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  • TallTell
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    • May 2004
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    #31
    Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

    Originally posted by wtferrell
    TallTell, bro, you are new here so I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt for the next few days, but you need to get off of Carmelo's sack dude. Have you been watching the games? He bitches and complains to the media, doesn't make his teammates better, tries to leave after the game is over instead of going to the center of the floor like the rest of the players to show respect to the fans, and does nothing but shoot, yet he gets more PT than a guy who has played more consistently than anyone out there for Team USA? He always brings the energy, enthusiasm, and is always cheering for the team. He is a bonafide leader while out on the court, and when he is out there, we are better on Offense and Defense because he brings the intensity.

    This game was 110% Larry Brown's fault. You can't blame Marbury, Jefferson, Duncan, nobody, but Larry Brown. If I am Marbury, and am shooting 2/12, yet I'm not getting taken out, do you think I am gonna stop shooting? Heck no. Larry Brown is NOT A COACH.

    P2K, better watch out though, Melo and his might Melomen come in packs, so you never know when another one might pop up :y4:
    Actually, I'm not new here.

    Anyway, I wouldn't take Melo's side if so many of you weren't so quick to crusify him. Especially considering many of you are the same people that believe Lebron James is the 2nd best player on Team USA. Cluelessness hurts my head, so I try to fix it.

    "Melo and his might Melomen come in packs"..............................OH!!

    Hype is a helluva drug!!

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    • WTF
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      #32
      Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

      Check under your name, and look at "Join Date". Does that not say May of 2004? That would mean that you are new here if I am not mistaken.

      We are not crusifying Melo on here. If you would open up just a tad, you would see his attitude that he has brought to this tournament, and see that he does not belong with this team. This thread is not about Carmelo Anthony. This thread is about Coach (and I use that term loosely) Brown. We aren't saying Lebron James is the 2nd best player on team usa. He is playing the second best on the team. Doesn't mean he is better than AI, Marion, etc, however he is Playing the second best on the team when he is in the game. What does that mean, It means he is playing consistently night in and night out. When every sports reporter has been crusifying Brown for not playing Lebron, that surely means something.

      And were you implying that I am clueless?
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      • WTF
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        #33
        Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

        Check under your name, and look at "Join Date". Does that not say May of 2004? That would mean that you are new here if I am not mistaken.

        We are not crusifying Melo on here. If you would open up just a tad, you would see his attitude that he has brought to this tournament, and see that he does not belong with this team. This thread is not about Carmelo Anthony. This thread is about Coach (and I use that term loosely) Brown. We aren't saying Lebron James is the 2nd best player on team usa. He is playing the second best on the team. Doesn't mean he is better than AI, Marion, etc, however he is Playing the second best on the team when he is in the game. What does that mean, It means he is playing consistently night in and night out. When every sports reporter has been crusifying Brown for not playing Lebron, that surely means something.

        And were you implying that I am clueless?
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        • TallTell
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          #34
          Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

          Originally posted by wtferrell
          Check under your name, and look at "Join Date". Does that not say May of 2004? That would mean that you are new here if I am not mistaken.

          Actually, I'm not new..

          We are not crusifying Melo on here. If you would open up just a tad, you would see his attitude that he has brought to this tournament, and see that he does not belong with this team. This thread is not about Carmelo Anthony. This thread is about Coach (and I use that term loosely) Brown. We aren't saying Lebron James is the 2nd best player on team usa. He is playing the second best on the team.

          You're just wrong with that statment. Simple as that.


          Doesn't mean he is better than AI, Marion, etc, however he is Playing the second best on the team when he is in the game. What does that mean, It means he is playing consistently night in and night out. When every sports reporter has been crusifying Brown for not playing Lebron, that surely means something.

          That means absolutely nothing. Like I said, hype is a helluva drug. Make some sense. You question a coach, Larry Brown, who's won a championship on both the NBA and college level, and you unknowingly question Greg Popovich, who also won a championship in the NBA. These people get paid big money to do what they're good at. They aren't blinded by favortism like some of you guys. They're up close and personal during game time. It's laughable how some of you guys think you could do a better job, and that's including the media. Thank goodness good coaches don't give into such utter crap.

          And were you implying that I am clueless?

          In regards to what's best for Team USA. Yes I am.

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          • TallTell
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            #35
            Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

            Originally posted by wtferrell
            Check under your name, and look at "Join Date". Does that not say May of 2004? That would mean that you are new here if I am not mistaken.

            Actually, I'm not new..

            We are not crusifying Melo on here. If you would open up just a tad, you would see his attitude that he has brought to this tournament, and see that he does not belong with this team. This thread is not about Carmelo Anthony. This thread is about Coach (and I use that term loosely) Brown. We aren't saying Lebron James is the 2nd best player on team usa. He is playing the second best on the team.

            You're just wrong with that statment. Simple as that.


            Doesn't mean he is better than AI, Marion, etc, however he is Playing the second best on the team when he is in the game. What does that mean, It means he is playing consistently night in and night out. When every sports reporter has been crusifying Brown for not playing Lebron, that surely means something.

            That means absolutely nothing. Like I said, hype is a helluva drug. Make some sense. You question a coach, Larry Brown, who's won a championship on both the NBA and college level, and you unknowingly question Greg Popovich, who also won a championship in the NBA. These people get paid big money to do what they're good at. They aren't blinded by favortism like some of you guys. They're up close and personal during game time. It's laughable how some of you guys think you could do a better job, and that's including the media. Thank goodness good coaches don't give into such utter crap.

            And were you implying that I am clueless?

            In regards to what's best for Team USA. Yes I am.

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            • WTF
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              #36
              Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

              Where did I question Popovich? Popovich is a great coach, but insiders have said, Brown doesn't pay a bit of attention to what he thinks. I said in another thread that if Brown would listen to Pop, they would be a better team.

              And since I am clueless regarding Team USA, as well as everyone else on here that thinks the same way I do, please elaborate on what is best for Team USA... To call me clueless, when you haven't brought anything to the conversation thus far, or any insight from your point of view?

              It doesn't matter if Coach Brown has won a NBA championship, or a NCAA title. Does that make him a coach? A coach is taking some players, and utilizing them to the best of their abilities, which Brown is not doing.

              Telling me I am wrong with a statement, simple as that? I am trying to spark a conversation here. Tell me what you think, your opinion and viewpoint on the subject. You can't tell me I am wrong, without backing up your statement.

              When the younger guys for Team USA were on the floor, we were up by 8-12 points. Larry Brown pulls the guys and puts in his "picks", which are the veteran players. They lose the lead, and Brown still lets them run wild out there. I am not coming blindly into this conversation, but thus far, you are not supporting any of your statements, which leads me to believe, you haven't got any insight to add, except telling me that I am wrong.

              OS is a place to come and have insightful conversations, so instead of just telling me I am wrong, back up your statements and lets raise the intellectual level of this conversation.
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              • WTF
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                #37
                Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

                Where did I question Popovich? Popovich is a great coach, but insiders have said, Brown doesn't pay a bit of attention to what he thinks. I said in another thread that if Brown would listen to Pop, they would be a better team.

                And since I am clueless regarding Team USA, as well as everyone else on here that thinks the same way I do, please elaborate on what is best for Team USA... To call me clueless, when you haven't brought anything to the conversation thus far, or any insight from your point of view?

                It doesn't matter if Coach Brown has won a NBA championship, or a NCAA title. Does that make him a coach? A coach is taking some players, and utilizing them to the best of their abilities, which Brown is not doing.

                Telling me I am wrong with a statement, simple as that? I am trying to spark a conversation here. Tell me what you think, your opinion and viewpoint on the subject. You can't tell me I am wrong, without backing up your statement.

                When the younger guys for Team USA were on the floor, we were up by 8-12 points. Larry Brown pulls the guys and puts in his "picks", which are the veteran players. They lose the lead, and Brown still lets them run wild out there. I am not coming blindly into this conversation, but thus far, you are not supporting any of your statements, which leads me to believe, you haven't got any insight to add, except telling me that I am wrong.

                OS is a place to come and have insightful conversations, so instead of just telling me I am wrong, back up your statements and lets raise the intellectual level of this conversation.
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                • Herbsinator
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                  #38
                  Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

                  How exactly are you not new here? Because your join date says may 2004 and you only have 150 posts...am i missing something?

                  Lebron actually plays defense and wants to win, with the way Melo is playing it seems like he doesn't want to do either...so my question is who would you rather have out there playing, the guy who tries and plays D or the guy who shoots everytime he touches the ball?

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                  • Herbsinator
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                    #39
                    Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

                    How exactly are you not new here? Because your join date says may 2004 and you only have 150 posts...am i missing something?

                    Lebron actually plays defense and wants to win, with the way Melo is playing it seems like he doesn't want to do either...so my question is who would you rather have out there playing, the guy who tries and plays D or the guy who shoots everytime he touches the ball?

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                    • WTF
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                      #40
                      Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

                      Well, I watched the game via Tivo again, and when Melo was out there, he didn't know what to do. I don't know if he isn't catching on to the offense or what, but Duncan and Iverson were both trying to tell him where to go every time down the floor. Melo is one heck of a player when he wants to play, but I just don't know what his problem is during the olympics...

                      The team will hopefully rebound tomorrow morning against Angola. We'll just have to see.
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                        Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

                        Well, I watched the game via Tivo again, and when Melo was out there, he didn't know what to do. I don't know if he isn't catching on to the offense or what, but Duncan and Iverson were both trying to tell him where to go every time down the floor. Melo is one heck of a player when he wants to play, but I just don't know what his problem is during the olympics...

                        The team will hopefully rebound tomorrow morning against Angola. We'll just have to see.
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                        • TallTell
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                          #42
                          Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

                          Originally posted by wtferrell
                          Where did I question Popovich? Popovich is a great coach, but insiders have said, Brown doesn't pay a bit of attention to what he thinks. I said in another thread that if Brown would listen to Pop, they would be a better team.

                          The insiders? HA

                          And since I am clueless regarding Team USA, as well as everyone else on here that thinks the same way I do, please elaborate on what is best for Team USA... To call me clueless, when you haven't brought anything to the conversation thus far, or any insight from your point of view?

                          I haven't the slightest clue. And I'm ok with that. But I guarantee that Brown and Pop know a helluva lot more about what's best for Team USA than we do.

                          It doesn't matter if Coach Brown has won a NBA championship, or a NCAA title. Does that make him a coach? A coach is taking some players, and utilizing them to the best of their abilities, which Brown is not doing.

                          Telling me I am wrong with a statement, simple as that? I am trying to spark a conversation here. Tell me what you think, your opinion and viewpoint on the subject. You can't tell me I am wrong, without backing up your statement.

                          Your just wrong. You're obviously a Lebron fan, so it's not worth me trying to shed some light.

                          When the younger guys for Team USA were on the floor, we were up by 8-12 points. Larry Brown pulls the guys and puts in his "picks", which are the veteran players. They lose the lead, and Brown still lets them run wild out there. I am not coming blindly into this conversation, but thus far, you are not supporting any of your statements, which leads me to believe, you haven't got any insight to add, except telling me that I am wrong.

                          OS is a place to come and have insightful conversations, so instead of just telling me I am wrong, back up your statements and lets raise the intellectual level of this conversation.

                          Intelligence went out the window when you insinuated that you would do a better job with Team USA than Brown and Pop. I'm sorry, I just don't believe you.

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                          • TallTell
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                            #43
                            Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

                            Originally posted by wtferrell
                            Where did I question Popovich? Popovich is a great coach, but insiders have said, Brown doesn't pay a bit of attention to what he thinks. I said in another thread that if Brown would listen to Pop, they would be a better team.

                            The insiders? HA

                            And since I am clueless regarding Team USA, as well as everyone else on here that thinks the same way I do, please elaborate on what is best for Team USA... To call me clueless, when you haven't brought anything to the conversation thus far, or any insight from your point of view?

                            I haven't the slightest clue. And I'm ok with that. But I guarantee that Brown and Pop know a helluva lot more about what's best for Team USA than we do.

                            It doesn't matter if Coach Brown has won a NBA championship, or a NCAA title. Does that make him a coach? A coach is taking some players, and utilizing them to the best of their abilities, which Brown is not doing.

                            Telling me I am wrong with a statement, simple as that? I am trying to spark a conversation here. Tell me what you think, your opinion and viewpoint on the subject. You can't tell me I am wrong, without backing up your statement.

                            Your just wrong. You're obviously a Lebron fan, so it's not worth me trying to shed some light.

                            When the younger guys for Team USA were on the floor, we were up by 8-12 points. Larry Brown pulls the guys and puts in his "picks", which are the veteran players. They lose the lead, and Brown still lets them run wild out there. I am not coming blindly into this conversation, but thus far, you are not supporting any of your statements, which leads me to believe, you haven't got any insight to add, except telling me that I am wrong.

                            OS is a place to come and have insightful conversations, so instead of just telling me I am wrong, back up your statements and lets raise the intellectual level of this conversation.

                            Intelligence went out the window when you insinuated that you would do a better job with Team USA than Brown and Pop. I'm sorry, I just don't believe you.

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                              Okay, I give up here. I am trying to spark an intelligent conversation, but I get this very clever and well thought out one line- no substance answers back from you.

                              Which is fine. I want to talk team USA, but I am basically talking to myself. I have quite a bit more to say, but I am not going to waste the time so you can say, "Your just wrong." All I am saying is, tell me what you think. I am not saying you are wrong, I am not saying anyone else is wrong. I just want you to provide something other than, "You are wrong". Intelligence went out the window when you posted in this thread.

                              Do you know me? Do you know where I came from, and any experience that I have with the sport? If not, you may want to stop, step away from the keyboard, so you can't make yourself look like a fool. I ask you, what is your opinion? You reply,

                              "I haven't the slightest clue. And I'm ok with that. But I guarantee that Brown and Pop know a helluva lot more about what's best for Team USA than we do."

                              In that, you are partly correct. The only part of that statement that I agree with is that you haven't the slightest clue. Popovich knows what is best for the team. He has said it in numerous articles. However, Brown has a strict system that he won't disrupt, even if it is better for the team.

                              And yes, I am a Lebron Fan. I pull for any athlete who cares more about winning than personal statistics, and comes to play the game the way it is meant to be played. Iverson and Duncan has praised Lebron after each and every game. Iverson has told Brown to play Lebron because he brings what the team needs.

                              And next time, if you don't want to talk basketball or Team USA, please do not reply to any of my posts. You waste my time, as well as the time of the rest of the boardmembers. This is a place to have insightful conversations, not to tell me I am wrong. Especially when you don't have any input that would add to the conversation.

                              At least the guy who posted before you actually had something to say. And, lo and behold, he agreed with me. As do all of the other members who have posted in this thread. You however, in a childish way continue to call me out and tell me I'm wrong, without providing any substance, or providing a viewpoint which I am starting to believe you don't have.

                              Of course normally Carmelo and his merry Melomen don't have anything to say worth listening to.
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                              • WTF
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                                #45
                                Re: In my opinion, Coach Brown partly to blame

                                Okay, I give up here. I am trying to spark an intelligent conversation, but I get this very clever and well thought out one line- no substance answers back from you.

                                Which is fine. I want to talk team USA, but I am basically talking to myself. I have quite a bit more to say, but I am not going to waste the time so you can say, "Your just wrong." All I am saying is, tell me what you think. I am not saying you are wrong, I am not saying anyone else is wrong. I just want you to provide something other than, "You are wrong". Intelligence went out the window when you posted in this thread.

                                Do you know me? Do you know where I came from, and any experience that I have with the sport? If not, you may want to stop, step away from the keyboard, so you can't make yourself look like a fool. I ask you, what is your opinion? You reply,

                                "I haven't the slightest clue. And I'm ok with that. But I guarantee that Brown and Pop know a helluva lot more about what's best for Team USA than we do."

                                In that, you are partly correct. The only part of that statement that I agree with is that you haven't the slightest clue. Popovich knows what is best for the team. He has said it in numerous articles. However, Brown has a strict system that he won't disrupt, even if it is better for the team.

                                And yes, I am a Lebron Fan. I pull for any athlete who cares more about winning than personal statistics, and comes to play the game the way it is meant to be played. Iverson and Duncan has praised Lebron after each and every game. Iverson has told Brown to play Lebron because he brings what the team needs.

                                And next time, if you don't want to talk basketball or Team USA, please do not reply to any of my posts. You waste my time, as well as the time of the rest of the boardmembers. This is a place to have insightful conversations, not to tell me I am wrong. Especially when you don't have any input that would add to the conversation.

                                At least the guy who posted before you actually had something to say. And, lo and behold, he agreed with me. As do all of the other members who have posted in this thread. You however, in a childish way continue to call me out and tell me I'm wrong, without providing any substance, or providing a viewpoint which I am starting to believe you don't have.

                                Of course normally Carmelo and his merry Melomen don't have anything to say worth listening to.
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