his HAF status, plus its a little to early to judge that type of thing. I just wish all the critics would just let him come in this year see what he does and how he acts then start judging. Atleast give the guy a chance.
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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
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                            #14
                            Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

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                            MagicBucsWsoxFan said:
                            Ofcourse Wilkins should be a HOF'er and was a star in the 80's. Im not a Francis fan boy and I can careless about his HAF status, plus its a little to early to judge that type of thing. I just wish all the critics would just let him come in this year see what he does and how he acts then start judging. Atleast give the guy a chance.

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                            Is that what you want. Tell him to stop talking mess before he plays a game if he wants the same respect.

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                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #15
                              Re: Francis and Weisbrod take shots at Tmac

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              MagicBucsWsoxFan said:
                              Ofcourse Wilkins should be a HOF'er and was a star in the 80's. Im not a Francis fan boy and I can careless about his HAF status, plus its a little to early to judge that type of thing. I just wish all the critics would just let him come in this year see what he does and how he acts then start judging. Atleast give the guy a chance.

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">





                              Is that what you want. Tell him to stop talking mess before he plays a game if he wants the same respect.

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