Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

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  • Jmb4life
    Rookie
    • Sep 2006
    • 201

    #646
    Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by redsrule
    The job he did was phenomenal? He got fired because he held back that team a ton. Kerr as a rookie coach has done a much better job then Jackson ever did.

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    No. He was fired because he and management didn't see eye to eye. No reason to believe this team couldn't achieve this same success if Mark Jackson was still coaching.
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    • Hockeynut99
      MVP
      • Jan 2013
      • 1328

      #647
      Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Jmb4life
      No. He was fired because he and management didn't see eye to eye. No reason to believe this team couldn't achieve this same success if Mark Jackson was still coaching.
      Lol yeah they saw him as a great motivating speaker and not a X's and O's coach.

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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #648
        Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

        I missed some great games tonight.
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        • jeebs9
          Fear is the Unknown
          • Oct 2008
          • 47568

          #649
          Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread


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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #650
            Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by 23
            Oh lord not this again
            Gotta love the false narratives that people keep coming up with for the guy.
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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #651
              Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28962

                #652
                Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                The most amazing part of that comeback was that GSW still didn't shoot the ball that well. 10 friggin offensive boards in the 4th quarter. Insane. That smallball destroyed NO.
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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #653
                  Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ehh
                  The most amazing part of that comeback was that GSW still didn't shoot the ball that well. 10 friggin offensive boards in the 4th quarter. Insane. That smallball destroyed NO.
                  Why do teams go away from their strengths in the playoffs?

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                  • JODYE
                    JB4MVP
                    • May 2012
                    • 4834

                    #654
                    Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                    Boxing out destroyed NO. The lineup had nothing to with their horrendous effort on the glass the last 10 mins of regulation and then again in OT.

                    That and the fact that Ryan Anderson appeared to be shooting into a hoop the size of the Gulf of Mexico and somehow never gets another touch down the stretch.
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                    • ehh
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 28962

                      #655
                      Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by CMH
                      Why do teams go away from their strengths in the playoffs?

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                      Amazing, plus The Brow should have gotten so many more touches down the stretch. I felt like I was watching Wisconsin ignore Frank Kaminsky all over again.

                      Originally posted by 13
                      Boxing out destroyed NO. The lineup had nothing to with their horrendous effort on the glass the last 10 mins of regulation and then again in OT.

                      That and the fact that Ryan Anderson appeared to be shooting into a hoop the size of the Gulf of Mexico and somehow never gets another touch down the stretch.
                      The lineup did have an impact because you're removing your decent rebounders outside of The Brow. Besides that though, GSW's smallball ball movement is so insane and forces so many rotations that it's nearly impossible to box out. That's one of the whole concepts of that level of movement, if the defense is constantly scrambling, rotating and helping it makes it REALLY difficult to box out. Gordon just got destroyed, he looked so lost on the defensive end of the floor and on the boards. The lineup NO had on the floor, it's just unrealistic to expect them to rebound with that GSW lineup. Gordon isn't going to box out those dudes. Barnes, Iggy and Green are better mid-sized rebounders than anyone NO can throw on the court. Did Asik even play in the 4th quarter? And kudos to Steve Smith, he called it as soon as Monty Williams agreed to match up with GSW's small lineup, "I'm not sure you want to play smallball with the Warriors".

                      Re: Anderson - my favorite part of the 4th quarter was when he hit those two crazy shots and on the following possession Evans decides to go 1-on-3 into the lane and throw up some garbage instead of feeding the hot hand. Basketball IQ, man...
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                      • JODYE
                        JB4MVP
                        • May 2012
                        • 4834

                        #656
                        Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                        I'm not saying it didn't have some effect, although it more so changed the game on the offensive end, but in regards to rebounding, I don't buy it.

                        It's a matter of effort at that point. Golden State played that same lineup earlier in the game and they netted negative by a significant margin and New Orleans up until that 4th quarter had actually out rebounded Golden State.

                        One of the most telling images was on a FT attempt late in the 4th (can't remember who was shooting) and after the miss Green had 3 guys pulling on him and his jersey and he somehow still got to the ball on the baseline. Ended up being out of bounds but that's what it takes at the end of games. Effort. Are Barnes, Iggy and Green good rebounders? Sure, but not the tune of producing 11-12 offensive rebounds in one quarter. Guys were missing box outs, or not boxing out at all and letting Barnes and Green get free runs at the hoop. That's not the lineup to me, that's just wanting it more than the other team IMO. Just another classic case of one team trying not to lose the game, and another playing their *** off to win.

                        Also, can we please end the volleyball tip into the backcourt? I'm so tired of seeing that rewarded. In any other scenario, that would be a backcourt violation, but because it's on a rebound you can smack into the stands on the other side of the floor and not be penalized for it.
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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #657
                          Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                          The rebounding was lack of effort but that lineup was a net negative.

                          Too many times they got caught standing there watching gs shoot and rhen grab the long boardover and again.

                          Pondexter wasnt doing crap to help nor was Holliday but he kept them in.

                          Where was Cole?

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                          • ojandpizza
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 29807

                            #658
                            Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                            In theory the lineup change wasn't really a bad move.. He had the lead and went with his defensive guys and top free throws shooters.. It backfired, so in hindsight it's easy to complain about.. But logically it wasn't a bad move, his guys just didn't perform when they needed to IMO.


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                            • King_B_Mack
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 24450

                              #659
                              Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                              In the NFL they'd call that playing not to lose as opposed to playing to win. Teams tend to lose every time they go into playing not to lose mode.

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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #660
                                Re: Western Conference Playoffs - 1st Round Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                                In theory the lineup change wasn't really a bad move.. He had the lead and went with his defensive guys and top free throws shooters.. It backfired, so in hindsight it's easy to complain about.. But logically it wasn't a bad move, his guys just didn't perform when they needed to IMO.


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                                But they blew a 20 point lead in the 4th and lost.

                                It WAS that bad

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