Eastern Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

[ojandpizza]

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Yea that always amazed me how chicago would get no empathy, yet when lebron lost in the finals half the world was crying "lebron had no help". Dont get me wrong i understand the circustances for both teams, and i aint exactly saying people shouldve been crying and sending cookies to chicago, but still no **** were given when chicago was hurt lol.

Why should there have been? I don't understand his argument.. What would they say? "Noah just can't get it done"?? Everyone knows Chicago didn't have a great shot without Rose, there was nothing more or less that needed to be said about it.


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[OkayC]

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Why should there have been? I don't understand his argument.. What would they say? "Noah just can't get it done"?? Everyone knows Chicago didn't have a great shot without Rose, there was nothing more or less that needed to be said about it.


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first i dont wanna make a convo out of this cuz its not really important. But my point is other teams will have people making a moutain of excuses for them and why they didnt win, if they lose in the playoffs. yet people didnt do it for chicago. again not saying people should, im just saying that its funny how some teams get excuses made for them, and others dont. it kinda goes back to the chris paul convo we had the other day, bout how some players get a pass and others dont.

[JODYE]

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Lol @ the letter thing Pack. Yeah it was going to take time if they were going to be trotting out Tyler Zeller and Alonzo Gee 20-25 mins a night.

You know damn well it was Championship or bust this year once they acquired Love, Smith, Shump and Mozgov. Come on now man. He just didn't want a repeat of Miami where he is out there proclaiming 8-9 championships and they don't win anything right away.

[alabamarob]

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Brooklyn has made a good showing, but we gonna close them out tonight. There is no reason for us to loose in Brooklyn 3 times.

[King_B_Mack]

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Considering you had he Bulls winning before Love even got hurt, surprising to hear....but if you feel that way, cool. I know I would definitely have concerns.

As far as the other stuff....all I care about is who advances....what people on forums want to debate about regarding how legit it was means 0 to me.....that's just me though...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I would be just fine with it and there aren't any questions. But accept the fact that they "just aren't that good?" Or as if it's time to blow the team up is what I should be looking at because LeBron more than likely went nuclear on them? Nah, not gonna be on panic attack mode unless they get swept or lose in 5 again.


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[King_B_Mack]

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Brooklyn has made a good showing, but we gonna close them out tonight. There is no reason for us to loose in Brooklyn 3 times.

I'm just saying, I'm pulling for 7 lol


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[ojandpizza]

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first i dont wanna make a convo out of this cuz its not really important. But my point is other teams will have people making a moutain of excuses for them and why they didnt win, if they lose in the playoffs. yet people didnt do it for chicago. again not saying people should, im just saying that its funny how some teams get excuses made for them, and others dont. it kinda goes back to the chris paul convo we had the other day, bout how some players get a pass and others dont.

That's because nobody is going to hate on Chicago not winning without their best player.. That's like hating on Cleveland/Miami if LeBron would have been injured. There wasn't really any excuse to make honestly..

It's like LeBron his first go around in Cleveland.. I'm one of the biggest LeBron fans I know and even I never expected those teams to win a championship. I knew they could make some noise, and if they played absolutely flawless they had a slim outside shot, but I never expected that group to win it all I always felt they were overachieving as is.

Therefor when you had a cheap argument like "LeBron can't win a ring" it was easy to point out that his team just wasn't that great. Better teams were beating him.

Better teams were beating Chicago with Rose out, but nobody else on that team is good enough to say "Deng just can't win a ring" or "Noah just can't win a ring".. I guess I'm just misunderstanding the convo to an extent, because I don't really recall anyone thinking Chicago should have accomplished anything outside of a first or second round exit.. There was never any sort of excuse or explanation necessary, just an unspoken realization that they wouldn't win without their best player.


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[OSUFan_88]

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OSU was just in here during game 4 talking about the Cavs not needing Love to beat the Bulls, but now if the Bulls can't beat an injured Cavs team it's time to accept they just aren't that good?

I would agree with that statement, because really, the Cavaliers should still be the best team in the East with or without Love. LeBron and Kyrie are two of the best players in the NBA and the rest of the team has talent on it.

If the Cavaliers don't beat the Bulls this series, I would say it's because the Cavaliers bench isn't deep enough and the team just wasn't good enough.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Eastern Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

Lol @ the letter thing Pack. Yeah it was going to take time if they were going to be trotting out Tyler Zeller and Alonzo Gee 20-25 mins a night.

You know damn well it was Championship or bust this year once they acquired Love, Smith, Shump and Mozgov. Come on now man. He just didn't want a repeat of Miami where he is out there proclaiming 8-9 championships and they don't win anything right away.

My point is I didn't expect them to win it all this year regardless if they made any moves or not and that I was willing to give them a pass this year if they didn't win it all in their first year. We ALL sit here and talk about how teams need to "develop chemistry together" and not try to "buy their way to a championship" and they should have patience, which you can still have while still winning at the same time.

In short, I'm not gonna **** on them for not winning it all right away.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Eastern Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

Brooklyn has made a good showing, but we gonna close them out tonight. There is no reason for us to loose in Brooklyn 3 times.

There was no reason for ya'll to lose to us twice according you, yet that's what happened. And it ain't like ya'll have been dominating us this whole series. I thought this series would be over in 5 so everything after that is gravy for me.

We've been down this road before, being down 3-2 and Game 6 at home. Ask Majingir if he still remembers that.

[Vni]

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Just get it over with so we can move on.

[JODYE]

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My point is I didn't expect them to win it all this year regardless if they made any moves or not and that I was willing to give them a pass this year if they didn't win it all in their first year. We ALL sit here and talk about how teams need to "develop chemistry together" and not try to "buy their way to a championship" and they should have patience, which you can still have while still winning at the same time.

In short, I'm not gonna **** on them for not winning it all right away.

Well I mean, I'm not going to **** on them either, but you don't just luck into throwing together some hodgepodge roster that has 3 Top 20 players on it and not create some expectation or aspirations of winning a championship, regardless of how long they have been together.

Whether they are given a pass or not is unrelated to what their expectations are.

We're probably arguing semantics but I just can't get behind the notion that any team with three Top 20 players isn't expecting to win a championship.

[ojandpizza]

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Well I mean, I'm not going to **** on them either, but you don't just luck into throwing together some hodgepodge roster that has 3 Top 20 players on it and not create some expectation or aspirations of winning a championship, regardless of how long they have been together.

Whether they are given a pass or not is unrelated to what their expectations are.

We're probably arguing semantics but I just can't get behind the notion that any team with three Top 20 players isn't expecting to win a championship.

I think any playoff team believes they are expected to push for a championship.. I doubt they just plan on losing or accept that losing will happen. I doubt LeBron, teammates, fans or anyone else expects to compete for anything less than a ring, but he's been around long enough to know its not that easy and he's already facing a better team than his in just round 2. He knows that a first time team is realistically going to have struggles and have to overachieve for shot to win it all, but I really doubt he believes they won't be competing at championship level.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

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No, I expect them to win a championship. Just not this year, which again, has been my point and the reason why I brought that up in the first place. I'm thinking long term for them moreso than I am short term.

[roadman]

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2 Kings and 13, just wanted your opinion.

I missed this last night, but do you think Giannis is the only one that deserves to be suspended.

For my eyes, it looks like Dunleavy squared and unloaded.

Obviously, what Giannis did was young and dumb and whatever Dunleavy receives, if he does, Giannis should get double.

First time I've seen it from this angle.

Not trying to start anything.

Others can chime in too.
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